
Defense in Depth
Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity’s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community’s insights to lead our discussion.
Latest episodes

Jun 13, 2024 • 34min
What Makes a Successful CISO?
Tomer Gershoni, CSO at Zoominfo, discusses moving beyond technology, the art of a CISO, always operating in context, and elevating the CISO conversation. The podcast emphasizes aligning security with business objectives, evolving CISO roles towards business orientation, and focusing on cybersecurity for business continuity.

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Jun 6, 2024 • 25min
We Want a Solution to Remediate, Not Just Detect Problems
Neil Watkins, SVP technology and cybersecurity services at i3 Verticals, discusses the importance of visibility in cybersecurity, emphasizing the need for practical guidance and remediation solutions. The conversation explores challenges in managing cybersecurity incidents, advocating for self-healing systems and collaboration within the industry.

May 30, 2024 • 30min
Recruiting from the Help Desk
Sasha Pereira, VP of Infrastructure and CISO at WASH, discusses the value of entry-level cybersecurity skills gained from working at the help desk. Topics include the overlooked nature of help desk experience, the ideal path to break into cybersecurity, and the importance of empathy and understanding business operations in the field.

May 23, 2024 • 29min
How Do We Build a Security Program to Thwart Deepfakes?
Russ Ayers, SVP of Cyber and Deputy CISO at Equifax, dives into the rising threat of deepfakes and their implications for security. He discusses how AI is blurring the lines between real and fake, creating challenges for identity verification. The conversation highlights the need for advanced detection methods and the creation of new roles like ‘Reality Auditor.’ Russ emphasizes the urgent importance of re-establishing trust in communication as deepfake technology alters our perceptions and legal standards.

May 16, 2024 • 28min
Where Are Secure Web Gateways Falling Short?
Vivek Ramachandran, Founder of SquareX, discusses the effectiveness of Secure Web Gateways in the modern enterprise. Topics include challenges in adapting to browser evolution, the need for better solutions, and the role of SquareX in detecting and mitigating web attacks in real-time.

May 9, 2024 • 31min
Understanding the Zero-Trust Landscape
Richard Stiennon, Chief research analyst, IT-Harvest, discusses the hype and challenges of zero-trust solutions in cybersecurity. They delve into defining zero trust accurately, highlighting the importance of transparency. The podcast explores the risks of vendor dependency and the need for innovative frameworks in cybersecurity product selection.

May 2, 2024 • 35min
Scaling Least Privilege for the Cloud
Sandy Bird, Co-founder and CTO of Sonrai Security, joins the podcast to discuss the challenges of scaling least privilege in the cloud. Topics include automating identity security, optimizing cloud access control, and the evolution of attribute-based access control. Discover the importance of just-in-time access permissions and prioritizing assets for enhanced security.

Apr 25, 2024 • 35min
Should CISOs Be More Empathetic Towards Salespeople?
Emily Heath, general partner at Cyberstarts, joins the podcast to discuss the relationship between CISOs and sales representatives. They delve into the challenges CISOs face with aggressive sales tactics, emphasizing the necessity of empathy and authenticity in sales interactions. The conversation highlights the importance of setting boundaries, providing strategic feedback, and building relationships based on trust and value.

Apr 18, 2024 • 30min
Managing Data Leaks Outside Your Perimeter
Developer advocate Mackenzie Jackson discusses managing data leaks outside your perimeter, addressing the challenges of third-party leaks, the need for security-conscious culture in software development, securely managing secrets and credentials, proactive measures like scanning code repositories for leaks, and safeguarding keys with tools like Gigi Shield and hasmysecretleaked.

Apr 11, 2024 • 36min
What Are the Risks of Being a CISO?
Guest Phil Davis, healthcare cybersecurity attorney, discusses the risks and responsibilities of CISOs in today's climate. Topics include liability, balancing responsibility and authority, and the evolving role of CISOs in organizations. Emphasis on security accountability, regulatory challenges, and the transition to cybersecurity attorney.
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