

The Third Story with Leo Sidran
Leo Sidran
THE THIRD STORY features long-form interviews with creative people of all types, hosted by musician Leo Sidran. Their stories of discovery, loss, ambition, identity, risk, and reward are deeply moving and compelling for all of us as we embark on our own creative journeys.
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Oct 8, 2015 • 56min
41: Creed Taylor, Record producer at the crossroad of history and good taste
For forty years, Creed Taylor was one of a small handful of jazz record producers and label managers who shaped and defined the sound of jazz recording. Through his work with the Bethlehem, ABC, Impulse!, Verve, and CTI labels, he produced classic albums for countless artists. He introduced us to “The Girl From Ipanema”, “Mister Magic” and showed us “The Blues and the Abstract Truth”.
He produced both hits and critically acclaimed albums, and his sound defined an era. He made the history (for us to study), set the bar (for us to dance on), and paved the road (that many are still on). Needless to say, I was very excited to talk to him!
We met at his apartment on the upper east side of Manhattan and talked about some of his most memorable experiences. One idea that emerged from our conversation is that you can’t always tell who a person is from the music they make, and people are not always who we imagine them to be.

Sep 24, 2015 • 1h 15min
40: Howard Levy, Harmonica Player on How Rhythm, Melody, & Light are all the same thing
Howard Levy has one of the most inquisitive musical minds of anyone around. He’s an accomplished piano player, and a musical fixture on the Chicago music scene, but the thing that he’s most known for is his astounding harmonica playing and innovative technique.
Here he talks to Leo and Ben Sidran about his journey out of New York, to the city of wide shoulders and open spaces, and how living in Chicago influenced his development, gave him room to think and create, and eventually come to some very special conclusions about the nature of sound, light, rhythm, melody, and maybe even life itself.
Oh, and he also explains how the harmonica works and why the Germans accidentally invented the perfect blues instrument.

Sep 9, 2015 • 1h 8min
39: Musicians behind Late Show with Stephen Colbert
This week, Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show” begins, replacing David Letterman and starting a new tradition for late night television. Colbert chose young powerhouse pianist Jon Batiste to lead his band, and Batiste in turn selectedMichael Thurber to play bass in the band.
I've talked with both Batiste and Thurber for this podcast in the past, discussing their early musical development and general outlook on music today. In celebration of The Late Show's kickoff, I compiled some highlights from our previous conversations, as well as a conversation I had with Will Lee, the veteran Late Show bassist from Letterman's band.
I also had a chance to catch up with both Will Lee and Michael Thurber this week to find out what they’re thinking about right now. For Will, after playing for over 30 years on the Letterman show, he feels a new sense of freedom in his schedule and career. For Thurber, there’s a sense of excitement and uncertainty about the next phase of his life and the evolution of the new show.
Individually, each conversation offers an enlightening look into the personal journeys all artists take, the difficult choices they must make, and the overall sense of wonder about life that they all share.
Taken as a whole, to me they paint an incredibly inspirational picture of how to approach life and art.
All three are extremely generous and open people, and their openness, candor and generosity point to a larger truth about success in the arts: when you work on your craft, you are really working on yourself. It’s not that art imitates life; art is life.

Aug 27, 2015 • 1h
38: Addicted To Living In the Present Moment - The Trade Winds project
The Triangle Trade route connected the old world to the new world, sending slaves from west Africa to the Americas, and goods from the Americas back to Europe and even to Africa.
How did it profoundly influence the music and culture of each stop along the way?
Bassist Matt Geraghty and Saxophonist Ze Luis have been traveling to port cities (New Orleans, San Juan, Havana) to find out. It's part of their compelling video series, the 21 Trade Winds project. Both musicians have made names for themselves in the jazz and world music communities, Matt with his personal projects, and Ze as a sideman and producer for notable Brazilian artists like Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil.
I was struck by the intensity of the experience, and by the general positivity among musicians. I was particularly curious to talk about what effect the experience has had on Matt and Ze’s lives outside of the project.
Listen on and hear how, as Zé says, “It’s all about NOW and it’s all about US…and living in the present for long enough is like an addiction.”

Aug 13, 2015 • 46min
37: Inspiration Comes from Life at the Newport Jazz Festival
Ben Sidran and I spent three days at the Newport Jazz Festival, checking
out the music, hanging with musicians and trying to find a lobster roll.
During the course of the weekend, we connected with some wonderful jazz
personalities, including Jon Batiste, Dr. John, Jason Lindner, Maria
Schneider, Jose James, James Carter, Jamie Cullum, David Hazeltine, and Bob
Dorough. Each of them helped us to paint the picture of real life as it
comes into contact with a career in music.

Jul 30, 2015 • 59min
36: George Wein at 90 - Looking forward to the future
George Wein opened his first jazz club, Storyville, in the early 1950s when
he was a young man. He then created the Newport Jazz Festival in 1954. The
festival became an icon among music festivals and influenced the way music
was presented around the world.

Jul 16, 2015 • 1h 1min
35: Welcome to Copenhagen
Roam in and out of Copenhagen jazz clubs with me and my father, Ben Sidran.
With microphones in hand, we interviewed all sorts of musicians, wondering
aloud about the future of the music. A window into my world.

Jul 2, 2015 • 1h 1min
34: He started the website that you can't stop reading. Meet Peter Koechley.
The viral content website Upworthy launched in 2012 with an emphasis on
simple and transformational storytelling. It had an immediate impact online
and quickly influenced many other sites in the way they shared stories.
Peter Koechley explains their philosophy, why they focus on empathy, and
how he came to co-found the influential site.

Jun 18, 2015 • 1h
33: Tommy LiPuma with Al Schmitt, Steve Gadd, Larry Goldings, Jacob Collier and Dean Parks
The conversation is a fascinating glimpse into both the golden age of
recording and modern music production approaches, which also highlights how
important relationships and trust are to building a career in music (or any
industry).

Jun 3, 2015 • 1h 1min
32: Sachal "I have a power to make my words count"
Singer Sachal on connecting with an audience, integrating technology into
organic music, and the importance of lyrics.