

Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast
Mike DeHaan
In the 'Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast,' seasoned Real Estate experts Mike DeHaan and Dan Austin discuss how to use Real Estate to create Massive Income not just Passive Income. Real estate doesn't have to be a get-rich slow game, and by bringing over 500 successful deals worth of experience in three years, their episodes unpack the art of real estate investing, wholesaling, house flipping, and transforming properties into profitable rentals. Listen as they share uncensored insights and strategies, from compelling guest interviews revealing personal journeys and finding off-market deals to in-depth deal analyses and the latest market trends. Whether you're taking your first investment step or scaling up your portfolio, embark on your investment journey with the Collecting Keys podcast - where every episode unlocks a door that brings you one step closer to financial freedom so you can finally live the life of your dreams.
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Sep 16, 2025 • 38min
EP 457 - Why Most House Flippers Burn Out
What did you think of todays show??Can't scale? Constant rental problems? Not sure if flipping is worth your time? You might be running your business the hard way.This episode breaks down the risks of flipping (especially right now) and why so many investors burn out. We're also talking DSCR loans, why it might be a good time to refinance, and the systems we use to manage properties with a lot less stress. If your business feels reactive or stuck, this one’s for you!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Mortgage applications on the rise (04:23)Why I’m refinancing (05:03)DSCR loans and multifamily investments (08:31)How the market is affecting flips (12:24)The risks of flipping and scaling in today’s market (15:15)When flipping makes sense long-term (19:22)ADUs and luxury real estate (23:41)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Sep 9, 2025 • 42min
EP 456 - Where to Go When You Want the Best Interest Rates
What did you think of todays show??Struggling to make money in this market? This episode explores the ripple effect of a bad economy, why it's hard to find valuable assets, and of course, how it's playing out in real estate.We share why the current market is actually great for investors, how to get the best interest rates on your next loan, and the concession that’s almost required to close a wholesale deal now. Learn what today’s buyers are looking for and how to stay afloat in this market!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why lenders are calling you so much (02:01)Where to go for the best loan rates (04:12)The struggle to find valuable assets to invest in (08:41)How off-market deals impact market data (14:23)The ethics of real estate agents vs. wholesalers (17:46)Why we’re seeing more leads than ever on the MLS (20:57)The concession that helps us close more deals (21:46)What scares most people out of wholesaling (23:44)The surprising way having multiple brands helps you close deals (25:27)Debt trends and signs of impact on real estate (28:17)The future of the economy and the dollar (35:44)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Sep 2, 2025 • 37min
EP 455 - Viral Real Estate Strategies That Don’t Work
What did you think of todays show??That viral real estate post you saved? Total BS. In this episode, find out which "strategies" don’t actually work and the risky financing moves getting investors sued.We also break down the number one thing people get wrong about wholesaling, why a high ROI isn’t always as good as it sounds, and the dispo changes helping us sell or rent properties faster.Learn how to evaluate your KPIs in the current market and scale without burning cash!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The struggle to find laborers (01:03)What most investors get wrong about real estate (04:47)Buyer incentives that work (05:47)How we’re finding buyers and using the MLS (07:41)New buyer and seller behavior (11:13)DSCR loans and the risk of fraud (13:07)Fraud in the lending industry (18:21)Fake news and viral real estate "wins" (23:17)Business trends and our updated KPIs (29:54)Realistic returns in this market (35:44)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Aug 26, 2025 • 39min
EP 454 - Why Buying Real Estate Beats Buying a Business
What did you think of todays show??ROI doesn’t lie… and it’s better in real estate. In this episode, we’re breaking down why real estate is better than buying a business and what most people miss when they chase “passive” income.Hear what assets we're trusting in right now, how to make wholesaling work in this market, and the one real estate rule that never fails us. Plus, we also share the skills and decisions that keep us in business even when deals get messy.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The “jerk house” story (01:28)Refinancing a SubTo deal (05:50)Update on our condo nightmare (07:41)A seller finance deal gone wrong (09:31)How to avoid “buying wrong” (13:16)Why residential real estate is the place to invest (15:25)The ROI of wholesaling and house flips (20:23)The risks of business acquisitions and SBA loans (22:47)Why wholesaling is overlooked (and shouldn’t be) (30:28)The hardest part of running a business (35:40)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Aug 19, 2025 • 39min
EP 453 - The New Wholesaling Law That’s Changing Our Market
What did you think of todays show??When the market's a mess, how do you avoid getting burned? From fake sellers to a new law that could seriously impact your wholesale deals, this episode breaks down the risks and changes in real estate right now.Wondering if multifamily deals are still worth your time or when refinancing might be a smarter play than selling? We're talking about appraisals, lenders, and market shifts that are making even solid deals fall apart.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)A story of seller identity fraud (01:44)New BOI rules for buyers (14:11)Washington’s new wholesale law (18:34)How fraud is impacting lending (21:39)The truth about appraisal numbers (28:21)Why multifamilies aren’t selling (29:26)Selling vs. refinancing (30:38)Deals that are (and aren’t) selling right now (33:50)Would you take this deal? (34:43)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Aug 12, 2025 • 42min
EP 452 - How to Avoid the Scaling Trap in Real Estate
What did you think of todays show??Struggling to scale your business? Well, maybe you don't have to.In this episode, we’re talking about why 10x growth might not be for everyone — and when scaling actually makes sense. From the risks of scaling with debt to the marketing mistakes that can drain your profits, you'll hear the risks of scaling a wholesaling business and why we ultimately chose to scale back.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)AI hype, influencers, and business scams (02:05)Can you 10x a real estate business? (06:48)Why we stopped scaling our wholesaling business (10:43)When scaling to $10M works (13:08)The dangers of scaling with debt (18:17)The perfect size for a wholesale business (19:39)AI driving for dollars (21:45)Building long-term wealth through wholesaling (22:58)Where wholesalers fail at marketing (28:16)Marketing strategies to avoid as a new wholesaler (33:18)How low-fee wholesalers are disrupting the market (34:09)“Slow flips” and taxes (36:12)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Aug 5, 2025 • 43min
EP 451 - What to Do When The Effort Isn't Worth the Payout
What did you think of todays show??Even small deals can keep you in the game, especially in this economy. But that doesn't mean every deal is worth the effort. In this episode, we break down which deals are worth your time, when it makes sense to walk away, and why chasing quick wins won't work in this market.Hear why we take on $0 deals, why you should stop caring about interest rates, and the best size for a scalable wholesaling business.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The pros and cons of small deals (00:37)Why we do zero profit deals (04:17)Chasing bad deals (06:01)Why you should stop caring about interest rates (08:39)Affordability, debt, and real market risks (11:25)Why rates won’t go down anytime soon (16:47)How to track your business success (24:05)Long-term plays and relationship equity (26:56)Why we pivoted our business (30:51)The lending landscape is killing deals (38:57)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Jul 29, 2025 • 39min
EP 450 - New Lending Rules Making Real Estate Harder for Wholesalers
What did you think of todays show??The mortgage fraud fallout is officially here, and we’re starting to see the effects. This episode breaks down new lending requirements, our experience with appraisers, and why getting a loan is getting harder for experienced investors.We also talk about insurance loopholes that can kill your deals, how the affordability crisis is impacting our rentals, and the added pressure wholesalers are feeling in this market.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)New lending requirements (02:03)Our current appraisal struggles (04:45)Why banks are hesitant to work with wholesalers (06:51)The future of the lending landscape (09:13)How affordability issues are impacting our rentals (21:16)Why our deals are getting killed at closing (26:13)How insurance providers are making it harder to sell properties (29:45)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Jul 22, 2025 • 39min
EP 449 - A Major Mortgage Fraud Crisis is Coming — Here’s What We Know
What did you think of todays show??One wrong deal could set your business back years — especially now when cash is tight and the market can't be trusted. In this episode, we share how changes in the market have impacted our real estate business and what we're doing to protect our portfolios.From a looming mortgage fraud crackdown to COVID-19 relief programs ending, there's a lot going on. Tune in to hear where we see potential opportunities, what we're avoiding, and the number one thing you can do to survive this uncertain market!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Our Q2 performance and Q3 updates (01:06)How to make direct leads work (05:06)Balancing high returns with rising risk (06:54)The impact of COVID-19 relief programs ending (08:40)Why the buyer pool is shrinking (12:23)Why your competition is offering better deals (13:37)How to protect your business in this economy (17:57)What we know about an incoming mortgage fraud crackdown (25:02)Chasing bigger deals vs. playing it smart (31:05)Don’t make this mistake in your business right now (35:21)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

Jul 15, 2025 • 48min
EP 448 - What the Big Beautiful Bill Means for Real Estate Investors w/ Greg Helbeck
What did you think of todays show??100% bonus depreciation might be back, but don’t get too excited just yet. In this episode, Greg Helbeck joins us to break down what the “Big Beautiful Bill” could mean for investors and if it should change your real estate strategy. We also talk about flipping vs. holding in blue states right now, the strategy that cost Greg $55,000, and how we use ChatGPT to protect our deals.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Real estate advantages in the big beautiful bill (02:41)What people get wrong about bonus depreciation and taxes (06:30)Recent changes we’ve seen in the market (10:52)The strategy not working in blue states (12:38)Why finding good tenants is getting harder (15:51)How we deal with tenant removals (20:30)Our renter horror stories (26:17)Real estate 10 years ago vs. now (31:41)AI hacks for your real estate business (37:25)How we protect ourselves from buyers that flake (41:37)The value wholesalers bring to sellers (44:39)Connect with Greg Helbeck:https://www.instagram.com/grego_37/Listen to episode 420, “10 Years of Wholesaling: Greg Helbeck on What You Should Be Doing Differently in 2025” here:https://www.buzzsprout.com/1867269/episodes/16755674Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com