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Abel Police is transforming law enforcement efficiency through AI-powered report generation technology. With $5 million in funding, the company has developed a computer vision and natural language processing platform that automatically generates police reports from body camera footage, reducing officer paperwork time by up to one-third. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Daniel Francis, Founder and CEO of Abel Police, to explore how a former data engineer with no policing background identified a massive inefficiency in law enforcement and built technology to address it. Topics Discussed: How a personal experience with domestic violence response times led to the founding of Abel Police The discovery that police officers spend one-third of their time writing reports Abel Police's approach to integrating with existing digital evidence management systems The unique challenges of selling technology to government agencies and police departments The company's evolution from attempting full record management system integration to standalone solutions The regulatory compliance requirements specific to criminal justice information systems (CJIS) GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Immerse yourself completely in your target customer's world: Daniel spent 32 ride-alongs with police officers across different departments, not just conducting interviews but observing their daily workflows for hours. He describes himself as "chief ride along officer" and emphasizes that he had to "creepily watch them work for hours" to understand their pain points. B2B founders should go beyond traditional customer interviews and embed themselves in their customers' actual work environment to identify problems that aren't immediately obvious through conversation alone. Start with mock data when real data is inaccessible: Unable to access actual body camera footage, Daniel created fake scenarios with friends, filming mock arrests and citations to train their AI models. This creative workaround allowed them to begin product development despite regulatory barriers to accessing real police footage. B2B founders facing data access challenges should find creative ways to simulate their target environment and data types to begin building and testing their solutions. Become an insider to overcome industry skepticism: Daniel secured a position as a "records intern" at Richmond Police Department when they wouldn't initially buy his solution, giving him access to real body camera footage and deeper understanding of police workflows. This inside access became crucial for product development and credibility. B2B founders entering unfamiliar industries should consider temporary or consulting arrangements that allow them to work alongside their target customers and gain credibility within the industry. Give away pilots strategically in government markets: Contrary to Y Combinator's advice to always charge for pilots, Daniel found that offering free trials was essential for police departments due to their complex procurement processes. He explains that "if they have to pay for something, that's a hassle" in government settings, but if they're willing to share their data with you, "they're serious about it." B2B founders selling to government should consider free pilots as a necessary investment to navigate bureaucratic purchasing processes. Build standalone solutions before attempting platform integration: Abel Police initially tried to integrate with every record management system, which significantly delayed their go-to-market timeline. They found success by building a standalone version first, then pursuing integrations. Daniel notes they "would have never sold anything" if they had stuck to their original integration-first approach. B2B founders should prioritize getting a working solution in customers' hands over achieving perfect system integration from day one. Leverage adjacent opportunities from your core market position: Once established with police departments, Abel Police identified additional problems like online citizen reporting and policy/law lookup tools. Their relationship with agencies made them "very open to new solutions" since "there's way more problems than there is solutions" in policing. B2B founders should view their initial market entry as a platform for identifying and addressing related problems within the same customer base.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Conifer is pioneering a revolutionary approach to electric powertrains by eliminating dependence on rare earth materials while maintaining superior performance. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, we spoke with Ankit Somani, Co-Founder of Conifer, about the company's mission to make electric powertrains as simple and manufacturable as internal combustion engines. Their breakthrough technology addresses critical supply chain vulnerabilities while enabling faster, more cost-effective electrification across industries from two-wheelers to delivery vehicles and robotics. Topics Discussed: The fundamental challenges with current electric powertrain manufacturing and rare earth material dependencies Conifer's approach to creating modular, rare earth-free electric powertrains with 90% commonized components The company's manufacturing-first design philosophy that prioritizes scalability and cost reduction Strategic go-to-market approaches for hardware companies selling to technical buyers Building brand trust and long-term customer relationships in hardware markets Earned media strategies that generated significant inbound demand without paid advertising The geopolitical implications of rare earth material supply chain constraints GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Start with manufacturing constraints, not just product design: Ankit emphasized that their team approached hardware development backwards from typical startups. Instead of designing first and figuring out manufacturing later, they started by solving the hardest constraints: "Can you actually source the materials and manufacture it cheaply first and use that to then guide your design?" This manufacturing-first approach enabled them to create products that could scale economically from day one. B2B hardware founders should prioritize understanding their manufacturing and supply chain limitations before finalizing product specifications. Target technical champions who feel the pain daily: Rather than selling through traditional procurement channels, Conifer went directly to the end designers who were "perplexed with here's so many options I need to qualify." These technical users became their champions within customer organizations. As Ankit explained, "Use that to matrix in rest of the organization" rather than becoming just another commodity option in a sea of vendors. B2B founders should identify the specific technical roles that experience their problem most acutely and build champion relationships there first. Leverage geopolitical timing for category creation: Conifer's success was amplified by aligning their rare earth-free value proposition with growing geopolitical concerns about supply chain dependencies. Ankit noted: "The most important thing is what is happening in the world that you can most closely associate with where you could have a differing opinion." They positioned themselves as the alternative when the market was actively seeking solutions to rare earth dependencies. B2B founders should identify macro trends that create urgency for their solution and time their messaging accordingly. Build conviction for multi-year hardware cycles: Unlike software where you can iterate quickly based on customer feedback, hardware requires longer-term conviction. Ankit shared: "In a hardware product you have to have at least a two year view because that's the true cycle of making the product, proving the product and put it into production." Their decision to stick with rare earth-free technology, even when customers suggested alternatives, proved crucial when market conditions validated their thesis. Hardware founders must develop conviction in their core technical bets and resist the temptation to pivot based on short-term customer requests. Use physical demonstrations as your primary sales tool: Conifer's marketing strategy centers on putting working products in customers' hands rather than relying on presentations. As Ankit explained: "When you give a product in people's hands and within two minutes they realize the value of it without going through a bunch of PowerPoint." Their approach involves integrating systems into customer vehicles so prospects can "touch and feel" the performance difference. B2B hardware founders should prioritize creating tangible demonstrations that let customers experience their product's value directly.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Healthcare payments consume between $650 billion and $1 trillion annually in billing and insurance-related costs—an amount comparable to the entire U.S. Defense Department budget. At the heart of this staggering inefficiency lies a fundamental problem: when patients receive care, nobody actually knows in real-time whether the insurance will pay for it. Mike Desjadon, CEO of Anomaly, spent nearly two decades in healthcare payments before building a company to solve this core issue. In this episode, we explore how Anomaly is creating "payment assurance" for healthcare—bringing the same real-time payment certainty that exists everywhere else in commerce to an industry desperately in need of it. Topics Discussed: The massive scale of healthcare billing costs and why precision is impossible at this scale How the complex coding system (ICD, CPT, revenue codes) creates a "ridiculous Rubik's Cube" of payment determination Why healthcare lacks payment assurance while every other industry has real-time payment certainty The fundamental information asymmetry between providers and insurers that drives administrative waste Anomaly's approach to using AI and machine learning to predict payment outcomes early in the care process The strategic decision to focus exclusively on providers rather than serving both sides of the market   GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Avoid "Annual Curiosity Revenue" in favor of deep customer relationships: Mike warns against chasing what he calls "ACR" - contracts driven by curiosity about new technology rather than real value. Instead of racing to accumulate surface-level customers, Anomaly focuses on 1-5 anchor customers where they forward-deploy engineers and dedicate leadership attention. As Mike explained, "I'd rather take a much smaller amount of those trusted pitches... find me 10 of the right conversations, don't find me a hundred surface level conversations." In healthcare's 14-month sales cycles, shallow relationships burn runway without building sustainable growth. Match your go-to-market strategy to industry realities, not investor expectations: Healthcare's long sales cycles and conservative nature require a fundamentally different approach than traditional SaaS growth models. Mike structured Anomaly's capital and hiring strategy around 14-month sales cycles rather than trying to compress them. "If you know that it's a 14 month sales cycle... being realistic about those timeframes and those capital structures, you just make sure your plan on burn matches your plan on strategy." This meant hiring customer success and engineering talent before traditional sales roles, aligning team composition with the actual customer adoption process. Segment ruthlessly based on transformation readiness: Not every healthcare organization is ready for transformative technology. Mike emphasizes the critical need to identify whether prospects are "looking for transformation" versus "looking to automate an isolated process." He shares that distinguishing between these segments determines the entire sales approach. Organizations seeking transformation are willing to work through implementation complexity for substantial outcomes, while those seeking automation want predictable, incremental improvements. Misreading this distinction leads to failed sales cycles and misaligned product development. Use forward-deployed engineering as a competitive advantage: Rather than traditional customer success managers, Anomaly deploys engineers directly to customers during implementation. This approach proves particularly valuable in AI/ML applications where the technology is rapidly evolving and customer needs aren't fully defined. Mike notes, "Having engineers in that has been hugely valuable for us because we're able to really quickly deliver value, very quickly deliver outsized value." This strategy enables rapid iteration, builds deeper technical trust, and often leads to expanded contracts through demonstrated capability rather than traditional sales pitches. Build category credibility through case studies, not connections: In healthcare, having impressive investors or warm introductions matters far less than demonstrating proven results with known organizations. Mike emphasizes, "What you need in healthcare is slapping six case studies down the desk... show me the six organizations that I know that you work with that are going to tell me I should work with you." This insight drives Anomaly's entire early-stage strategy—prioritizing customer success and measurable outcomes over rapid customer acquisition, building the credibility foundation needed for future sales acceleration.     //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Healthcare productivity is broken. While labor represents 60% of all healthcare spending—comparable only to the hospitality industry—the overwhelming majority of chronic disease management happens outside clinical settings with virtually no professional oversight. Phamily (Jaan Health) has raised $25 million to solve this fundamental inefficiency through their AI-enabled platform, which automates care management for patients with chronic diseases between visits. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Nabeel Kaukab, Founder & CEO of Phamily, to explore how his company is addressing the $5 trillion healthcare industry's core productivity challenge while enabling providers to reach 100 times more patients than traditional care models allow. Topics Discussed: The parallels between early internet adoption in the 1990s and today's AI revolution Why labor costs drive 60% of healthcare spending, making productivity the only solution worth pursuing The fundamental three-party dynamic in healthcare where consumers don't pay and payers don't consume How real triage happens between patients and non-medical professionals, not in emergency rooms The transition from episodic, scheduled care to proactive, automated care management Why healthy young professionals aren't the target demographic for healthcare technology The economics of running a $15-20 million revenue doctor's office like a corner business Building sustainable growth without subsidizing customers or burning excessive capital   GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Understand your customer's economic reality before building solutions: Nabeel emphasized that healthcare providers operate under extreme economic constraints where they "do God's work but oftentimes at their own expense." He learned that approaching doctors with patient-first messaging fails because providers are already saturated with out-of-pocket expenses for patient care. B2B founders entering regulated industries must understand that their customers' willingness to adopt new solutions depends entirely on economic viability, not just value creation. If your solution doesn't improve your customer's unit economics, you're wasting everyone's time. Don't assume sophisticated organizations have sophisticated operations: Despite generating $15-20 million in annual revenue, most doctor's offices operate like small family businesses. Nabeel discovered that these substantial healthcare practices are often run by office managers who serve as CFO/COO without business school training and may not have college degrees. B2B founders should audit the actual operational sophistication of their target customers rather than making assumptions based on organization size or industry reputation. Adjust your messaging, terminology, and sales process accordingly. Target the constraint, not the ideal customer: Jaan Health succeeded by focusing on the fundamental constraint in healthcare—the 1:2000 doctor-to-patient ratio that makes individualized attention impossible. Rather than trying to serve healthy, tech-savvy young professionals who can afford premium care, they built for the massive population of chronic disease patients who need consistent monitoring but can't access it. B2B founders should identify and design for the bottleneck in their industry rather than the most attractive or vocal customer segment. Build category understanding through problem-solving, not positioning: Nabeel admitted it took nearly a decade to clearly articulate their category as "chronic care management between visits." Rather than starting with category creation, they focused intensively on solving real workflow problems for providers and patients. Only after achieving substantial scale and proven outcomes did they invest in category messaging. B2B founders should prioritize deep problem-solving over early positioning and allow their category definition to emerge from market feedback. Raise capital for growth, not survival: Jaan Health achieved 50-100% annual growth and eight-figure ARR by raising minimal capital initially and proving unit economics before scaling. Nabeel stressed raising money "when you know you can get a return on it as opposed to raising capital because you want to stay alive." This approach enabled them to sell value rather than discounting services. B2B founders should establish sustainable unit economics and proven customer demand before raising significant growth capital.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Personal AI is pioneering the next generation of artificial intelligence with their memory-first platform that creates personalized AI models for individuals and organizations. Having raised over $16 million, the company has evolved from targeting consumers to focusing on enterprise customers who need highly private, precise, and personalized AI solutions. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Suman Kanuganti, CEO and Co-Founder of Personal AI, to explore the company's journey from early AI experimentation in 2015 to building what he envisions as the future AI workforce for enterprise organizations. Topics Discussed: Personal AI's evolution from consumer-focused to enterprise B2B platform The technical architecture behind personal language models vs. large language models Privacy-first approach and competitive advantages in regulated industries Go-to-market pivot and scaling from small law firms to enterprise contracts Unit economics advantages and 10x cost reduction compared to traditional LLMs Vision for AI workforce integration in public companies within 3-5 years GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Recognize when market timing doesn't align with your vision: Suman's team was building AI solutions as early as 2015, nearly a decade before the ChatGPT moment. When ChatGPT launched in November 2022, Personal AI faced confusion from investors and customers about their differentiation. Rather than forcing their sophisticated personal AI models on consumers who wanted simpler solutions, they recognized the market mismatch and pivoted. B2B founders should be prepared to adjust their go-to-market approach when market readiness doesn't match their technical capabilities, even if their technology is superior. Find your wedge in enterprise through specific pain points: Personal AI discovered their enterprise entry point by targeting "highly sensitive use cases that LLMs are not good for" where companies would be "shit scared to put any data in the LLM." They focused on precision and privacy pain points that large language models couldn't address. B2B founders should identify specific enterprise pain points where their solution provides clear advantages over existing alternatives, rather than trying to be everything to everyone. Let customer expansion drive revenue growth: Personal AI's enterprise strategy evolved organically as existing contracts "started growing like wildfire as more people had a creative mindset to solve the problem with the platform." They discovered that their Persona concept allowed enterprises to consolidate multiple AI use cases into one platform. B2B founders should design their platforms to naturally expand within organizations and reduce vendor fragmentation, creating stickiness and increasing average contract values. Leverage architectural advantages for unit economics: By positioning their personal language models between customer use cases and large language models, Personal AI achieved "10x lower cost" per token. This architectural decision created both privacy benefits and economic advantages. B2B founders should consider how their technical architecture can create sustainable competitive advantages in both functionality and economics, not just features. Geography matters more than you think for fundraising: Suman identified his biggest fundraising mistake as not moving to San Francisco earlier, stating "back in 2022 or 2023 is when I should have moved to San Francisco, period." He learned that being part of the Silicon Valley ecosystem and conversation is critical for fundraising success. B2B founders should consider the strategic importance of physical presence in key markets, especially when raising capital, and not underestimate the value of in-person relationship building.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Typedef is building an inference-first data engine designed for the new era of AI agents and machine-to-machine interactions. With $5.5 million in funding, the company is reimagining data infrastructure for a world where both humans and AI systems need seamless access to data processing capabilities. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Kostas Pardalis, Co-Founder & CEO of Typedef, to explore how the company is addressing the fundamental shift from traditional business intelligence platforms to AI-native data infrastructure that treats inference as a first-class citizen alongside traditional compute resources. Topics Discussed: Typedef's vision for inference-first data infrastructure in the AI era The transition from human-only to machine-to-machine data interactions Why infrastructure companies take longer to reach revenue but build deeper moats The evolution from pre-AI data platforms to AI-native solutions Design partner strategies for infrastructure companies Go-to-market approaches that combine bottom-up (engineers) and top-down (decision makers) strategies Category creation challenges in rapidly evolving AI markets The importance of open source and education in developer-focused go-to-market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Start go-to-market activities during the design partner phase: Kostas emphasized that go-to-market isn't something you switch on after product development. "It's okay to go out there and talk about something that it's not very well defined or it might change, but actually it doesn't matter... go to market like just like everything else, it's an interactive process." B2B founders should begin building awareness, creating content, and engaging with potential customers even while their product is still evolving. Design partners must have real pain, not just time: The biggest insight about design partnerships is treating them like real customer relationships. "A design partner is still someone who has a problem that needs to be solved... no one is just donating their time out there... There still has to be value there." Don't approach design partnerships as charity work - ensure there's genuine mutual value exchange where your solution addresses real business pain. Product-market fit requires both product AND market innovation: Kostas challenged the common engineering mindset about product-market fit: "Many times, especially engineers, think that when we say product, market fit is that we have market, which is a static thing and we just need to iterate over the product until we find the right thing that matches exactly the market. No, that's not right." B2B founders must innovate on both the product and go-to-market sides simultaneously, including defining their target vertical and building appropriate sales motions. Infrastructure sales require dual-persona strategies: When selling to developers and technical infrastructure, you need both bottom-up and top-down approaches. "Even if you go to the manager and they love what you are saying, you still have to convince the engineers to use this thing... And they have a lot of leverage and vice versa." The bottom-up motion involves open source adoption and education, while the top-down involves traditional outbound sales to decision makers. Category creation doesn't guarantee category dominance: Having witnessed category creation firsthand, Kostas shared that defining a category doesn't ensure winning it. "It doesn't necessarily mean that because you define the categories that you are going to win at the end... Vercel was not actually the company that invented the category there." Focus on solving real problems and building sustainable competitive advantages rather than just being first to market with category messaging.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Wispr Flow has transformed voice dictation from a frustrating novelty into a seamless productivity tool that users trust implicitly. With a recent $30 million Series A led by Menlo Ventures, the company has achieved remarkable product-market fit through 90% word-of-mouth growth and users who share the product organically without prompting. In this episode, I sat down with Tanay Kothari, CEO and Co-Founder of Wispr Flow, to learn about the company's pivot from hardware to software, their approach to manufacturing viral moments, and their strategy for competing against tech giants with distribution advantages. Topics Discussed: Wispr Flow's pivot from building voice assistant hardware to focusing on voice-to-text software The company's unique approach to achieving sub-half-second latency and exceptional accuracy Building viral growth through manufactured "aha moments" and exceptional user onboarding Competing against OpenAI and Apple through speed of execution and user experience focus The challenge of building for mainstream users beyond Silicon Valley's tech-savvy population Strategic decisions around cutting non-essential growth channels to maintain focus GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Manufacture viral moments through obsessive user research: Tanay personally onboarded the first 500 users via Google Meet, watching their facial expressions, mouse movements, and emotional reactions in real-time. This intensive observation allowed him to identify and systematically reproduce moments of user delight. He explained, "Find the things that repeatedly create delight, make sure that never dies, and then find the other places where there's confusion and kind of take them out." B2B founders should invest heavily in understanding the micro-moments of user experience, as these compound into organic growth at scale. Leverage authentic product usage by your target buyers during fundraising: When Wispr Flow raised their Series A, every VC in Silicon Valley was already using the product daily. Tanay noted, "I didn't need to convince them about why the product was good. All I had to tell them about if you believe why Whisper is good today, here is where we can take the company." This eliminated the typical product demonstration phase and shifted conversations to vision and execution capability. B2B founders should prioritize getting their product into the hands of potential investors as users before ever pitching them as investors. Build anti-fragile technology that improves as the industry evolves: Rather than competing directly with AI model capabilities, Wispr Flow built infrastructure that gets better as underlying AI models improve. Tanay instructs his team: "If at some point that you feel afraid of a new model launching, you're doing something wrong." This philosophy led them to focus on latency, user experience, and integration rather than competing on raw AI performance. B2B founders in AI-adjacent spaces should identify where they can create value that compounds with industry improvements rather than being displaced by them. Cut aggressively to maintain focus during rapid growth: Despite conventional wisdom, Wispr Flow eliminated SEO efforts entirely because "no one is searching for voice dictation" and most people don't know the technology has reached usability thresholds. Tanay applies an extreme 80/20 rule: "You can cut the 80% of the things that are not giving you the results... You find a new 20% that's going to give you 80% more results and you can just keep doing that again and again." B2B founders should regularly audit their activities and ruthlessly eliminate even "best practices" that don't align with their specific growth dynamics. Design for mainstream adoption beyond early adopters: While most AI tools target Silicon Valley technologists, Tanay identified that 95% of the population represents the real market opportunity. He noted these users "end up being your most loyal users" because they have less churn and higher lifetime value than tech-savvy early adopters. B2B founders should resist the temptation to only build for sophisticated users and instead consider how their product works for less technically proficient buyers who may represent larger market segments.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Constrafor is revolutionizing how construction companies manage their back office operations, from procurement to embedded finance. With over $400 million in funding and 75,000 companies on their platform representing 25% of US construction companies, Constrafor has processed nearly $2 billion in invoice funding. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Anwar Ghauche, CEO and Founder of Constrafor, to learn about the company's journey from addressing subcontractor payment challenges to building an invisible automation platform for construction's back office. Topics Discussed: Constrafor's origin story and the strategic decision to target general contractors first to access subcontractors The company's evolution from construction procurement platform to comprehensive back office automation Constrafor's approach to embedded finance and the Early Pay product for subcontractors The challenge of building in construction tech during COVID-19 and early customer acquisition strategies Distribution strategies that evolved from manual outreach to leveraging customer referrals The company's vision for invisible software that eliminates manual back office work for subcontractors Why construction remains a technology laggard and how margin compression affects software adoption GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Turn industry warnings into competitive advantages: When mentors warned Anwar that subcontractors were hard to reach and general contractors were poor software buyers, he reframed this as validation. "Instead of taking it as a negative and kind of changing the idea, I took it as kind of validation that this is great. Just because nobody else was really going to try to go after the space." B2B founders should consider whether widespread industry skepticism might actually signal an underserved opportunity with less competition. Build an indirect go-to-market strategy when direct sales won't scale: Rather than pursuing expensive direct sales to thousands of small subcontractors, Constrafor sold to large general contractors at low margins to access their 300-400 subcontractors at once. This created a distribution channel that would have been impossible to build through traditional sales methods. B2B founders should identify intermediaries or platforms that can provide access to their true target customers at scale. Recognize product-market fit through pattern recognition: Anwar knew they had achieved product-market fit when they reached customer number 10-12 requesting exactly the same thing. "We didn't have to kind of study this whole thing from scratch as if we were dealing with it for the first time." B2B founders should look for the moment when customer requests become predictable and solutions become repeatable rather than focusing solely on revenue metrics. Prioritize sales team development over marketing in B2B: Constrafor crossed $1 million in annual revenue before building a marketing team, instead focusing on sales team structure and product-led lead generation. "We've tried to build out the product to generate the leads as opposed to having to rely on marketing for warming up the leads." B2B founders should consider whether their resources are better invested in sales infrastructure and product virality before traditional marketing efforts. Leverage unique data assets for thought leadership: With 25% market penetration, Constrafor began providing industry insights on insurance pricing, material costs, and project pipelines. This data-driven approach to content creation established them as a trusted voice in construction. B2B founders should identify unique data they collect through their platform and use these insights to build authority rather than creating generic educational content.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Connectbase is transforming how service providers buy and sell connectivity in what founder Ben Edmond calls "the connected world" - a massive $1.6 trillion industry that powers our entire digital infrastructure. With $70 million in funding, Connectbase serves 427+ service providers including 82% of the global Gartner Magic Quadrant, creating the ecosystem fabric that connects data centers, towers, fiber networks, and the thousands of providers that deliver connectivity services. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Ben Edmond, CEO and Founder of Connectbase, to learn about the company's journey from solving Excel spreadsheet chaos to building the digital backbone for an entire industry. Topics Discussed:  Connectbase's rapid path from MVP to $1M ARR in 14 months without initial funding The three-layer architecture of the "connected world" industry ecosystem Building "location truth" as a core positioning strategy to unify fragmented data Evolving from "friends of Ben" sales approach to scalable go-to-market systems The strategic shift from product-focused selling to brand-driven market education Critical lessons from selling to wrong customers and wasting time on bright shiny objects Creating "categories of one" versus competing in crowded red ocean markets The 17 times rule for effective communication and message penetration in complex industries GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Ship fast when you deeply understand the customer problem: Ben launched Connectbase's first product just six months after starting the company, reaching $1M ARR 14 months later without initial funding. This speed was possible because he had lived the industry pain for years at companies like MCI. "I understood the problem very well," Ben explains. B2B founders with deep domain expertise should leverage that knowledge to move quickly from problem to solution rather than over-engineering initial products or getting trapped in endless customer discovery cycles. Resist the bright shiny object customer trap at all costs: Ben's biggest mistake was selling to consultants, real estate companies, and other customers outside his core ICP who seemed interested but weren't sustainable. "Selling to the wrong customers would probably be the number one thing," he reflects. "It's pretty easy for lots of people to deliver one time value and then move on, but it's not very valuable really focusing on customers that are going to get durable long term value and you're aligned to accelerating, supporting and uniquely positioned to help." B2B founders should resist revenue from customers outside their ideal customer profile, even when cash flow is tight, and focus exclusively on customers where they can deliver repeatable, long-term value. Time brand investment strategically around behavior change requirements: Around year three, Ben realized Connectbase needed to shift from direct sales to brand building because they were "fundamentally changing behavior and behavior is hard to change." The insight: when your solution requires market education and behavior modification, brand investment becomes more valuable than incremental sales tactics. B2B founders should time this transition carefully - after achieving product-market fit with core customers but before growth stalls due to market education barriers. Apply the "17 times rule" for message penetration in complex markets: Ben developed what he calls the "17 times rule" for market education: "If I don't say the same thing 17 times, you know, very confident that the words are not going to be completely understood and actioned on. But if I do, I'm going to get my point across and be relevant in positioning." This applies to both internal teams and external market positioning. B2B founders in complex industries should systematically track how many times key positioning concepts have been reinforced across all channels and customer touchpoints. Create categories of one by focusing on unique ecosystem positioning: Instead of competing in the crowded $35 billion telecom software space, Ben positioned Connectbase as the only "ecosystem fabric with location truth" for service providers. "I like categories of one instead of categories of many," he explains. B2B founders should identify unique positioning that combines multiple capabilities or approaches in ways competitors cannot easily replicate, rather than trying to be incrementally better at existing category definitions. Build revenue-focused marketing DNA from the foundation: Ben insists on hiring marketers who view themselves as part of the revenue engine, not just lead generators. "Vanity metrics, don't pay anyone's payroll. So you know, really focus on people that have a belief that marketing is part of the revenue engine and an important critical part and driving, you know, the marketing mix to get to close one customers and upsells and long term relationships." B2B founders should establish revenue accountability for all marketing hires and avoid the trap of optimizing for engagement metrics that don't drive business outcomes. Treat fundraising as partnership selection, not capital acquisition: Ben approaches investor selection "almost like getting married" - focusing on partners who understand the industry and can provide strategic value beyond capital. "Find the partners that actually understand your space that you operate in, be choosy, and partners that are going to, you know, help you move forward. Because business is hard... you want people in the corner with a belief and a set of skills and capabilities that are going to elevate you, challenge you, and make you better." B2B founders should prioritize investor expertise and long-term support over valuations, especially when building in specialized or complex industries.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Digit Software is transforming how manufacturers and distributors manage their operations through what they call a "system of progress" - an AI-powered alternative to traditional ERP systems. With $3.3 million in funding, Digit targets the 87% of U.S. companies with fewer than 50 employees who have been locked out of expensive legacy ERP systems. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Dan Koukol, CEO and Co-founder of Digit, to explore how his decade of consulting experience and hands-on CEO role at a manufacturing company shaped his vision for modernizing business operations software. Topics Discussed: Why ERP systems have remained frozen in time while other software categories evolved Digit's unique "framework-first" approach versus traditional module-based systems The company's successful turnaround of Prodigy Disc as proof of concept Creating a new category called "systems of progress" instead of competing in ERP Leveraging Reddit and AI search for B2B vertical SaaS marketing Building a marketing team of two that generates significant leverage through AI tools The beachhead strategy focusing on distributors and light manufacturers GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Turn operational experience into category insight: Dan's decade of consulting for 100+ manufacturers and distributors, plus his hands-on CEO experience at Prodigy Disc, gave him unique insights that pure tech founders lack. He explains, "I can tell you if you're a manufacturer, you probably have a workbench that, you know, you have old inventory shelf and some plywood over it that you know, work on your tooling. Like we've been in the day to day, we've gotten our shoes dirty." B2B founders should deeply embed themselves in their target customers' daily operations to build authentic understanding and credibility. Create blue ocean through strategic language positioning: Rather than competing head-to-head in the crowded ERP market, Dan positioned Digit as a "system of progress" - deliberately avoiding ERP terminology with its negative connotations of being "slow, rigid, expensive." He notes, "Digit's not an ERP is kind of the framing. We are a system of progress for a system of action." B2B category creators should identify existing category baggage and create new language that reframes the conversation around their unique value proposition. Provide framework before features: Unlike traditional ERPs that "throw a bunch of modules at you and let you fend for yourself," Digit starts with a comprehensive framework showing companies exactly what they should be doing to succeed. Dan describes it as "a 10 by 10 grid like in Excel, where the hundred cells represent everything as a company you need to be doing to be great." B2B founders should lead with strategic guidance and frameworks rather than just feature sets, especially when targeting less sophisticated buyers. Leverage emerging channels for B2B vertical SaaS: Dan discovered that Reddit became one of their best lead generation engines, with communities around specific legacy systems where users complain "thread after thread." They use Reddit for both product development insights and lead generation. B2B founders should explore non-traditional channels where their target customers gather to discuss pain points, especially in vertical markets. Optimize for AI search alongside traditional SEO: Digit intentionally strategies to get mentioned across AI models like ChatGPT, Grok, and Gemini, using YC company tools to measure AI mention frequency. Dan explains they're "actively doing" this measurement on their internal scorecard. B2B founders should develop parallel strategies for traditional search and AI recommendation engines, as customer discovery patterns evolve. Build efficient teams through AI leverage: With just a two-person marketing team, Digit generates significant output using AI tools like Google's VO3 for video production and various automation tools for personalized messaging. Dan emphasizes how "revenue per employee, that metric is going way up" due to AI capabilities. B2B founders should prioritize AI-powered efficiency over headcount growth, especially in go-to-market functions.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM