
The Sacred
The Sacred is a podcast about our deepest values, the stories that shape us and how we can build empathy and understanding between people who are very different.
Each episode features a conversation with someone who has a public voice, from academics to journalists, playwrights and politicians. We ask them where they have come from, what they are trying to do and what might help heal our very divided public conversations.
The Sacred is hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield, former director of Theos.
For more information about the people and ideas behind the podcast, visit https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/about/who-we-are or follow us on Twitter @theosthinktank, @sacred_podcast and @ESOldfield.
Latest episodes

May 29, 2024 • 55min
Gretchen Rubin on How to Find Happiness in the Ordinary
In this episode, Gretchen speaks about her love of children's literature, why St Therese of Lisieux is her spiritual teacher, and why we might need a seminary for accidental gurus.
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💡 Produced by the Theos Think Tank: www.theosthinktank.co.uk/
✨ Find out more about Gretchen's work: https://gretchenrubin.com/

May 22, 2024 • 38min
How to Become Fully Alive with Elizabeth Oldfield
Elizabeth Oldfield, writer and host of The Sacred podcast, alongside The Sacred producer Daniel Turner introduce a brand new series of The Sacred. Themed around her latest book ‘Fully Alive’, Elizabeth speaks about finding steadiness in our turbulent times, community and the desperate need for a rebranding of the word ‘sin’. She also discusses her hopes and fears for the release of her book.
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💡 Produced by the Theos Think Tank: www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

Apr 3, 2024 • 18min
Elizabeth Oldfield on Values, Vulnerability, and the Limitations of Social Media
The podcast reflects on conversations about values with guests like Greg Wise and Chris Packham. They explore vulnerability, childhood influences, and the impact of social media on values. Themes of fully aliveness, authenticity, and online spaces are discussed.

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Mar 27, 2024 • 1h 19min
Jonathan Haidt on Religion, Psychedelics and the Anxious Generation
Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt discusses truth, atheism, psychedelics, and overprotection of children in physical vs. digital spaces. He highlights the importance of understanding diverse perspectives, embracing a centrist position, and engaging with differing viewpoints in academia. Jonathan also explores ethical challenges in research, brain hemisphere dynamics, spirituality, and the role of communication in creating a connected society.

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Mar 20, 2024 • 56min
Sunder Katwala on Race, Identity and Reimagining Patriotism
Sunder Katwala is the Director of the think tank, British Future. who have worked on issues such as immigration and identity. He was formerly General Secretary of the Fabian Society, and before that, he was a journalist and a leader writer for The Observer.
Sunder spoke about growing up Irish Catholic, why he's broadly optimistic about the trajectory around race and identity in the UK, and why football is so central to who he is.
You can buy Sunder's book How to be a Patriot here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Patriot-country-British-culture/dp/0008553866#:~:text=Book%20overview&text=How%20to%20be%20a%20Patriot%20offers%20a%20new%20way%20of,some%20questions%20to%20work%20through.
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/03/20/sunder-katwala-on-race-identity-and-reimagining-patriotism
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CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185

Mar 13, 2024 • 56min
Elizabeth Alker on Fairness, Foster Care, and Accent Stigma
Elizabeth Alker is a BBC Radio 3 presenter, and previously spent several years working at BBC Radio 6 Music.
Elizabeth spoke about growing up with parents who fostered, the role of faith in her life, fairness as a sacred value and her reflections on being northern.
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/03/13/elizabeth-alker-on-fairness-foster-care-and-accent-stigma
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CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185

Mar 6, 2024 • 1h 4min
Freddie Sayers on Political Tribalism and Questioning the Status Quo
Freddie Sayers is Editor-in-Chief of UnHerd and host of the podcast UnHerd with Freddie Sayers. He was the former Editor-in-Chief of YouGov and founder of Politics Home.
Freddie spoke about his sacred value of beauty, his unconventional path into political journalism, why he began to question some of the underlying logic and culture of liberalism, his outspoken criticism of lockdown policy's during COVID-19, and how he navigates being unorthodox and questioning without descending into tribalism.
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/03/06/freddie-sayers-on-political-tribalism-and-questioning-the-status-quo
** Listen to Freddie's podcast UnHerd with Freddie Sayers here https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/unherd-with-freddie-sayers/id1540134798
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CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185

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Feb 28, 2024 • 1h 11min
Katherine May on Everyday Wonder and How to Not Be a Guru
Katherine May is the author of multiple books, both fiction and memoir, including the much celebrated Wintering and The Electricity of Every Living Thing. She most recently authored the book Enchantment: Reawakening Wonder in an Exhausted Age, and is the host of the very popular podcast How We Live Now.
Katherine spoke about seasons of life, finding wonder in the everyday, class, autism, the weirdness of becoming a 'person of wisdom' to many and how to avoid becoming an internet guru.
** You can buy a copy of Katherine's book 'Enchantment' here: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571378357-enchantment/ **
** And check out her podcast How We Live Now here: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-we-live-now-with-katherine-may/id1516642192 **
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/02/28/katherine-may-on-everyday-wonder-and-how-to-not-be-a-guru
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CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185

Feb 21, 2024 • 1h 10min
Chris Packham on Love, Grief, and Autism
Chris Packham is a naturalist, nature photographer and TV Presenter best known for his 40 years of work in television on programmes such as CBBC's The Really Wild Show and the BBC's Springwatch.
Chris spoke about his childhood, and the challenges of growing up with undiagnosed autism, the influence punk had, and has, on him, and experiences of religious diversity in the home.
Find out more about Chris' work by visiting his website here: https://www.chrispackham.co.uk/
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/02/21/chris-packham-on-love-grief-and-autism
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CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185

Feb 14, 2024 • 1h 17min
Clementine Morrigan on Trauma, Alcohol Recovery, and Challenging Cancel Culture from the Left
*Content Note*
This episode briefly touches on early chapters of Clementine's life where she was sexually abused as a minor. Listener caution, especially if listening with young children around, is advised.
Clementine Morrigan is a writer and podcaster known for her active challenging of cancel culture from a leftist perspective. After her own cancellation in 2020 she began the Fucking Cancelled podcast with Jay Lesoleil, which looks to critique cancel culture, identitarianism, and 'social justice' orthodoxy.
Clementine spoke about her upbringing, how abuse and bullying sent her down a path of alcoholism at a young age, her recovery through Alcoholics Anonymous, what the 12 steps taught her about human dignity and forgiveness, and why that message left her at odds with 'cancel culture'.
You can listen to Fucking Cancelled here: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/fucking-cancelled/id1549437914
You can read more from Clementine here: https://www.clementinemorrigan.com/
You can follow Clementine on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/clementinemorrigan/?hl=en
Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2024/02/14/clementine-morrigan-on-trauma-alcohol-recovery-and-challenging-cancel-culture-from-the-left
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The Sacred is a podcast produced by the think tank Theos. Be sure to connect with us below to stay up-to-date with all our content, research and events.
CONNECT WITH THE SACRED
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CONNECT WITH ELIZABETH OLDFIELD
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Website: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/
CHECK OUT OUR PODCASTS
The Sacred: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-sacred/id1326888108
Reading Our Times: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reading-our-times/id1530952185