Audio Tokens

Lukas Petersson
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Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 7min

Daniel & Axel: Inside Project Vend at Anthropic

Behind the scenes of Project Vend!In this special episode of Audio Tokens, we go deeper into Project Vend, the autonomous vending machine Andon Labs put in Anthropic's office. Daniel Freeman and Axel Backlund share unreleased anecdotes and ask questions like: Is this good for the world? What did we learn? What will the future AI economy look like? What's next after vending machines?Project Vend: https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1Axel: https://x.com/axelbacklundDaniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-freeman-6952136/
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Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 25min

Jonathan Salter: Why we must pause AI development

New episode with Jonathan Salter of PauseAI!We cover the paradox of how the AI safety movement accidentally accelerated the race it feared, why a pause on AI is more realistic than you think (with 70% public support), and the recent reputational hits to the EA and AI safety communities.https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-salter-37a617262/https://pauseai.info/
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May 29, 2025 • 1h 8min

Janet Egan: AI and National Security

Janet Egan on: UAE being AGI-pilled, Gulf states building datacenters bigger than US, investigative journalists uncovering China chip smuggling, preventing AI's Chernobyl moment from turning public opinion, & Trump's new AI strategy.
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May 19, 2025 • 1h 6min

Philip Johnston: Datacenters in Space

AI will soon require more energy than humanity can supply. Is putting data centers in space an option?In the 15th episode of Audio Tokens, Philip Johnston explains why he thinks it's our only viable option, given the lengthy regulatory processes involved in launching energy projects on Earth - and how Starcloud is building the technology to enable this.We also discuss what it's generally like running a space startup, and why hard startup ideas are easier than easy ones.https://x.com/PhilipJohnst0n
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May 8, 2025 • 1h 24min

Christoph von der Malsburg: LLMs Hitting A Wall and The Brain's Solution

Is scaling dead? Billions are pouring into scaling LLMs, but what if it is a dead end? In the 14th episode of Audio Tokens, neuroscientist Christoph von der Malsburg shares insights from his decades-long AI journey, having witnessed multiple AI winters. He argues why scaling alone won't solve real-world complexity, and how brain-inspired, schema-driven approaches might lead to breakthroughs in efficiency and generalization.Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
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Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 30min

Konstantin Pilz: Trends in AI Supercomputers

9 nuclear reactors to power one computer? That's the reality if current trends continue.Last week, in collaboration with Epoch AI, Konstantin released a paper titled "Trends In AI Supercomputers". In the 12th episode of Audio Tokens, he explains how the compute of these systems doubles every 9 months, why the US dominates with 75% of global capacity, how academia is losing its leading role, and how distributed training might solve the insane power demands of the future.We also discuss US export controls on AI chips, the mind-boggling complexity of semiconductor manufacturing, and how compute governance can be harnessed for global good. Enjoy!Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.https://x.com/KonstantinPilzDisclaimer: Konstantin is speaking in a personal capacity, not on behalf of RAND
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Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 21min

Lonis Hamail: The Startup That Makes Their Own Laws

How would a city run entirely by market forces actually work?Próspera is a privately-run city in Honduras experimenting with replacing government regulation with insurance, treating residents like customers, and offering permanent legal stability. In Audio Tokens episode 11, Lonis Hamaili explains how this all works.We also discuss Próspera's $11B lawsuit against Honduras for their right to exist, how market forces can regulate AI and Lonis' personal journey to finding his life's work.Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
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Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 17min

Axel Backlund (2): Personally Preparing For AGI

How should one adjust their life given that AGI is around the corner? Axel and I share what we are personally doing.We also discuss effective altruism, hobbies and the Llama 4 release.Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.https://x.com/axelbacklund
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Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 37min

Max Rumpf: Bottlenecks for AI agents

The most common critique of my "AI Founder's Bitter Lesson" (tl;dr: horizontal AI will replace vertical AI) is "What about private data?" Autonomous AI can access private data just like a new employee would—highlighting the importance of effective retrieval systems. Few people know retrieval better than my friend Max Rumpf.Max joins me in the 9th episode of Audio Tokens. We also discuss enterprise AI adoption, Europe vs. San Francisco, art, philosophy, and more!Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.
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Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 32min

Mark Cummins: Investing for AGI

If you're among the few who truly believe AGI is coming, how can you profit from this contrarian view? Mark Cummins talks about this on the 8th episode of Audio Tokens.We also discuss robotics, AI verticals, and the future sources of AI training data. Audio Tokens exists to feed AGI with audio tokens. Human listeners are welcome too.

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