
Going There with Dr. Mike
Sound Mind Live and Consequence of Sound present Going There. Hosted by licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Mike, the weekly series aims to create a safe space for musicians to have honest, healthy conversations about mental health. Each episode covers the experience of artists and creatives as it pertains to specific issues, be it depression, anxiety, addiction, whatever they bring to the table. In the end, the goal is to de-stigmatize these topics and learn from each other. So, join us at the crossroads where music and mental health meet.
Latest episodes

Feb 16, 2021 • 41min
Pentatonix's Kevin Olusola on the Need for Foundational Healing
Kevin Olusola of Pentatonix joins the show this week to discuss the effects stereotypes can have on mental health. He talks about the racism and anti-immigrant bias that his own parents faced and the psychological traumas he witnessed through his family. He explains how those traumas and the stereotypes he faced on his own were triggered watching the murder of George Floyd.
Later in the conversation, the singer-songwriter/producer introduces the concept of “foundational healing”, a societal healing that needs to occur to confront and address the damaging effects that stereotypes have on mental health and well-being.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Feb 9, 2021 • 45min
Jason Isbell on the Politics of Mental Health
Jason Isbell joins the show this week to discuss his struggle with alcoholism. The singer-songwriter explains how he's attained years of sobriety following his addiction, which was, in part, triggered by the stress and pain from years of touring. He shares how he's had the opportunity to engage in rehabilitation, the 12-step program, and therapy.
The Grammy-winning artist also describes his thoughts on tackling the mental health crisis on a public level, including how different economic and political systems may influence our sense of self-worth. He goes on to describe some of the changes we would need to make as a society to optimize, rather than damage, our mental health and well-being.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Feb 2, 2021 • 41min
Bully's Alicia Bognanno on Living with Bipolar II Disorder
Alicia Bognanno of Bully joins the show this week to discuss her struggle with Bipolar II disorder. The singer-songwriter explains how she experiences both hypomanic episodes and depressive episodes that were marked by paranoia and anxiety.
During these episodes, Bognanno says she would feel as if someone else had “taken the wheel.” The Sub Pop artist shares how she's learned to manage her Bipolar II with a range of strategies, including medication, therapy, exercise, and, of course, music.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Jan 19, 2021 • 42min
Julien Baker on Living with Depression and OCD
Julien Baker joins the show this week to discuss her experience struggling with depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). The singer-songwriter shares how depression often feels like a giant hole and the ways OCD manifests into perfectionism.
Elsewhere, Baker talks about the various methods she uses to cope with her depression and OCD, including exercise and even substance use. She particularly discusses how music has helped her understand, experience, and express her emotions.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Jan 12, 2021 • 50min
Dispatch on Coping with Stress and Embracing Humanity
Dispatch's Brad Corrigan and Chad Urmston joins the show this week to discuss their personal experience of coping with anxiety and depression, in addition to their experiences with bandmate Pete Heimboldt’s struggle with depression.
The Location 13 indie rockers also share how mental illness can cause stress on one’s social system, be it family, friends, or their professional network, and why we need a culture of empathy and humanity to get the support we need.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Jan 5, 2021 • 40min
Local Natives' Taylor Rice on the Useless Slog of the Pandemic
Local Natives singer-songwriter Taylor Rice joins the show this week to discuss his experience of coping with anxiety and depression during the pandemic. Many of us have lost loved ones, the opportunity for work, and the ability to see our friends and family amidst these times. Taylor wrestles with these feelings of loss, and how these stressors have impacted his overall emotional well-being.
The Sour Lemon artist goes on to talk about how we're so focused on getting through each day that we often don’t take the time to really acknowledge and mourn the loss of the life at hand. Instead, Taylor cites how he copes with the pattern of what he calls "useless slogging," where we often go on auto-pilot, not really paying attention to what we are feeling or how we’re doing.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Dec 15, 2020 • 56min
Open Mike Eagle on Living with the Mental Scarring of Trauma
Open Mike Eagle joins the show this week to discuss his experiences coping with trauma. The Chicago artist explains how trauma can occur in someone’s life through many pathways. Sometimes it's caused by a specific event (e.g. an assault or plane crash); in other cases, it's the result of an ongoing series of events (e.g. racial discrimination).
Coming off his new album Anime, Trauma, and Divorce, Open Mike Eagle also explains how trauma can result in what he describes as “mental scarring.” Thjs scarring can manifest not only in how we process information, but also in the emotional and behavioral responses that we exhibit to stressful situations in our life.
The Thirsty Fish member later talks about how the stigma of mental illness can undermine our recovery from traumatic events. He stresses how we can challenge that stigma by promoting a culture of empathy rather than pass judgment. That way people who suffer from trauma or other mental health issues can get the care they need.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Dec 8, 2020 • 51min
Brian "Head" Welch on Living with Depression, Addiction, and Self-Hatred
Brian “Head” Welch joins the show this week to discuss his struggle with mental illness. The Korn guitarist shares how a history of bullying resulted in extreme self-hatred and isolation that stayed with him throughout much of his early life. As time went on, this self-hatred contributed to an ongoing struggle with depression, which he describes as a “darkness."
The Love and Death founding member also explains that, as a child, music was one of the only things that brought him joy, and how his commitment to play music brought him to Los Angeles, where he eventually joined Korn. As the band found success as the pioneers and champions of nu metal, Welch had developed a habit of using crystal meth.
Welch explains the vicious cycle of using crystal meth and how withdrawal brought a depressive state even worse than his depression. Welch describes how he connected to a sense of spirituality as part of his recovery, which he continues to explore and express on Love and Death’s new album, Perfectly Preserved.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Dec 1, 2020 • 1h
Cherie Currie on Living with Trauma
Cherie Currie joins the show this week to discuss her experience with trauma and post-traumatic stress. The Runaways vocalist explains how she was the victim of two separate sexual assaults as a teenager, and describes how she experienced symptoms of post-traumatic stress, including anger and hostility, pervasive distrust, and emotional detachment.
The Neon Angel author recalls how she initially coped with the traumatic events, including taking pills to help her escape the difficult emotions. She later explores other forms of coping, including channeling her anger into standing up against bullies, seeking therapy, and eventually becoming a drug and alcohol counselor to help others.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.

Nov 24, 2020 • 1h 23min
Future Islands' Samuel T. Herring on Living with Depression and Addiction
Future Islands frontman Samuel T. Herring joins the show this week to share how he fell into the very dangerous and very common cycle of depression and addiction. Herring explains how this struggle has led to suicidal thoughts, a dependency on cocaine, and self-isolation, all of which has led to further depression and disconnection.
The As Long As You Are vocalist and songwriter states how he was able to explore his deepest and most frightening emotions by allowing himself to “touch the bottom” of his darkness. This, in turn, led him to accept his own negative feelings, helped him connect with people, and also express his love for others as part of his ongoing recovery.
Presented by Consequence of Sound and Sound Mind Live, Going There with Dr. Mike is a new interview podcast series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet.
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