Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast

Mike DeHaan
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Oct 7, 2025 • 39min

EP 460 - We Left Our 7-Figure Homebuying Business

What did you think of todays show??Flipping, wholesaling, cold calling — we’ve done it all. But now, it’s time for a change.  In this episode, find out why we’ve decided to exit from our 7-figure homebuying company and what we’re doing now. Hear the moment we decided to pivot, what we’ve learned about successful partnerships, and how we’re rethinking scale, risk, and opportunity.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Is work-life balance possible? (04:13)Easy wins vs. higher profits (08:01)Dylan’s $50,000 mistake (10:01)Why we left our homebuying business (14:03)Lessons on partnerships in real estate (16:05)A key trait for real estate entrepreneurs (28:05)How co-living and Section 8 impact neighborhoods (32:02)Our competitive edge in the lending business (36:12)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Sep 30, 2025 • 45min

EP 459 - Veteran Wholesaler Calls Out Shady Tactics and Fake Gurus

What did you think of todays show??Tired of all the BS in the wholesaling? So are we. Greg Helback is back on the show to help us break down how shady operators and fake gurus are killing the industry.We get into how to beat out national wholesalers (without overbidding), what actually gives you a competitive edge in today’s market, and why doing the right thing isn’t just ethical — it’s smart business.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)How wholesaling has changed in the last decade (01:21)The biggest threat to local wholesalers (04:57)Why you shouldn’t listen to real estate gurus (07:05)Why we’re fed up with unethical wholesaling (15:42)Working with greedy wholesaling company (19:18)How shady ethics are ruining the industry (23:59)New wholesaling legislation and the future of the industry (26:02)How we avoided the real estate bubble (30:09)A wholesaler’s competitive edge (31:24)3 ways Greg stays competitive in this market (36:31)Connect with Greg Helbeck:https://www.instagram.com/grego_37/Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Sep 23, 2025 • 40min

EP 458 - How the Rich Avoid Estate Taxes – and You Can Too

What did you think of todays show??What happens to your business and your family if you're suddenly gone? No one likes to talk about it, but today we’re getting into estate planning, how to make things easier on your spouse if the unexpected happens, and what you can do now to start protecting your wealth.You'll learn how the rich avoid estate taxes, why liquidity is a major issue for most investors, and the one mistake that could force your family to sell everything.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Social media’s fear-based algorithm (01:05)Dylan’s car accident wake-up call (06:23)Estate planning for real estate investors (07:51)How the rich avoid estate taxes (10:05)Partnerships, agreements, and trusts (11:55)3 things to simplify your plan (15:40)Living frugally vs. living life to the fullest (18:40)What happened to Dylan’s business when he was out of commission (24:49)New Fed rate cuts: too little, too late? (28:51)The only people getting institutional money right now (31:55)Will Fannie and Freddie go private? (33:22)Who’s getting the best rates right now (35:09)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Sep 16, 2025 • 38min

EP 457 - Why Most House Flippers Burn Out

What did you think of todays show??Can't scale? Constant rental problems? Not sure if flipping is worth your time? You might be running your business the hard way.This episode breaks down the risks of flipping (especially right now) and why so many investors burn out. We're also talking DSCR loans, why it might be a good time to refinance, and the systems we use to manage properties with a lot less stress. If your business feels reactive or stuck, this one’s for you!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Mortgage applications on the rise (04:23)Why I’m refinancing (05:03)DSCR loans and multifamily investments (08:31)How the market is affecting flips (12:24)The risks of flipping and scaling in today’s market (15:15)When flipping makes sense long-term (19:22)ADUs and luxury real estate (23:41)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Sep 9, 2025 • 42min

EP 456 - Where to Go When You Want the Best Interest Rates

What did you think of todays show??Struggling to make money in this market? This episode explores the ripple effect of a bad economy, why it's hard to find valuable assets, and of course, how it's playing out in real estate.We share why the current market is actually great for investors, how to get the best interest rates on your next loan, and the concession that’s almost required to close a wholesale deal now. Learn what today’s buyers are looking for and how to stay afloat in this market!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why lenders are calling you so much (02:01)Where to go for the best loan rates (04:12)The struggle to find valuable assets to invest in (08:41)How off-market deals impact market data (14:23)The ethics of real estate agents vs. wholesalers (17:46)Why we’re seeing more leads than ever on the MLS (20:57)The concession that helps us close more deals (21:46)What scares most people out of wholesaling (23:44)The surprising way having multiple brands helps you close deals (25:27)Debt trends and signs of impact on real estate (28:17)The future of the economy and the dollar (35:44)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Sep 2, 2025 • 37min

EP 455 - Viral Real Estate Strategies That Don’t Work

What did you think of todays show??That viral real estate post you saved? Total BS. In this episode, find out which "strategies" don’t actually work and the risky financing moves getting investors sued.We also break down the number one thing people get wrong about wholesaling, why a high ROI isn’t always as good as it sounds, and the dispo changes helping us sell or rent properties faster.Learn how to evaluate your KPIs in the current market and scale without burning cash!Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The struggle to find laborers (01:03)What most investors get wrong about real estate (04:47)Buyer incentives that work (05:47)How we’re finding buyers and using the MLS (07:41)New buyer and seller behavior (11:13)DSCR loans and the risk of fraud (13:07)Fraud in the lending industry (18:21)Fake news and viral real estate "wins" (23:17)Business trends and our updated KPIs (29:54)Realistic returns in this market (35:44)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Aug 26, 2025 • 39min

EP 454 - Why Buying Real Estate Beats Buying a Business

What did you think of todays show??ROI doesn’t lie… and it’s better in real estate. In this episode, we’re breaking down why real estate is better than buying a business and what most people miss when they chase “passive” income.Hear what assets we're trusting in right now, how to make wholesaling work in this market, and the one real estate rule that never fails us. Plus, we also share the skills and decisions that keep us in business even when deals get messy.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The “jerk house” story (01:28)Refinancing a SubTo deal (05:50)Update on our condo nightmare (07:41)A seller finance deal gone wrong (09:31)How to avoid “buying wrong” (13:16)Why residential real estate is the place to invest (15:25)The ROI of wholesaling and house flips (20:23)The risks of business acquisitions and SBA loans (22:47)Why wholesaling is overlooked (and shouldn’t be) (30:28)The hardest part of running a business (35:40)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Aug 19, 2025 • 39min

EP 453 - The New Wholesaling Law That’s Changing Our Market

What did you think of todays show??When the market's a mess, how do you avoid getting burned? From fake sellers to a new law that could seriously impact your wholesale deals, this episode breaks down the risks and changes in real estate right now.Wondering if multifamily deals are still worth your time or when refinancing might be a smarter play than selling? We're talking about appraisals, lenders, and market shifts that are making even solid deals fall apart.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)A story of seller identity fraud (01:44)New BOI rules for buyers (14:11)Washington’s new wholesale law (18:34)How fraud is impacting lending (21:39)The truth about appraisal numbers (28:21)Why multifamilies aren’t selling (29:26)Selling vs. refinancing (30:38)Deals that are (and aren’t) selling right now (33:50)Would you take this deal? (34:43)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Aug 12, 2025 • 42min

EP 452 - How to Avoid the Scaling Trap in Real Estate

What did you think of todays show??Struggling to scale your business? Well, maybe you don't have to.In this episode, we’re talking about why 10x growth might not be for everyone — and when scaling actually makes sense. From the risks of scaling with debt to the marketing mistakes that can drain your profits, you'll hear the risks of scaling a wholesaling business and why we ultimately chose to scale back.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)AI hype, influencers, and business scams (02:05)Can you 10x a real estate business? (06:48)Why we stopped scaling our wholesaling business (10:43)When scaling to $10M works (13:08)The dangers of scaling with debt (18:17)The perfect size for a wholesale business (19:39)AI driving for dollars (21:45)Building long-term wealth through wholesaling (22:58)Where wholesalers fail at marketing (28:16)Marketing strategies to avoid as a new wholesaler (33:18)How low-fee wholesalers are disrupting the market (34:09)“Slow flips” and taxes (36:12)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
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Aug 5, 2025 • 43min

EP 451 - What to Do When The Effort Isn't Worth the Payout

What did you think of todays show??Even small deals can keep you in the game, especially in this economy. But that doesn't mean every deal is worth the effort. In this episode, we break down which deals are worth your time, when it makes sense to walk away, and why chasing quick wins won't work in this market.Hear why we take on $0 deals, why you should stop caring about interest rates, and the best size for a scalable wholesaling business.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The pros and cons of small deals (00:37)Why we do zero profit deals (04:17)Chasing bad deals (06:01)Why you should stop caring about interest rates (08:39)Affordability, debt, and real market risks (11:25)Why rates won’t go down anytime soon (16:47)How to track your business success (24:05)Long-term plays and relationship equity (26:56)Why we pivoted our business (30:51)The lending landscape is killing deals (38:57)Learn more about the Collecting Keys SCALE Community! https://collectingkeys.com/scale/Check out the FREE Collecting Keys “Invest Anywhere” Guide to learn how to find deals in ANY MARKET Completely virtually (this is how we scaled to over a dozen markets)!https://instantinvestor.collectingkeys.com/invest-anywhereFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

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