Futurology

Pico Iyer, a renowned travel writer known for his insights on culture and the inner journey, joins Nathan Gardels, co-founder of the Berggruen Institute. They discuss how globalization has complicated identities, revealing the clash of civilizations. Iyer emphasizes that wisdom often lies in embracing uncertainty rather than seeking certainty. They explore the synergy of science and spirituality, mindfulness in the present moment, and the transformative power of loss, ultimately promoting a deeper understanding of interconnectedness and the beauty of life’s impermanence.

Each and every image of the cosmos is an act of interpretation. Scientists collaborate with artists and illustrators to saturate the colorless data of distant nebulae and galaxies and invoke awe. They rotate images, signalling which way is up in a void where ‘up’ does not exist. They make up for the shortcomings of our perception with the power of our imagination. In this episode, space historian Lois Rosson joins Claire Webb to examine the hidden politics of how we picture the universe. What we see in the stars is never just out there. It’s also a projection of what we’re going through here on Earth. From frontier nostalgia to government propaganda and corporate branding to the increasing role of AI in depicting the unknown, space imagery dictates what destiny humanity will manifest.

For decades, world leaders told us that global trade would keep the peace. Markets would bind nations together, and economic interdependence would make conflict too costly to pursue. That logic shaped the global institutions of the late twentieth century and defined the worldview of Pascal Lamy, former head of the World Trade Organization. In this episode, Lamy sits down with Lorenzo Marsili, the director of the Berggruen Institute-Europe to reflect on why that promise can't be kept. From the collapse of the WTO consensus to the rise of U.S.–China rivalry, from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine to the splintering of the internet, he explains why globalization can no longer guarantee harmony and what a world order governed by “precautionism” that prioritizes a Planetary commons might offer instead.

In this engaging conversation, Nicolas Berggruen, a visionary investor and co-founder of the Berggruen Institute, and Nathan Gardels, a seasoned journalist and thinker, explore the power of transformative ideas in shaping our future. They discuss the inspiration behind their think tank, focusing on innovative governance models and wealth redistribution. The duo highlights the importance of bridging Eastern and Western philosophies, advocating for holistic approaches to democracy and climate challenges. Their insights reveal how philosophical thinking can drive meaningful change in today's complex world.

The liberal world order was built for a different era — more centralized, more hierarchical, more predictable. In the 21st century, power has gone fluid. It flows through supply chains and satellites, networks and platforms, alliances that shift issue by issue. In this episode, policy thinker Anne-Marie Slaughter joins Nathan Gardels to map a world no longer defined by blocs, but by webs. From climate cooperation to civilizational conflict, from multipolar diplomacy to local democratic renewal, they explore what comes after the end of the nation-state’s monopoly on the future.

The ever-branching network of lakes, rivers, and streams that flow west from the Rockies enable human life to flourish in one of the hottest places on Earth. This is a “cyborg watershed” – part natural, part machine, and wholly entangled with the myths and machinery of the region. In this episode, LA-based artist Lauren Bon joins Futurology producer Grant Slater to trace the path of her large-scale artworks that intervene in that system, blurring the lines between art, engineering, and activism. The conversation moves through buried waterways, the choreography of permits and politics, and the search for a civic identity grounded in the flow of water rather than the lines on a map.

Rana Dasgupta, a writer investigating the fading liberal order, teams up with Jonathan Blake, a political scientist focused on global governance, to discuss the unraveling of the nation-state. They delve into how national identity is evolving amidst climate change and digital connectivity. The duo explores the historical ties between state and religion, the necessity of adaptable governance structures, and the potential for transnational identities to promote global harmony. Their conversation is a thought-provoking reflection on belonging in a chaotic world.

Thomas Moynihan, a historian focused on human extinction, teams up with Benjamin Bratton, a philosopher of technology. Together, they explore how humanity's understanding of time and extinction has evolved, shifting from religious prophecies to scientific realities. They discuss the cosmic significance of extinction, the ethical implications of AI and planetary intelligence, and how these ideas change our obligations to future generations. Their conversation dives deep into the interconnectedness of life and technology, urging listeners to rethink existence and responsibility.

In the 21st century, Silicon Valley has coded into existence a vast memetic machinery — a self-replicating ecosystem of feedback loops, default settings, and algorithms now steering society at scale. Increasingly, it appears this emergent cyberocracy no longer wants to disrupt the world, but to govern it. In this episode, veteran journalist John Markoff teases out novel strands of thought that are increasingly embedded in the DNA of Washington, DC. From Palo Alto to the Pentagon, from Burning Man to the Beltway, we must reckon with a new networked system of systems where power flows through their servers, not the Senate.

On America’s 250th birthday, historian Niall Ferguson suggests that the US has reached an age when most republics fizzle out. Donald Trump’s rise is merely a symptom of this late-stage unspooling of an empire that America could never quite escape. In this episode, Ferguson tells the story of a republic that burns hot, forgets fast, and could smolder on the ash heap of history sooner than we expect in the face of a second Cold War that has already begun with a more formidable and AI-empowered foe.