

The Audit Podcast
Trent Russell
On the show you can expect to hear from everyone: from the intern, to the IT audit director, CAE and audit committee members because all of their opinions are important.
We’ll talk about integrating tech into audit, how to get quick wins, the latest SOX guidance and whatever other topics the guests want to talk about and whatever you want to hear about.
Be sure to subscribe to the show in whatever you’re listening to it on now and we’ll talk to you soon.
We’ll talk about integrating tech into audit, how to get quick wins, the latest SOX guidance and whatever other topics the guests want to talk about and whatever you want to hear about.
Be sure to subscribe to the show in whatever you’re listening to it on now and we’ll talk to you soon.
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May 20, 2025 • 34min
Ep 241: How to Win Support for ERM w/ Beth Womersley (Universal Destination & Experiences)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences. Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support from leadership, and what frameworks to consider. Be sure to connect with Beth on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:46 – How an ERM Expert Uses LLMs 6:13 – What Is Enterprise Risk Management (ERM)? 11:53 – Setting Up Your Team to Implement ERM 14:00 – Building the Business Case for ERM 19:12 – How to Pitch ERM to the Board 23:04 – Facilitating the ERM Process 30:40 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

May 13, 2025 • 36min
Ep 240: Practical Tips to Improve Workplace Communication w/ Nancy Yuen (SoFi)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi. In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her emotional intelligence in order to thrive professionally. She opens up about that journey, how developing strong communication skills transformed her leadership style, and offers practical strategies others can apply in their own careers. Be sure to connect with Nancy on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:10 - Strategies for Supporting an Overextended Team 8:22 - Nancy's Journey to Finding Emotional intelligence 21:19 - Acting Classes for Auditors 28:50 – Letting Go of Ego to Build a Stronger Team 33:30 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

May 6, 2025 • 26min
Ep 239: Reimagining Audit Staffing w/ Chris Denver
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Chris Denver, former CAE and IIA Chicago President. In this episode, Chris walks us through the forward-looking staffing model he’s developed—one that balances internal talent with digital tools and trusted external partners to create a more flexible, future-ready audit function. He shares how this hybrid approach not only drives efficiency but also helps his team stay responsive in a constantly changing business environment. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:40 – Using LLMs for Creativity and Innovation 5:00 – Rethinking the Traditional Audit Staffing Pyramid 11:20 – Why Automation Is Essential to the Evolving Audit Process 16:40 – Putting the New Internal Audit Model into Practice 19:30 – Preparing Future Auditors 23:03 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Apr 29, 2025 • 22min
Ep 238: The Best Advice from Agentic AI Experts
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’ve gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark. AI Agent Governance: A Field Guide Be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 4:46- Charles King: Understanding the Fundamentals of Agentic AI 7:52 - John Thompson: Using Agents to Help Auditors Focus on What Matters Most 11:28 - Andrew Clark: Challenging the Conventional Thinking on Agentic AI 19:06 - Trent Russell: How Audits Fit Into the World of Agentic AI * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Apr 28, 2025 • 54min
Ep 237: Protocol for Preparing for Your Best Audit Committee Meeting Ever w/ Rob Clark Jr. (Howard University)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University. In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it’s a team meeting, a presentation, or a high-stakes conversation. Be sure to connect with Rob on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 5:00 – Using ChatGPT to Learn About Cybersecurity 9:20 – Why Communication Skills Matter More Than Technical Know-How 15:30 – A Practical Approach to Building Confidence in Meetings 23:29 – How to Recover When a Presentation Doesn’t Land 25:51 – Getting Started with Public Speaking 32:17 – How to Strengthen Your Presentation Skills 43:33 – Key Conversations Throughout the Audit Lifecycle 50:53 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Apr 15, 2025 • 43min
Ep 236: The one KPI for Internal Audit w/ Mark Freeman (Vermeer Corporation)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mark Freeman, Head of Internal Audit at Vermeer Corporation. In this episode, Mark shares insights from a recent CAE roundtable, where recruitment, audit committee metrics, and Copilot use cases topped the agenda. He also walks us through how he rebuilt internal audit’s reputation at Vermeer after stepping into a challenging environment. Plus, he gives us a look at the actual metrics he shares with his audit committee—offering a practical starting point for your own reporting conversations. Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:03 - Timeless Advice from Charlie Munger 7:15 - Rethinking Recruitment and Talent in Audit 12:10 - Unlocking the Full Value of Internal Audit 15:20 - Reframing the Image of Internal Audit 21:50 - Why Metrics Matter 27:58 - Must-Reads for Audit Professionals 31:30 - Implementing Copilot: AI in Action 39:15 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Apr 8, 2025 • 24min
Ep 235: Rethinking Change Management Audits w/ Taylor Meadows (Change Captain)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Taylor Meadows, Founder and CEO of Change Captain. In this episode, Taylor shares his journey from manually managing IT change controls to founding Change Captain, a software solution that streamlines change management and R&D tax credit processes. We touch on organizations handle code changes, the risks involved, and how automation is revolutionizing compliance. Be sure to connect with Taylor on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:50 - Advancing Learning with AI 6:26 - Navigating Change Management in IT 10:19 - The Origin Story of CrowdStrike 11:52 - Understanding System Limitations 15:56 - Handling Emergency Changes Effectively 17:07 - Data-Driven Decision Making 19:00 - Exploring R&D Tax Credits 21:52 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Mar 31, 2025 • 14min
Ep 234: AI Talks Data & Analytics (Feat. Monica Royal’s Article)
We've tested Notebook LM again, an AI tool that transforms written articles into podcast episodes using artificially generated voices. This time, we used an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monica attended the Mini Spring Audit Analytics and AI Conference and shared her key takeaways in a LinkedIn article. We uploaded her piece to Notebook LM, and the result is an unedited, AI-generated podcast episode. Be sure to read Monica’s article and to connect with her on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:04 - The Fast-Paced Evolution of Data in AI and Analytics 3:22 - Audit Analytics Strategy and Role Structuring 5:21 - Using Data to Keep Sewer Compliance Flowing 7:14 - Harnessing Copilot for Speed & Efficiency 9:42 - Managing Innovation and AI 11:15 - Making an Agent is Easier * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Mar 25, 2025 • 29min
Ep 233: How to Get More Internal Audit Budget w/ David Hill (HillAudit Training Ltd)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by we’re joined by David Hill, Managing Director of HillAudit Training Ltd. In this episode, David challenges the idea that stability equals security and internal audit. He explores how budget cuts, resistance to change, and outdated processes can lead to disengagement—hurting recruitment, retention, and audit effectiveness. He also shares strategies to combat stagnation, from fostering innovation to leveraging AI and analytics for efficiency. Be sure to connect with David on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:40 - Shaking Up Complacency 9:17 - The One-Day Audit 12:57 - How Well do CAEs Know Their Budget 17:52 - How to Secure More Budget for Your Audit Goals 22:53 - How to Overcome Pushback 24:48 - Why Auditors Need Sales Skills 27:14 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Mar 19, 2025 • 45min
Ep 232: A Contrarian View of Agentic AI w/ Andrew Clark (Monitaur)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenges that come with them. Be sure to connect with Andrew on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 5:22 – ChatGPT: Jack of All Trades, Master of None? 7:00 – Picking the Right Language Model 11:33 – What the Future Holds for AGI 16:15 – What AI Agents Are Really About 19:52 – The Marketing Issue with AI and Its Agents 25:06 – The Trouble with AI Agents 31:23 – How to Regulate AI and Its Agents 42:45 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.