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Interview recorded - 31st of October, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Michael Pento. Michael is the President & Founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies. During our conversation we spoke about his outlook for the economy and markets, the FED expanding their balance sheet, what this means for the 3 bubbles, Financial repression, whether markets will go higher and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:15 - Outlook on the economy and markets2:52 - FED expanding balance sheet7:42 - Debt bubble9:35 - Increase income15:40 - Financial repression18:15 - Markets going high20:28 - One message to takeaway?Michael Pento serves as the President and Founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies (PPS). PPS is a Registered Investment Advisory Firm (RIA) that operates like an actively managed fund without all the expenses. The Model Portfolio uses a proprietary macroeconomic model to determine when and how to invest across an inflation/deflation and economic cycle spectrum. The 20-component model is used to determine the two most important factors when it comes to successful investing: the second derivatives of growth and inflation.Michael Pento - Website - https://pentoport.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/michaelpento?lang=enLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-pento-a1882917b/WTFinance Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatsea

Interview recorded - 27th of October, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Bob Elliott. Bob is the Co-Founder & CIO of Unlimited Funds. During our conversation we spoke about his outlook on the economy, the AI boom, why households are struggling, Stagflation, markets and more. I hope you enjoy! 0:00 - Introduction0:45 - Outlook on the economy?3:45 - AI boom6:50 - Employment10:18 - Economic data not making sense11:56 - Government shutdown15:36 - Stagflation17:17 - FED actions19:20 - US the strongest economy?20:30 - What does this mean for markets?24:40 - Bond yields26:00 - Losing control of bond market28:57 - Other assets?30:54 - One message to takeaway?Bob Elliott is the Co-Founder, CEO & CIO of Unlimited, which uses machine learning to create index replication ETFs of 2&20 style alternative investments like hedge funds, venture capital & private equity. Prior to founding Unlimited, Bob was a Senior Investment Executive at Bridgewater Associates where he served on the Investment Committee (G7) and created investment strategies across equities, fixed income, credit, exchange rates, and commodities, including many used in the flagship Pure Alpha Fund. He also built and led Ray Dalio’s personal investment research team for almost a decade. He’s the author of hundreds of Bridgewater’s widely read Daily Observations and directly counselled some of the world’s foremost policy makers and institutional investor on economic and investing issues. Bob has also served as an advisor and executive at several startups including CircleUp, an investment company focused on early-stage consumer brands. There he revamped the investment strategy for the company’s $150mln venture funds leveraging big data approaches to improve decision making. He was also the co-founder of GiveWell, a startup charity evaluator which now directs more than $500mln in annual contributions. Bob holds a BA in History and Science from Harvard. Bob Elliott - Website - https://www.unlimitedfunds.com/X - https://twitter.com/bobeunlimited?s=21&t=bEWfVJjh6KcziPA0zpyEPALinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ttoillebobWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4X - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Michael Howell, Founder and Managing Director of CrossBorder Capital, offers deep insights into global liquidity cycles. He discusses how current liquidity conditions are approaching a peak, risking asset values. The conversation explores China's aggressive liquidity measures, potential backing of the yuan with gold, and the contrasting tightening in the US. Howell warns about the implications for equities linked to Fed liquidity and highlights the growing refinancing demands that could lead to market vulnerability. His main takeaway? Keep a close eye on liquidity indicators and repo markets.

Interview recorded - 13th of October, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Bill Fleckenstein. Bill is a professional money manager with over 30 years of experience. He writes a writes a daily column and is the author of “Greenspan’s bubbles: the age of ignorance at the federal reserve”.During our conversation we spoke about his economic outlook, market volatility, risk of a market crash, Bill's gameplan and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:49 - Outlook4:19 - Indexes are converging5:39 - Market volatility7:29 - Financial nihilism 9:03 - Economy strong?9:49 - Market crash?12:13 - Bill’s gameplan 14:03 - Debasement15:59 - Bond market19:14 - Yield curve control20:09 - Inflation23:04 - AI deflationary impact24:19 - Idiosyncratic investments25:59 - One message to takeaway?Bill Fleckenstein is president of Fleckenstein Capital, a money management firm based in Seattle. He writes a daily Market Rap column for his website, Fleckensteincapital.com, as well as the popular column Contrarian Chronicles for MSN Money.Bill Fleckenstein began writing a daily column on the Internet in 1996. Initially, the Market Rap was a daily recap of market events, with an added "Yes, but..." emphasis. "I quickly learned that the contrarian viewpoint was often misrepresented and under-reported. Since then, my daily column has always called it like I see it. I've tried to write the column in a way that even the novice investor can understand. I believe it's better to teach someone how to fish, rather than just give them an occasional fish."Bill Fleckenstein - Website: https://www.fleckensteincapital.com/Twitter: https://x.com/fleckcap?lang=enWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Interview recorded - 1st of October, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Rick Rule. Rick is the Former President & CEO of Sprott U.S. Holdings with decades of experience in the commodities business.During our conversation we spoke about his current outlook, job revisions, foreign direct investment, why an economic reckoning could be caused by a "dishonest default", gold and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction2:03 - Current outlook4:16 - Job revisions5:28 - Labour vs capital7:22 - Foreign direct investment12:00 - Shifting to investment led economy15:59 - Shift from US to wealth assets17:26 - Precious metals run to continue?19:42 - Copper vs gold22:20 - Oil24:33 - Resolving deficits28:47 - One message to takeaway?Rick began his career 47 years ago in 1974 in the securities business and has been involved in it ever since. He is known for his expertise in many resource sectors, including agriculture, alternative energy, forestry, oil and gas, mining, and water. In 1990, Rick founded the business now known as Sprott US Holdings” merging in into Sprott Inc. ( SII) in 2011. He retired from Sprott Inc., in 2021, and resigned from the board of directors in 2023, but remains Sprott’s largest shareholder. IMr. Rule is a sought-after speaker at industry conferences, and a frequent contributor to numerous media outlets including CNBC, Fox Business News and BNN. Mr. Rule is actively engaged in private placement markets, through originating and participating in hundreds of debt and equity transactions.Rick Rule - Twitter - https://twitter.com/RealRickRuleLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-rule-1058921a/Website - https://ruleinvestmentmedia.com/Seminar - https://opptravel.zohobackstage.com/TheRuleSymposiumonNaturalResourceInvesting2024#/?affl=WTFinanceWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Interview recorded - 29th of September, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Jeff Snider. Jeff is at the forefront of modern money and monetary science, specifically the Euro dollar market and its impact globally. He is also the host of the Eurodollar University.During our conversation we touched on Jeff's economic outlook, recent credit bankruptcies, whether all the economic weakness could be coming through, gold, dollar not at risk, shifting away from the Eurodollar and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction0:51 - Economic outlook4:22 - GDP hot, jobs weak10:47 - Credit bankruptcies15:15 - Data distortions18:30 - Market driving economics28:20 - Gold signal32:58 - Dollar not at risk37:17 - Shifting away from the Eurodollar40:28 - Stablecoins43:59 - One message to takeaway?Jeff Snider is one of the foremost experts on the global monetary system, specifically the eurodollar money system, and all aspects of its misunderstood inner workings and how they impact global markets, commerce, and economy. His podcast - Eurodollar University - aims to educate the public on the evolution and nature, and nuances of the eurodollar system and true monetary principles. He is a regular contributor to Real Clear Markets and a columnist for the Epoch Times, and is active on Twitter as well as He has been a guest on countless programs including MacroVoices, and Real Vision for his insights into the Eurodollar system, LIBOR, and repo/securities lending markets., etc.Jeff Snider - YouTube - @eurodollaruniversity Website - https://www.eurodollar.university/X - https://twitter.com/JeffSnider_AIPWebinar - https://webinar.eurodollar-university.com/homeWTFinance - Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes -https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-fatseas-761066103/X - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Interview recorded - 30th of September, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Louis Gave. Louis is the Founding Partner & Chief Executive Officer of Gavekal.During our conversation we spoke about Louis' outlook for the economy, liquidity, Chinese 10% deficit, China's shifting economy, demographics, BRICS alliance and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction2:50 - Outlook on the economy?4:54 - Liquidity 7:42 - Foreign direct investment9:57 - Chinese 10% deficit12:46 - China’s shifting economy19:26 - Demographics 20:46 - Shift to Russia, China & India25:41 - One message to takeaway?After receiving his bachelor's degree from Duke University and studying Mandarin at Nanjing University, Louis joined the French Army where he served as a second lieutenant in a mountain infantry battalion. After a couple of years, Louis left the army and joined Paribas where he worked as a financial analyst—first in Paris, then in Hong Kong.Louis left Paribas in 1998 to launch Gavekal with his father Charles and Anatole Kaletsky. The idea at the time was that Asia was set to become an ever more important factor in global growth, and that consequently Gavekal needed to offer its clients more information, and more ideas, relating to Asia.Louis has written seven books, the latest being Avoiding the Punch: Investing in Uncertain Times which reviews how to build a portfolio at a time of rising geostrategic strife, and when very low interest rates and stretched valuations on most assets announce constrained returns on most assets over the next decade.Louis speaks English and French. He spent many hours studying Mandarin and Spanish, which he once spoke decently. He is married with two sons and two daughters.Louis-Vincent Gave:Website - https://research.gavekal.com/Twitter - https://x.com/gave_vincentWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseasThumbnail image from - https://gmk.center/en/news/the-world-bank-expects-chinas-economy-to-slow-down-in-2025/

Interview recorded - 29th of September, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Gilbert Doctorow. Gilbert is a author and geopolitical analyst with decades of experience.During our conversation we spoke about the geopolitical sphere, war parties shifting, trump impact, Ukraine vs Russia conflict, US pivoting to China, return of the Monroe doctrine and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:17 - Geopolitical sphere3:51 - War parties shifting?9:48 - Trump impact14:43 - Common enemy16:19 - Ukraine - Russia conflict27:13 - Peace deal?31:24 - US pivoting to China?36:07 - Return to Monroe doctrine37:11 - Multiple spheres39:11 - One message to takeaway?Gilbert Doctorow is a professional Russia watcher and actor in Russian affairs going back to 1965. He is a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College (1967), a past Fulbright scholar, and holder of a Ph.D. with honors in history from Columbia University (1975).After completing his studies, Mr. Doctorow pursued a business career focused on the USSR and Eastern Europe. For twenty-five years he worked for US and European multinationals in marketing and general management with regional responsibility.From 1998-2002, Doctorow served as the Chairman of the Russian Booker Literary Prize in Moscow. During the 2010-2011 academic year, he was a Visiting scholar of the Harriman Institute, Columbia University.Mr. Doctorow is a long-time resident of Brussels.Gilbert Doctorow:Substack - https://gilbertdoctorow.substack.com/Books - https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B0048RTGTMWTFinance - Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseasThumbnail image from - https://crescent.icit-digital.org/articles/will-trump-become-the-gorbachev-of-us-imperialism

Interview recorded - 16th of September, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Jason Shapiro. Jason is a trading legend, with 30+ years of trading experience, a hedge fund manager and featured in the book Unknown Market Wizards. During our conversation we spoke about the outlook on markets, how its the most hated rally in history, potential for September dip, AI stocks not peaked yet, Bullish assets and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:25 - Outlook on markets5:31 - Hated rally12:09 - September dip?12:43 - AI stocks not peaked?14:00 - Russell to outperform?15:17 - Global performance17:51 - Noise in markets19:21 - Bullish assets25:34 - Contrarian investing?26:59 - One message to takeaway?With over 30 years of trading experience, Jason has gone through most markets a trader should see in their career. From the crazy rallies during the 90s, the tech bubble pop in early 2000s, the 2008 market crash and the latest bull run starting in 2009. Through the last 20 years of his career, he has used a contrarian approach which has been very successful to him and his clients, as verified by Jack D. Schwager in his latest MARKET WIZARDS BOOK. Jason has managed large sums of money from a few million to several hundred million and learned a great deal about the Futures markets, from Equities, Currencies and Fixed Income to Currencies and Precious Metals.Jason Shapiro - Website - https://www.crowdedmarketreport.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/Crowded_Mkt_RptLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-shapiro-53674994/YouTube - @crowdedmarketreport WTFinance - Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseasThumbnail Image from - https://www.caixinglobal.com/2019-03-12/opinion-china-stocks-arent-in-a-bull-market-yet-101391594.html

Interview recorded - 16th of September, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming on Mel Matterson. Mel is writer and financial services veteran, with 20 years in the realm of high finance. During our conversation we spoke about his outlook, how he is bullish, large deficits, central bank independence, yield curve control, peak ponzi scheme, market outlook, when to sell and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:32 - Outlook on markets5:05 - Bond rally?11:26 - Large deficits17:02 - Central Bank independence22:07 - Yield control QE?26:12 - Peak ponzi scheme29:52 - Market outlook32:52 - Economic shift39:24 - When to sell?41:52 - One message to takeaway?For over twenty years, Mel has held key posts with both established asset managers such as Russell Investments and fast-growth startup firms like United Capital (acquired 2019 by Goldman Sachs). Since 2019, Mel has focused almost exclusively on private equity and the employee stock option financing space. He also founded the personal finance and wellness app, MoneyComb, in 2014. Seed funded by Duke University and incubated under leading behavioral economist Dan Ariely, MoneyComb quickly gained a reputation for innovative thinking about money and happiness: MoneyComb in WSJ.Having served as the CEO of three different FINRA and SEC registered broker-dealers, Mel has established himself as an expert in the operation of financial firms with an emphasis on broker-dealer formation, private placements, compliance, and scaling of digital operations.Mel holds an MBA with concentrations in investment and corporate finance from Duke University. He received his BA from Loyola University Chicago where he majored in philosophy, minored in English, and helped establish the school’s nascent men’s rugby program. Mel is also a Certified Financial Planner™ Professional and holds the CFP® designation.Mel Mattison:Website - https://www.melmattison.com/X - https://twitter.com/MelMattison1Book - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK6WTGJV?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ZBJCM70F8RTF8WCETGYTWTFinance:Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes -https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-fatseas-761066103/Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseasThumbnail picture from - https://www.carsongroup.com/insights/blog/seven-reasons-this-bull-market-is-alive-and-well/