

Overheard
Foreign Policy Research Instit
Overheard is the Foreign Policy Research Institute's new podcast series exploring the national security implications of intelligence activities, irregular warfare, and political warfare.Join Philip Wasielewski, director of FPRI’s Center for the Study of Intelligence and Nontraditional Warfare, as he discusses the past, present, and future of these activities with intelligence, military, and political practitioners to discover what is new at the intersection between the craft of intelligence and the military and political arts. New episodes are available each month on Apple podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. To be the first to know about new episodes, please subscribe to our mailing list and follow us on Twitter @FPRI.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 40min
Al Qaeda and the Islamic State: Still Alive and Fighting in the Sahel
Listen in to Overheard as Mike DeAngelo discusses with Phil Wasielewski how militant Islamic terrorist groups are waging parallel insurgencies across western Africa, the motivations fueling these conflicts, how local African government responses sometimes just add more fuel to the fire, and why Americans should care about this little known but deadly irregular war.

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Aug 15, 2025 • 35min
Hybrid Warfare: A Conversation with Dr. Frank Hoffman
Dr. Frank Hoffman, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and national security scholar, delves into the origins of hybrid warfare, a term he popularized nearly two decades ago. He discusses the strategic context and his influences, notably unrestricted warfare. Hoffman examines how Russia's actions in Crimea reshaped the interpretation of hybrid tactics, highlighting critiques of the term in Europe. He warns about current threats, especially in information and cognitive warfare, and offers insights on future defense strategies.

Jun 24, 2025 • 37min
Russian Political Warfare Operations in the Balkans
The western Balkans, including Bosnia and Kosovo, were the scene of some of the bloodiest warfare and atrocities in Europe post-World War Two until Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Approximately twenty-five years after the last of the fighting in the region, tensions still simmer and some predict that the region could see a renewal of violence. Whereas the previous Balkan Wars were the result of the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, a future Balkan war could be ignited by Serbian irredentism and spread by Russia. Will Russia's political warfare operations in the Balkans fuel the next war? Balkan scholar and Russian security expert Ivana Stradner joins host Phil Wasielewski to discuss this threat and her recent FPRI article on the subject, and analyzes the possible impact of Russian disinformation, subversion, and covert actions on peace and stability in the Balkans.Related Reading: https://www.fpri.org/article/2025/06/will-russian-political-warfare-operations-in-the-balkans-fuel-its-next-war/ - Ivana Stradner -FPRI

Apr 3, 2025 • 45min
Where and Why to Spy?
How does the Intelligence Community focus its collection and analysis? Retired CIA officers Norman Roule and Yong Suk Lee discuss how intelligence collection among America's 18 separate intelligence agencies is planned and coordinated and how that collection is analyzed and presented to policymakers. Join in to learn how the intelligence collection process works and the role of policymakers from two former senior CIA officials with a combined half-century of experience in the intelligence field.

Feb 21, 2025 • 42min
Local Forces and Counterinsurgency Campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq
In this edition of Overheard, Phil Wasielewski talks to Dr. Arturo Munoz and Dr. Diane Zorri about the academic papers they presented at last year's FPRI-sponsored conference on Lessons Learned from post-9/11 Irregular Wars. The three will discuss how America used or improperly used local police and militia forces in counterinsurgency campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq and now to do better in the future. Related reading: Iraq’s Unfinished War: Security in the Post-Saddam Era by Diane ZorriThe Rise and Fall of Afghanistan’s Local Defense Forces by Arturo Munoz

Dec 6, 2024 • 37min
Russian Political Warfare and the Georgian and Moldovan Elections
In this episode, Phil Wasielewski follows up on the recent Overheard podcast Russia's Other War in Europe to examine just how Russia worked to manipulate voting and voter sentiments this past October in the former Soviet Republics of Georgia and Moldova. Joining in are FPRI Senior Fellow Batu Kutelia and retired senior State Department official and Moldova expert William Hill who will examine Moscow's tactics from voter intimidation to vote buying and beyond.

Oct 14, 2024 • 51min
The Espionage Act versus the First Amendment
Was the June 2024 conviction of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange for violating the Espionage Act a victory for national security or a defeat for freedom of the press? What are the rights but also the responsibilities that journalists and media organizations have with regards to publishing classified information? CNN journalist Jill Dougherty, FPRI Senior Fellow George Croner, and national security legal expert Jim Petrila join Overheard to discuss this issue and the implications for national security and the First Amendment.

Aug 19, 2024 • 47min
Russia's Other War in Europe
The Overheard podcast discusses Russian political warfare operations and objectives in Georgia and Moldova with the people who are fighting back against Moscow's efforts. Join Philip Wasielewski as he discusses Russia's covert war in its former Soviet space with Batu Kutelia, David Sikharulidze, Valeriu Pasa, and Sergehi Ostaf as they tell in their own words what Russian political warfare is doing to their countries' sovereignty and independence.

Jul 16, 2024 • 46min
Lessons Learned from the Intelligence Reform Act of 2004
On the 20th anniversary year of the legislation creating the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Phil Wasielewski discusses with former acting Director of Central Intelligence John McLaughlin and former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon the effects of this law and what impact it has had on the Intelligence Community.

Jun 14, 2024 • 38min
An American Irregular Warfare Success Story: OSS Detachment 101 in Burma During WWII
Phil Wasielewski and US Army Special Operations Command historian Troy Sacquety explore how the Office of Strategic Services waged a little known but strategically impactful irregular war against the Japanese army in Burma with the help of local guerrilla fighters and how lessons learned from this campaign can be applied today.


