
The Sacred
The Sacred is a podcast about our deepest values, the stories that shape us and how we can build empathy and understanding between people who are very different.
Each episode features a conversation with someone who has a public voice, from academics to journalists, playwrights and politicians. We ask them where they have come from, what they are trying to do and what might help heal our very divided public conversations.
The Sacred is hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield, former director of Theos.
For more information about the people and ideas behind the podcast, visit https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/about/who-we-are or follow us on Twitter @theosthinktank, @sacred_podcast and @ESOldfield.
Latest episodes

Oct 2, 2024 • 1h 21min
The Rise of Tarot, Astrology and New Age Spirituality with Psychic Dr Kate Tomas
We sit down with Dr. Kate Tomas, a philosopher and spiritual mentor, to discuss her experience as a psychic, and the rising discussion about younger generations and New Age/spiritual practices.
Elizabeth Oldfield speaks to Kate about her upbringing and what led her to psychic work, how 'intuitive wisdom' is used by many of the world's wealthiest people, why young people are drawn to astrology and tarot, and how the lack of accountability may leave room for harm.
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💡 Produced by the @thinktanktheos www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

Sep 25, 2024 • 55min
Can We Have Empathy in the Face of Evil? With Gwen Adshead
Dr. Gwen Adshead, a forensic psychologist and psychotherapist, shares her transformative insights on empathy and human complexity. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing our shared humanity, even in the face of evil. Adshead discusses radical compassion, highlighting our interconnectedness and the moral nuances of human behavior. She also delves into the role of spirituality in mental health care, advocating for a compassionate approach that balances understanding with justice. Her perspective encourages listeners to explore the sacred within the darkest human experiences.

Aug 28, 2024 • 54min
What Does It Mean To Live Vulnerably? With Philosopher Sam Kimbriel
In a deep conversation with Elizabeth Oldfield, political philosopher Sam Kimbriel explores how nature influences our worldview and the loneliness epidemic gripping modern society. He emphasizes the profound value of vulnerable friendships and the necessity of engaging with our limitations. Kimbriel argues that philosophy should be accessible and relevant, especially post-COVID, serving as a tool for personal and societal growth. The discussion also highlights the transformative power of meaningful connections amidst a backdrop of individualism and superficial interactions.

Jul 25, 2024 • 1min
Help Shape The Sacred Podcast: Take Our Quick Survey!
The podcast hosts engage with listeners through a survey to gather feedback on the show's impact and areas for improvement during the summer hiatus. Listeners are encouraged to share their insights on what they find sacred and how the podcast has influenced them.

Jul 17, 2024 • 44min
Two Couples, One Roof: The Power of Communal Living
Exploring the benefits and challenges of communal living, focusing on interdependence, vulnerability, and shared experiences to combat loneliness and foster deep connections. Reflecting on the moral implications of housing ownership and gentrification, and embracing trust, love, and mutual assistance within a community setting.

Jul 10, 2024 • 58min
Tim Dixon: Finding Common Ground in a Polarised World
In this episode, Elizabeth Oldfield interviewed Tim Dixon about the limitations of politics in creating change, the tragic death of friend Jo Cox, and the importance of addressing the issue of polarisation and division in politics.
Tim Dixon is a social entrepreneur and the co-founder of More in Common, an organisation, in the US, UK, Germany and France, that is working to unite our increasing polarised and fragmented societies.
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📖 Follow Elizabeth Oldfield: www.elizabetholdfield.com/
💡 Produced by the @thinktanktheos www.theosthinktank.co.uk/
✨ Find out more about Tim's work: https://x.com/dixontim

Jul 3, 2024 • 53min
Subverting Culture Through Art with Lakwena Maciver
Elizabeth Oldfield speaks to Lakwena Maciver about processing emotions, navigating comparison and using her artwork to speak powerful messages to herself and wider culture.
Lakwena is a London-based artist who combines colour and bold text to inspire joy and the gentle subversion of cultural messaging. Her work has been shown internationally with brands such as H&M, Fiorucci & Mini, and at institutions including the Tate Modern, Somerset House, and the Rotterdam Kunsthal.
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📖 Follow Elizabeth Oldfield: www.elizabetholdfield.com/
💡 Produced by the @thinktanktheos www.theosthinktank.co.uk/
✨ Find out more about Lakwena's work: https://www.lakwena.com/

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Jun 26, 2024 • 1h 14min
Peter Hitchens: Is Post-God Britain Beyond Saving?
Conservative journalist Peter Hitchens discusses his journey from socialism to conservatism, the role of journalism in shaping opinions, and his unexpected encounter with God. The conversation explores societal shifts, personal evolution, and reflections on sacred values and principles.

Jun 19, 2024 • 45min
Caroline Lucas: Could Imagination Solve Our Political and Climate Crisis?
Former Green Party leader, Caroline Lucas, discusses the role of imagination and spirituality in addressing the climate crisis. She also explores redefining English identity, challenging societal norms on happiness and consumerism, and reflecting on death as a transformative life moment.

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Jun 12, 2024 • 59min
Leading Psychologist on The Transformative Power of Awe
Dacher Keltner, a Berkeley psychology professor and leading Emotion Scientist, shares insights on the profound effects of awe in our lives. He discusses how awe can counter feelings of gluttony and disconnection, promoting emotional awareness and deeper relationships. Keltner reflects on the transformative power of moral beauty, emphasizing interconnectedness in a chaotic world. He explores the role of trauma, community, and personal values in shaping our understanding of self and the necessity of fostering genuine relationships for healing and fulfillment.
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