
Reversing Climate Change
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Reversing Climate Change is a podcast that bridges science, technology, and policy with the richness of the humanities. From the forefront of carbon removal and climatetech to explorations of literature, history, philosophy, and geopolitics, we dive deep into the people, ideas, and innovations shaping a better future for the planet and its inhabitants.
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Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 1min
342: Carbon Removal & Appropriations: The US Budget During Trump 2—w/ Erin Burns, Executive Director of Carbon180
Sometimes, we skip right over the life stories of guests. Othertimes, it's everything. Today, it's everything.Returning to the show after several years is Carbon180's Executive Director, Erin Burns.Erin grew up in a coal mining family in West Virginia, got her start in Joe Manchin's Senate office, and has had a long and impactful career in carbon removal.Today, Erin (re)explains how the budgeting process works in the United States federal government and how the appropriations process intersects with it. What is the difference, and where can voters get involved?This is truly an improvised masterclass in civics education. Listen up for what you missed in high school, and how it will impact the future of carbon removal.This Episode's SponsorsOffstreamArbonicsListen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from ArbonicsResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeCarbon180ScripCompany town"The Appropriations Process: A Brief Overview", a CRS ProductCarbon180's Carbon Removal Funding Tracker"The Ghost of Tom Joad" by Bruce Springsteen"Which Side Are You On?" by Pete Seeger"There is Power in a Union" by Utah Phillips (originally by Joe Hill)Harlan County, U.S.A.

Mar 25, 2025 • 27min
341: The War Below: Critical Minerals, YIMBY for Mining, & the Trade War—w/ Ernest Scheyder, author & journalist
The clean energy transition sure needs a heck of a lot of mining. What do we do when there are environmental or spiritual costs to getting the materials we need for EVs and batteries? Ernest Scheyder is a Reuters reporter covering critical minerals, and the author of The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives.His reporting strives to let audiences draw their own conclusions about where the line should be on environmental extraction, which is a rarer approach than maybe meets the eye.Tune in to also learn where the political battles of the second Trump Administration over critical minerals in Ukraine and clean energy politics at home may lead, and what we should keep our eyes on in the future.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeErnest Scheyder's websiteErnest's reporting at ReutersThe War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our LivesThe Irresponsible Pursuit of Paradise by Jim L. BowyerFollow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn

Mar 21, 2025 • 14min
The Keynesian Beauty Contest: Product-Market Fit in Climatetech & CDR
Nearly a decade ago, I was introduced to the concept of the Keynesian Beauty Contest. It is one of those concepts that I keep coming back to time and time again.I recently participated in a two-month Product-Market Fit workshop led by Peter Nocchiero of Alternate Future and Koray Parmaks of Carbon Zero Capital. So I've been living and breathing PMF.Here is a short monologue bonus video episode where I talk about the Product-Market Fit issues of climatetech and carbon removal, a now-outdated reference to how TSLA bears kept getting crushed, and relate them to my experiences as a founder of the Nori carbon removal marketplace.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeThe Keynesian Beauty Contest on WikipediaPeter Nocchiero's Alternate FutureCarbon Zero CapitalFollow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn

Mar 18, 2025 • 46min
340: The Outlaw Ocean: Ocean Iron Fertilization, Seasteading, & the Chilling of American Journalism—w/ Ian Urbina, The Outlaw Ocean Project
I first heard the idiom "worse things happen at sea" in Monty Python's Life of Brian, and it's true.Ian Urbina has made a career of telling stories of the ocean. From piracy, illegal fishing, and sea slavery to seasteading and rogue carbon removal experiments, he's covered the gamut.How does one continuously report on topics of concern to relatively intimidating people? As the old line goes, "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed; everything else is public relations."In today's episode, Ian and host Ross Kenyon discuss these topics, but also broader questions of what is happening to journalism in a political environment where retaliation feels very possible.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeThe Outlaw Ocean: Journeys Across the World's Last Untamed Frontier by Ian UrbinaThe Outlaw Ocean ProjectFollow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn

Mar 11, 2025 • 55min
339: A Good Drink: In Search of Sustainable Spirits—w/ Shanna Farrell, author
For fans ages 21 and up!It's often hard to know how sustainable or ethical an alcoholic drink is. Very little disclosure is required on most labels, and many of the recipes are proprietary. What is a conscientious drinker to do?Shanna Farrell wrote A Good Drink: In Search of Sustainable Spirits in order to answer this exact question.She and host Ross Kenyon discuss the strange world of amaros (or "amari" if you're really going for it!), whiskey, agave, and gin, and try to figure out how to even begin approaching this difficult consumptive choice.N.B. If you really want to nerd out on amaro taxonomy, Brad Thomas Parsons's books on amaro and bitters are both quite useful; linked below.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeA Good Drink: In Search of Sustainable Spirits by Shanna FarrellShanna Farrell's websiteAmaro: The Spirited World of Bittersweet, Herbal Liqueurs by Brad Thomas ParsonsCrushed: How A Changing Climate Is Altering the Way We Drink by Brian FreedmanFollow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn

Mar 4, 2025 • 51min
338: Carbon Security & the Geopolitics of Carbon Removal—w/ Sarah Godek
What is geopolitics, and has it returned? Did it ever really leave? And how will this affect the future prospects of carbon removal?Today's guest is Sarah Godek, a Washington DC-based international relations researcher. She and Grant Faber co-wrote an article on Carbon-Based Commentary called, "Carbon security and the geopolitics of carbon removal".We discuss the tension between strategic liberalism and realism, how the world is changing under the second Trump Administration, as well as if and how the Great Game is currently being played and what implications that has for climate change and CDR.N.B. Regarding the point about Eastern Europe in the introduction, much of my reading on the region has highlighted its former status as a bustling and fervent cultural mixing place. I think I was a bit too subtle in pointing to this understanding. See: A History of Eastern Europe from The Great Courses, or Shtetl by Eva Hoffman.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change"Carbon security and the geopolitics of carbon removal"Graham Allison's Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap?Robert Axelrod's The Evolution of Cooperation Kevin Rudd's The Avoidable War: The Dangers of a Catastrophic Conflict between the US and Xi Jinping's ChinaJohn Pomfret's The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom: America and China, 1776 to the PresentTencent's CarbonX programRaj M. Shah & Christopher Kirchhoff's Unit X: How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley Are Transforming the Future of WarGo watch In the Loop, Veep, and The Death of Stalin.

Mar 2, 2025 • 15min
I Made AI-Generated Art and Now I’m Wondering What Is Art Even for?
My podcasting editing platform Descript informed me of a new integration with ChatGPT where it would make me a custom video. I complied in perhaps the most annoying and meta way possible.That video exists at the end of this podcast, but first, I have thoughts I'd like to share on what this process made me feel and think about.I've heard so many takes on artificial intelligence and art, and I have several of my own that I don't often hear reflected. Mine pertain to the sociological purpose of art, and of developing aesthetic talent on the road to greatness.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeUse my referral link to become a user of Descript for podcast editing, transcription, and now AI-generated video content.

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Feb 24, 2025 • 55min
337: Fired from the Department of Energy: Carbon Removal's DOGE Night of the Soul—w/ Grant Faber, Carbon-Based Consulting
When you take a major pay cut to work in government, you don't expect unceremoniously fired by the Department of Government Efficiency with a change in administration. But it happened to friend of the show, Grant Faber.Grant Faber was the United States Department of Energy's Direct Air Capture Hubs Program Manager until he was let go as part of the recent firing of probationary federal employees.In today's episode, Grant explains what he was working on, what it was like being at the DoE during this turbulent time of Trump 2 & DOGE, and what it means for carbon removal, the climate, and the United States moving forward.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeListen to The CDR Policy Scoop episode with Noah DeichGrant's SubstackGrant's recent RCC episode on coproduction and additionalityDon't make me link to the ASMR deportation videoThere are a bunch of episodes I've made with thoughtful conservatives. Poke around the catalog if you'd like. I'll add some more links later if I have the heart to do it.Russell Vought, Director of the Office of Management and Budget (I mistakenly say OEM in the show): "We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected... When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can't do all of the rules against our energy industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do so...We want to put them in trauma."

Feb 20, 2025 • 28min
Will You Join the AirMiners Buyers Club?—w/ Adina Mangubat & Tito Jankowski, AirMiners
There are a lot of companies that want to buy carbon removal and don't have the budget to participate in Frontier or Symbiosis. What are they to do?Until now, they either had to pay expensive consultants or vet projects and contracts themselves and stand by their choices alone. No longer!The new AirMiners Buyers Club could not be arriving at a better time. Federal policy for carbon removal is in an extremely turbulent moment. Buying momentum is not growing to the degree that we need to see. The AirMiners Buyers Club aims to solve for the missing middle of carbon removal buyers.Do you work at (or know someone who works at) a company that could be passionate about supporting cutting-edge carbon removal companies? Are you a high-net-worth individual? Involved in philanthropy? If so, please reach out to Tito Jankowski directly (tito[at]airminers.com) and see how you can work together to grow CDR during its Dark Night of the Soul.Additionally, if you personally want to support CDR in non-monetary ways, come join the so-called Rebel Alliance in AirMiners. We'd love to have you.Thank you so much for your love and support of carbon removal!ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeJoin the AirMiners Buyers Club by emailing Tito Jankowski directly: tito[at]airminers.com.Form to join the Rebel AllianceAirMiners's websiteFrontierSymbiosis

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Feb 18, 2025 • 43min
336: Will Trees Play a Role in the Future of Carbon Removal?—w/ Lisett Luik, Co-Founder of Arbonics
Seemingly nothing generates hotter passions in carbon credits than forestry. Can credits count against fossil emissions? Is there enough of it to make a difference? What is the appropriate way of funding it?Today's guest is Lisett Luik, Co-Founder and COO of Arbonics, an innovative forestry company in the Baltic that straddles the line between carbon removal and other services forests can provide.We discuss if and how forestry can fit into carbon removal, help the planet avoid tipping points, and adequately motivate land managers to employ better practices.We also play a quick game of bioenergy: friend or foe!Always more to discuss on forestry, and I doubt this show will be the final word.ResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeArbonics's website