
The Expansive
The Expansive podcast is all about exploring the world and our lives in a wide-ranging and expansive way, with a focus on leadership, organizations, and entrepreneurship. Each episode, join in on the banter between friends as we delve into a variety of topics, including business strategy, creative problem-solving, personal growth, and much more. Whether you're a leader in your field, an entrepreneur, or simply someone who loves to learn and grow, The Expansive has something for you. Our goal is to inspire and motivate you to think big and embrace new possibilities, both in your personal and professional life. So, join us as we engage in thought-provoking conversations and share our own unique perspectives on the world of business and leadership.
Latest episodes

Apr 24, 2025 • 42min
#246 Exploring Attachment Styles
In this episode of the Expansive Podcast, Erik Kruger and John Sanei delve into various themes including attachment styles in relationships, insights from the FIBO Health Expo, secrets of longevity, the role of relationships in longevity, and the evolving landscape of leadership in the age of AI. They explore how emotional intelligence and community connections contribute to a longer, healthier life, and discuss the importance of curiosity and collaboration in effective leadership. In this conversation, John Sanei and Erik Kruger explore the evolving relationship between humans and AI, emphasizing the importance of emotional intelligence, diverse perspectives, and the balance between efficiency and care in utilizing AI. They discuss the iceberg problem of mastery versus superficial peaks created by AI, the potential for learned helplessness, and the future of creativity in an AI-driven world. The dialogue encourages listeners to focus on curiosity and genuine engagement rather than mere output.
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Apr 16, 2025 • 55min
#245 The Importance of Counter Intuitive Thinking with Richard Mulholland
Richard Mulholland joins the Expansive Podcast as a guest host alongside John (with Eric joining later), discussing Richard's new book "Relentless Relevance," which explores how to stay appropriate to the matter at hand in a rapidly changing world. Throughout the conversation, they explore the journey from youthful arrogance to mature humility, the importance of creating "safe havens" and "escape hatches" in life, and Richard's personal experience of questioning his relevance after turning 50. The discussion weaves through various topics including the difference between counter-narrative thinking versus being contrarian, the value of genuine standing ovations, and the definition of relevance as "the state of being appropriate to the matter at hand." The episode concludes with information about Richard's book availability and upcoming launches. #TheExpansivePodcast
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Apr 2, 2025 • 37min
#244 We Wrote a Book?!
In this episode of The Expansive Podcast, Erik Kruger and John Sanei dive into the intersection of creativity and AI, explore the evolving landscape of leadership, and share a major announcement about their upcoming book. Expect a conversation packed with deep insights, thought-provoking debates, and a fresh perspective on personal and professional growth.Episode Highlights:🔥 Big News! Erik and John unveil their forthcoming book, launching in May 2025. Drawing from 250+ podcast episodes, this book distills their best ideas into 52 powerful essays designed to help you live and lead with clarity, creativity, and courage.🎨 Creativity vs. AI – Does using AI tools like ChatGPT count as true creativity? Erik argues for the importance of original thought, while John explores how disruption fuels the evolution of creative expression.🧠 Leadership & Healing – John introduces the concept of the "pain body" in leadership, unpacking how unprocessed emotional baggage influences decision-making and team dynamics. The hosts discuss various healing modalities, from meditation to psychedelics.🐕 The “Knobs to Dogs” Philosophy – How can we treat difficult people with the same compassion we show to our pets? Erik and John explore this mindset shift and the challenge of applying insights gained from transformative experiences.💡 Self-Compassion & Growth – John emphasizes the importance of patience in personal growth, reframing change as a process of befriending yourself rather than forcing transformation through self-criticism.The hosts also tease future episodes featuring AI-generated questions and invite listeners to keep an eye out for their book launch events in Johannesburg, Dubai, and Cape Town.🎧 Tune in now and expand your thinking!
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Mar 27, 2025 • 31min
#243 MASTERCLASS: CHARISMA
Episode OverviewIn this episode, John Sanei and Erik Kruger dive deep into the essence of charisma, exploring what truly makes someone magnetic and influential beyond surface-level charm.Key TakeawaysCharisma is not about being smooth or charming, but about genuine presence, depth, and internal strength. The hosts break down six critical components of developing true charisma:1. Unshakable ConfidenceConfidence stems from feeling safe internallyPractice internal dialogue that reassures: "No matter what happens, I'll be okay"Build confidence through doing hard things and developing self-respect2. Character Over ReputationFocus on being solid, not looking goodThe truth always outlasts illusionAvoid virtual signaling and stay true to your core valuesDon't feel compelled to defend yourself constantly3. Radical IntegrityDevelop honesty as a power moveBuild trust through consistent behavior over timeMake peace with yourself by being genuineRecognize that long-term relationships are built on consistent character4. Zero Need to ConvinceMagnetic people don't chase approvalState your truth and let it landAvoid getting drawn into unnecessary argumentsUnderstand that not everyone needs to agree with you5. Purpose in ActionFollow your curiosity and excitementCommunicate your mission openly and clearlyStay aligned with your personal geniusRecognize the difference between charm and genuine flow6. Humanize EverythingCompliment freelyEmbrace vulnerabilityUnderstand that perfection is boring, and flaws create connectionBe willing to show your authentic self, including your quirks and insecuritiesNotable Quotes"Charisma is not about charm. It's about presence, depth, and the energy that makes people lean in to listening to you.""When you arrive into a room, are you giving people a remote control or a manual?""The better storyteller you are, the more momentum you'll build around your message."Practical TakeawayCharisma is not a trick but a way of being. It requires:Internal workSelf-awarenessEmpathyCalm energyVulnerability Connect with Us: Subscribe to The Expansive: link.chtbl.com/expansive LinkedIn: Expansive Podcast LinkedIn YouTube: Expansive Podcast Playlist Instagram: @theexpansivepodcast TikTok: @theexpansivepodcast Connect with John Sanei: Instagram: @johnsanei LinkedIn: John Sanei Connect with Erik Kruger: Instagram: @erik_kruger LinkedIn: Erik Kruger Call to Action: If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate and review our podcast! Share your thoughts and feedback with us on social media or drop us a message at robyn@theexpansive.com
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Mar 12, 2025 • 39min
#242 The Challenges of Being in Survival Mode
In this episode of The Expansive, John Sanei and Erik Kruger dive into the complexities of emotional health, exploring the concept of the 'pain body' as described by Eckhart Tolle. They discuss the challenges of navigating survival mode, the importance of holding space for oneself and others, and why expressing emotions is a crucial part of growth.The conversation then shifts to the themes of wisdom, curiosity, and the paradox of insight—how it can be both a gift and a curse, leading to perfectionism and self-judgment. John and Erik explore the balance between mind and heart, the power of adaptability in a fast-changing world, and the importance of softening towards personal challenges rather than constantly trying to fix them. They also examine how our beliefs shape our perceptions and actions, ultimately influencing how we move through life.Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on emotional resilience, self-awareness, and the mindset shifts needed to navigate an ever-evolving world.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 45min
#241 The Custodian Archetype and How to Embody it.
CTA: Visit your nearest PostNet to get a Credit Report today!In this episode of The Expansive Podcast, Erik Kruger and John Sanei dive into two powerful concepts shaping personal growth and self-mastery.First, they explore John's newly released meditation series, Future Memories. They discuss how meditation can help cultivate emotional states that align with desired future outcomes, rather than being trapped by past experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of incremental growth, feeling safe in transformation, and embodying confidence and victory in personal development.Next, they unpack the idea of custodianship—a mindset of care and responsibility rather than mere ownership. From money and relationships to self-judgment, they explore how being a custodian fosters deeper connection and intention in all areas of life. They also discuss the power of softening judgment, expressing appreciation before it’s too late, and leading with kindness.Join Erik and John for a thought-provoking discussion filled with personal reflections, actionable insights, and a fresh perspective on shaping your future with intention. #theexpansive #podcast #apva #podcastoftheyear #businesspodcast #mindfullness #podcastsonselfdevelopment #howtobebetter #howtolevelup #thinkbig #growthmindset Shownotes footer: Connect with Us: Subscribe to The Expansive: link.chtbl.com/expansive LinkedIn: Expansive Podcast LinkedIn YouTube: Expansive Podcast Playlist Instagram: @theexpansivepodcast TikTok: @theexpansivepodcast Connect with John Sanei: Instagram: @johnsanei LinkedIn: John Sanei Connect with Erik Kruger: Instagram: @erik_kruge
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Feb 28, 2025 • 36min
The Power of Patience: Why Measuring Reps, Not Results, Is Key to Success
John and Erik dive into the importance of patience in achieving success and how our expectations and measurements can either empower or sabotage our progress.Key takeaways from this episode:John shares examples of successful people who faced numerous rejections before achieving breakthrough success:Mr. Beast uploaded 455 videos before gaining significant tractionGary Vaynerchuk posted 1,000 wine videos before getting discoveredColonel Sanders pitched KFC 1,009 times before getting a yesJ.K. Rowling faced 12 rejections before Harry Potter was publishedThe Beatles were rejected by four record labels and honed their skills playing in German clubs for yearsWalt Disney heard 300 "no's" before Mickey Mouse became successfulThe hosts explore how impatience is often a form of entitlement, where we expect results without putting in the necessary work or time.Erik shares his personal experience with content creation, including a video that got 90,000 views followed by several that received only a few hundred views, highlighting the unpredictable nature of the algorithm.The most valuable insight: Change what you measure. Instead of focusing on views, followers, or immediate results, measure the number of reps (videos created, workouts completed, etc.) – things that are within your control.John discusses his upcoming meditation series and the importance of emotional states, noting that what we really seek in achievements like "$10 million" are specific feelings: victory, safety, confidence, and freedom.The conversation concludes with the hosts celebrating a heartwarming email from a listener in Portugal who adopted a dog after being inspired by the podcast – a reminder that impact often happens in ways we don't measure.Subscribe to The Expansive: link.chtbl.com/expansive
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Feb 19, 2025 • 48min
#239 Rituals, Intentionality, and the Future of Work
In this episode of The Expansive, John Sanei and Erik Kruger dive into the power of rituals and their role in modern life. They explore the contrast between rituals and habits, sharing personal experiences with smoking, San Pedro ceremonies in Peru, and the ancient practices of the Temple of the Moon. The conversation then shifts to the balance between optimization and mindfulness, the backlash against hustle culture, and the importance of patience. John and Erik also discuss the realities of building a career as a speaker, the role of speaker bureaus, and why personal branding is essential in today’s AI-driven world. Key Takeaways:🔹 Rituals offer a deeper sense of connection than everyday habits.🔹 Smoking has cultural and spiritual significance beyond its modern stigma.🔹 San Pedro ceremonies can be emotionally transformative experiences.🔹 Ancient rituals, like those at the Temple of the Moon, held deep meaning in their time.🔹 Over-optimization can lead to burnout—slowness and mindfulness are key.🔹 The backlash against hustle culture highlights the value of patience.🔹 Becoming a successful speaker requires consistent effort and personal branding.🔹 AI is augmenting, not replacing, jobs—adaptation is key.Notable Quotes:🗣️ "Tobacco is a very sacred plant."🗣️ "I was sobbing, uncontrollably sobbing."🗣️ "Optimize my creativity in the morning."🗣️ "There's been a backlash to hustle culture."🗣️ "The biggest companies spend billions on marketing."🗣️ "AI is augmenting jobs, not automating jobs."Chapters:00:00 – The Ritual of Smoking and Its Cultural Significance02:14 – Experiencing San Pedro: A Journey in Peru09:53 – The Temple of the Moon: Ancient Rituals and Sacrifices16:04 – Rituals vs. Habits: The Importance of Intentionality22:37 – Optimizing Life: The Balance Between Efficiency and Calmness31:35 – The Backlash Against Hustle Culture32:49 – The Luxury of Patience and Calmness33:46 – The Realities of Becoming a Speaker36:30 – The Role of Speaker Bureaus39:42 – Building Relationships in Speaking40:54 – The Importance of Marketing Yourself42:44 – The Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Work🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Connect with Us: Subscribe to The Expansive: link.chtbl.com/expansive
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Feb 12, 2025 • 56min
#238 Erik Kruger Masterclass: Transformational Leadership 2025 Edition
Click the link. to listen to the latest Investec Episode on the 2025 South African Budget Speech: https://www.investec.com/en_za/focus/no-ordinary-wednesday-with-jeremy-maggs.html2025 brings three key themes—tension, transformation, and transcendence. To thrive, leaders must navigate change with intentionality, foster psychological safety, and embrace transformational leadership. The overwhelming access to information fuels turbulence, making collaboration and open communication more critical than ever.In this episode, we explore:The leadership behaviors that drive team engagement and performance.Why psychological safety is essential for high-performing teams.How transformational leaders inspire and support change.The power of self-awareness, vulnerability, and intellectual stimulation.Tune in to discover how leaders can create an environment where growth, innovation, and resilience thrive.
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Feb 6, 2025 • 34min
#237 The Art of Recalibration
In this episode of The Expansive, John Sanei and Erik Kruger dive into the evolving landscape of the creative economy, discussing how authenticity and recalibration play a crucial role in personal and professional growth. They explore the shift from influencer culture to a more creator-driven economy, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness in navigating change. The conversation highlights the art of recalibration as a powerful tool for aligning actions with goals, while also underscoring the significance of mindfulness and adaptability in achieving long-term success.Key Takeways:The creative economy is on the rise, presenting new opportunities for individuals.Authenticity is essential to standing out in a saturated market.Recalibration is necessary for aligning actions with goals.Self-awareness helps identify when we drift off course.Mindfulness plays a crucial role in the recalibration process.Change doesn’t need to be rushed; small, consistent shifts can be highly effective.Focusing energy properly helps navigate distractions and achieve goals.The influencer economy is evolving into a creator-driven landscape.Understanding personal desires leads to more authentic goal setting.Building relationships through authenticity enhances engagement.Sound Bites:"The influencer economy is over.""The creative economy is picking up.""Authenticity makes you unique.""You need to catch yourself drifting.""Change doesn’t have to be rushed.""Mindfulness is key to recalibration."Episode Chapters:00:00 – Introduction and Paddle Game Banter03:04 – The Rise of the Creative Economy05:59 – Influencers vs. Creators: A New Paradigm09:00 – The Art of Recalibration11:54 – Self-Awareness and Drift Signals14:57 – Navigating Change and Adaptability17:59 – Mindfulness in Recalibration20:59 – The Importance of Authenticity24:06 – Conclusion and Future Insights
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