
Two Sides of FI
Two lifelong friends document and share their personal journey as they seek to become financially independent and retire early (FIRE). One achieves his FIRE goal in 2020 during a global pandemic, inspiring the other to play catch-up. Whether you are new to the FIRE movement, already on your FIRE journey, or have retired early, there’s something here for you. Go beyond the numbers and get the personal stories as experienced by Eric and Jason.
Latest episodes

Nov 6, 2022 • 43min
My Plan to Retire Early is ON HOLD
The bear market has forced many to revise their FI goals and retirement plans. In this episode, Eric talks with Jason about pushing back his FI date, options he's considering, whether BaristaFIRE could be the answer, the possibility of redefining work, and advice for others in a similar position. See the link below for the show notes.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/delayed

Oct 23, 2022 • 45min
Reacting to YOUR Ideas for Holding Cash
Are you worried about holding cash in this high inflation environment? In a recent video, we talked about the role of cash pre- and post-retirement. In this episode, Eric + Jason review and react to YOUR ideas that you shared with us. Topics covered include bond ladders, high yield savings, real estate, gold and other cash alternatives, and emergency funds. Check out the link below for the show notes, including all the content referenced in this episode.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/cash

Oct 9, 2022 • 43min
Is This a Part of Your FIRE Plan?
Chasing short term market conditions adds a lot of risk to reaching your long term investing goals. An investment policy statement (IPS) can help ensure you stick to your strategy, and avoid market timing and other investing pitfalls. In this episode, Eric talks with Jason about his IPS, and why he finds it such a useful tool. Topics covered include defining portfolio makeup + objectives, the mechanics of cash generation + rebalancing, and why you might consider implementing an IPS yourself. See the link below for the show notes, where we link to Jason's IPS and other content we referenced in the episode.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/ips

Sep 25, 2022 • 47min
Will You Run Out of Money or Time? FI Advice From a Hospice Doctor
Jordan 'Doc G' Grumet, a hospice doctor and author, shares profound insights on financial independence drawn from his experiences with dying patients. He challenges the traditional notions of wealth, emphasizing the importance of living meaningfully and finding purpose beyond financial success. Topics include the balance of enjoying the present while planning for the future, the significance of personal passions, and redefining what 'enough' truly means. His reflections encourage listeners to prioritize relationships and mindfulness over mere financial metrics.

Sep 11, 2022 • 50min
FIRE and Holding Cash - What We’re Doing
How much cash in your portfolio is enough - or too much? In this episode, Eric + Jason discuss the idea of holding cash allocations pre- and post-retirement. Topics covered include emergency funds, the temptation to invest in a down market, bonds, and building cash reserves. Join us as we discuss this essential retirement topic. Check out the link below for the show notes, including all the content referenced in this episode.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/cash

Aug 28, 2022 • 26min
Do I Wish I’d Worked One More Year?
With all of the volatility in the market, should you delay retirement by a year? A viewer asked Jason if he would feel more secure had he worked another year or two before retiring early. In today's episode, Eric + Jason discuss that question and the merits of considering "one more year". Join us as we discuss this idea and the reasons you might consider that option, what Jason would have missed out on if he had worked longer, and the value he found in retiring when he did. Check out the link below for the show notes, including all the content referenced in this episode.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/onemoreyear
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Aug 14, 2022 • 35min
How I Plan to Retire Early on a $50K Salary
Can you retire early without a high-paying tech industry salary? In this episode, we talk with Stephen about how he plans to do just that. At 30 years old, he's earning $50k as a higher education administrator, yet he plans to retire with at least a million dollars by his early 50s. How will he do that? Join us as we discuss his plans, the role of financial discipline, why he doesn't feel he's overly frugal, and the challenges of his FIRE path.
**Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/50k

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Jul 31, 2022 • 39min
Karsten Spoke, We Listened. Here’s What We Learned.
Karsten Jeske, an economist and CFA known as 'Big ERN,' dives into the complexities of retirement withdrawal strategies. He challenges the traditional 4% rule, discussing its risks in varying market conditions and the necessity for personalized planning. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding individual financial goals, while advocating for iterative, flexible strategies instead of oversimplified advice. Listeners will find insights on tailoring their FIRE journeys to enhance financial security, backed by anecdotes and listener feedback.

Jul 16, 2022 • 47min
Don’t Let the Cost of Healthcare Break Your Early Retirement Plan
Calculating the cost of health insurance is a complicated and stressful exercise when you're retiring early. Hear Jason's experience with his first full year using the California ACA Exchange and learn how Eric arrived at his budget of $350K, his worst case scenario. We discuss how to choose a plan, ACA subsidies, differences by state, and other alternative options. If you missed our earlier healthcare episode, be sure to see the link below.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/aca

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Jul 3, 2022 • 1h 4min
What the FIRE Community Gets Wrong - Talking with Karsten Jeske
Karsten Jeske, an economist and creator of the Early Retirement Now blog, shares invaluable insights into the FIRE community's misconceptions about safe withdrawal rates. He critiques popular FIRE calculators, emphasizing the need for personalized strategies and proper context in market conditions. The discussion includes the risks associated with 100% stock portfolios, challenges of relying on dividend stocks, and the importance of financial buffers for peace of mind during retirement. Karsten also reflects on his own experience in post-FIRE life.
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