
The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession
Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.
Latest episodes

Sep 8, 2022 • 34min
Ep 272 - David Lesondak and Finding Fascia: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney
David Lesondak has an impressive resume. A structural integrator who has helped countless clients, he is also an educator, a podcaster, and an author. But the thread through all of that: his fascination with fascia. Listen to David's story and learn about the journey of a science nerd turned fascia guru. His pure love of how the human form functions is contagious and inspirational, to say the least. Host: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com. Allison’s column in Massage & Bodywork magazine: “The QL and the Psoas: The Epitome of Codependency” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 24. “The Hand: A User’s Guide,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine. November/December 2021, page 81. “Feelization: Connect with Clients on a Deeper Level,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 85. This podcast sponsored by: Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com ACOLS: acols.com Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: www.rebelmassage.com FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com The Academy of Lymphatic Studies (ACOLS) promotes the quality and integrity of continuing education to practitioners in the field of lymphedema and edema management. Manual lymphatic drainage helps to reduce edema of various genesis, including posttraumatic and post-surgical edema, as well as several pathologies, such as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, migraines, and chronic pain. Highly skilled manual lymphatic drainage therapists with advanced training are instrumental in supporting the healing process in patients recovering from oncology treatments as well as cosmetic, reconstructive, and gender affirming surgery. ACOLS offers Manual Lymph Drainage (MLD) Certification and Complete Lymphedema Therapy Certification courses in both in-person and hybrid options. With 150 annual course offerings all over the country, students can find the right course for them. Website: acols.com Facebook: facebook.com/AcademyofLymphaticStudies LinkedIn: llinkedin.com/company/academy-of-lymphatic-studies-llc Instagram: instagram.com/lymphaticstudies Email: admissions@acols.com

Sep 6, 2022 • 30min
Ep 271 – Cool Muscles with Dr. Joe Muscolino
Each muscle is important to the kinematic function of the body, and some muscles stand out more than others—muscles that Dr. Joe Muscolino can only describe as “Cool!” In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Dr. Joe about his new article in the September/October issue of Massage & Bodywork magazine, “Cool Muscles: Confessions of an Anatomy Geek,” and some that he feels are underappreciated. Dr. Joe Muscolino has been a manual and movement therapy educator for more than 35 years. He has created several online streaming subscription platforms for manual therapy continuing education, including LearnMuscles Continuing Education (LMCE) with more than 3,000 video lessons and more than 300 hours of NCBTMB credit. He has also created Muscle Anatomy Master Class (MAMC), Bone and Joint Anatomy Master Class (BAJAMC), Visceral Anatomy Master Class (VMC), and Kinesiology Master Class (KMC). He is the author of multiple textbooks with Elsevier and has authored more than 90 articles. For more information on any of Dr. Joe’s content, visit learnmuscles.com. To contact Dr. Joe directly, you can reach him at joseph.e.muscolino@gmail.com. Resources: “Cool Muscles: Confessions of an Anatomy Geek,” by Dr. Joe Muscolino, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2022, page 56. Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours! The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are hiring! Visit ElementsMassage.com/ABMP for more information. Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementsmassage Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLHkAYMgmA6_MJ8DSEZm-A Disclaimer: Each Elements Massage® studio is independently owned and operated. Franchise owners (or their designated hiring managers) are solely responsible for all employment and personnel decisions and matters regarding their independently owned and operated studios, including hiring, direction, training, supervision, discipline, discharge, compensation (e.g., wage practices and tax withholding and reporting requirements), and termination of employment. Elements Therapeutic Massage, LLC (ETM) is not involved in, and is not responsible for, employment and personnel matters and decisions made by any franchise owner. All individuals hired by franchise owners’ studios are their employees, not those of ETM. Benefits vary by independently owned and operated Elements Massage® studios. Elements Massage® and Elements Massage + design are registered trademarks owned by ETM.

Sep 2, 2022 • 14min
Ep 270 – Sciatic Pain with Til Luchau: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Til Luchau of Advanced Trainings joined me in real space, and we took advantage of that opportunity to record an I Have a Client Who story regarding a person (Til’s wife, in fact) who has chronic sciatic pain that has never fully resolved, despite receiving the finest manual therapy available. We discuss what happens when all our best skills don’t get the results we hope for, and what it means to redefine goals for chronic pain conditions to improve levels of function and quality of life. Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app Straight Leg Raise: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Exercise_Straight_Leg_Raises.png About our Sponsor: About Til Luchau and Advanced-Trainings.com: As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into 6 languages), his regular Myofascial Techniques and Somatic Edge columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the Director of Advanced-Trainings.com which since 1985 has offered short, credit-approved professional trainings and certification for manual therapists of all types, in person and online. Website: Advanced-Trainings.com Email: info@advanced-trainings.com Facebook: facebook.com/Advanced.Trainings1/ Instagram: instagram.com/tilluchau YouTube: youtube.com/user/AdvancedTrainings

Aug 30, 2022 • 28min
Ep 269 – Collaboration and Community with Adrienne Asta
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren are joined by the newly elected president of the Massage Therapy Foundation, Adrienne Asta, to discuss her passion for massage, what drew her to the foundation’s work, upcoming initiatives, and how to get involved with the foundation. Adrienne Asta has been practicing massage since 2001 and is co-owner of Center 4 Self-Care in Tucson, Ariz. She holds advanced certifications in Neuromuscular Therapy and Prenatal Massage, with her clients seeing her for nurturing and informed approaches to pain management. Asta is most proud of the work her company is doing to bring complementary therapies to those going through addiction recovery; she is working on contributing to this area of MT research. She has been deeply involved in education for the massage industry, holding various education positions since 2002 and as an NCBTMB-approved provider for continuing education. Having worked in a wide breadth of educational and clinical environments, she has a keen sense of the challenges that are common, from education to practice. She has developed ancillary materials for textbooks widely used in massage therapy programs and has trained all levels of practicing massage therapists and educators. She has served as Chair of MTF’s Community Service Grants Review Committee and on the Development/Marketing Committee. Resources: Massage Therapy Foundation: https://massagetherapyfoundation.org/ Donate now: https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/1428681 Grants and Contests: https://massagetherapyfoundation.org/grants-and-contests/ Get Involved: https://massagetherapyfoundation.org/get-involved/ Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com Fascia Research Society: www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours! The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are hiring! Visit ElementsMassage.com/ABMP for more information. Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementsmassage Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLHkAYMgmA6_MJ8DSEZm-A Disclaimer: Each Elements Massage® studio is independently owned and operated. Franchise owners (or their designated hiring managers) are solely responsible for all employment and personnel decisions and matters regarding their independently owned and operated studios, including hiring, direction, training, supervision, discipline, discharge, compensation (e.g., wage practices and tax withholding and reporting requirements), and termination of employment. Elements Therapeutic Massage, LLC (ETM) is not involved in, and is not responsible for, employment and personnel matters and decisions made by any franchise owner. All individuals hired by franchise owners’ studios are their employees, not those of ETM. Benefits vary by independently owned and operated Elements Massage® studios. Elements Massage® and Elements Massage + design are registered trademarks owned by ETM. Fascia Research Society (FRS) was established as a membership organization to facilitate, encourage, and support the dialogue and collaboration between clinicians, researchers, and academicians, in order to further our understanding of the properties and functions of fascia. Every three years, FRS hosts the International Fascia Research Congress (IFRC). Beginning in 2007 with the first IFRC, and triennially since, the IFRC has been the premiere fascia congress in the world. No other fascia congress brings together the very latest in fascial discovery and the diversity of the leaders in fascia. Registration closes August 31, 2022 – don’t miss out! For more information on FRC, or to register for the 2022 IFRC please visit us at www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Questions about either FRS or IFRC? Email us at info@fasciareserchsociety.org

Aug 26, 2022 • 15min
Ep 268 – Frozen Shoulder with Diane Matkowski: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Diane Matkowski, from Massage Mentor Institute, came for a visit, so we took the opportunity to do an in-person IHACW podcast. Diane describes a reluctant client who really didn’t want to be there. What’s more, the client had a condition that was a bit intimidating: frozen shoulder. But with patience, great touch and sensitivity, Diane resolved the situation, winning over a client who became an enthusiastic promoter of Diane’s business. About Diane Matkowski and Massage Mentor Institute: The Institute is a space for practicing massage therapists to learn different approaches and varying philosophies on what works for bodywork. Not only that, but you will also find business classes and mentoring to further guide you on your journey. https://themassagementorinstitute.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMassageMentor Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/themassagementor Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. More information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app About our Sponsor: About Til Luchau and Advanced-Trainings.com: As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into six languages), his regular “Myofascial Techniques” and “Somatic Edge” columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the director of Advanced-Trainings.com, which since 1985 has offered short, credit-approved professional trainings and certification for manual therapists of all types, in person and online. Website: Advanced-Trainings.com Email: info@advanced-trainings.com Facebook: facebook.com/Advanced.Trainings1/ Instagram: instagram.com/tilluchau YouTube: youtube.com/user/AdvancedTrainings

Aug 25, 2022 • 15min
Ep 267 - The Cosmic Cloth of the Suboccipital Muscles: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney
The suboccipital muscles have a lot more in common with deep space than one might think. The exquisite balance of all the dimensions that define us are evidenced in the structure and function of this particular cluster of muscles. Seemingly warping our individual universes, the suboccipital muscles require an awareness of the time-space continuum to help navigate how we approach this region with our clients. Host: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com. Allison’s column in Massage & Bodywork magazine: “The QL and the Psoas: The Epitome of Codependency” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 24. “The Hand: A User’s Guide,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine. November/December 2021, page 81. “Feelization: Connect with Clients on a Deeper Level,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 85. This podcast sponsored by: Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com Milk + Honey: www.milkandhoneyspa.com Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work with you—not on you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: www.rebelmassage.com FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com Milk + Honey Award-winning day spa milk + honey is currently hiring Licensed Massage Therapists in Texas, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Miami. Milk + honey is committed to helping employees achieve their personal and professional goals by offering competitive benefits, and an industry-leading compensation program that takes a holistic view of performance and tenure, allowing team members to take charge and own their own growth Visit milkandhoneyspa.com/careers or find us on Instagram at instagram.com/milkandhoneyspa to learn more about what makes milk + honey a great place to work and submit your application.

Aug 23, 2022 • 41min
Ep 266 – When Millennials Take Over, with Jamie Notter
Successful companies, employers, and solo practitioners are shifting their strategies to embrace four key capacities that will drive future business: digital, clear, fluid, and fast. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Jamie Notter, author of When Millennials Take Over: Preparing for the Ridiculously Optimistic Future of Business, about what is happening generationally in the workplace, the characteristics that define generations, and how our awareness of generational differences help in understanding workplace culture, motivation, and client connections. Jamie is an author and growth strategist at PROPEL, where he helps leaders integrate culture, strategy, and execution to achieve breakthrough performance and impact. He brings 25 years of experience to his work designing culture-driven businesses and has specialized along the way in areas like conflict resolution and generations. Jamie is also the co-author of three books—Humanize, When Millennials Take Over, and The Non-Obvious Guide to Employee Engagement—and holds a master’s degree in conflict resolution from George Mason University and a certificate in Organization Development from Georgetown University, where he serves as adjunct faculty. Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com Fascia Research Society: www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives—including yours! The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are hiring! Visit ElementsMassage.com/ABMP for more information. Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementsmassage Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLHkAYMgmA6_MJ8DSEZm-A Disclaimer: Each Elements Massage® studio is independently owned and operated. Franchise owners (or their designated hiring managers) are solely responsible for all employment and personnel decisions and matters regarding their independently owned and operated studios, including hiring, direction, training, supervision, discipline, discharge, compensation (e.g., wage practices and tax withholding and reporting requirements), and termination of employment. Elements Therapeutic Massage, LLC (ETM) is not involved in, and is not responsible for, employment and personnel matters and decisions made by any franchise owner. All individuals hired by franchise owners’ studios are their employees, not those of ETM. Benefits vary by independently owned and operated Elements Massage® studios. Elements Massage® and Elements Massage + design are registered trademarks owned by ETM. Fascia Research Society (FRS) was established as a membership organization to facilitate, encourage, and support the dialogue and collaboration between clinicians, researchers, and academicians, in order to further our understanding of the properties and functions of fascia. Every three years, FRS hosts the International Fascia Research Congress (IFRC). Beginning in 2007 with the first IFRC, and triennially since, the IFRC has been the premier fascia congress in the world. No other fascia congress brings together the very latest in fascial discovery and the diversity of the leaders in fascia. Registration closes August 31, 2022 – don’t miss out! For more information on FRC, or to register for the 2022 IFRC please visit us at www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Questions about either FRS or IFRC? Email us at info@fasciareserchsociety.org

Aug 19, 2022 • 18min
Ep 265 – Spina Bifida: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client is sore and has joint pain in multiple locations. She is easily triggered into painful spasms. And . . . she has an unusual form of spina bifida. What is spina bifida? What makes this person’s experience of it unique? And what opportunities are here for massage therapy to be helpful? Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app CDC (2020) What is Spina Bifida? | CDC, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Available at: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/spinabifida/facts.html (Accessed: 8 August 2022). Sencen, L. (no date) ‘Spina Bifida’, NORD (National Organization for Rare Disorders). Available at: https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/spina-bifida/ (Accessed: 8 August 2022). Spina Bifida Causes, Treatment, Symptoms, Types & Life Expectancy (no date) eMedicineHealth. Available at: https://www.emedicinehealth.com/spina_bifida/article_em.htm (Accessed: 8 August 2022). Tethered Spinal Cord Syndrome | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (no date). Available at: https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/tethered-spinal-cord-syndrome (Accessed: 8 August 2022). Podcast on Chiari Malformation: https://www.abmp.com/podcasts/ep-208-chiari-malformation-i-have-client-who-pathology-conversations-ruth-werner About our Sponsor: About Til Luchau and Advanced-Trainings.com: As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into 6 languages), his regular Myofascial Techniques and Somatic Edge columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the Director of Advanced-Trainings.com which since 1985 has offered short, credit-approved professional trainings and certification for manual therapists of all types, in person and online. Website: Advanced-Trainings.com Email: info@advanced-trainings.com Facebook: facebook.com/Advanced.Trainings1/ Instagram: instagram.com/tilluchau YouTube: youtube.com/user/AdvancedTrainings

Aug 16, 2022 • 27min
Ep 264 – Kinessage for Self-Care with Kathleen Gramzay
Where do holistic health, self-empowerment, neuroscience, and conscious culture intersect? Kathleen Gramzay has the answer. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Kathleen, developer of Kinessage® Mindful Resilience, about how she developed this practice, how Kinessage differs from other modalities, and why massage therapy self-care was so important in her development of Kinessage. Kathleen Gramzay, LMT, is the Founder and CEO of Kinessage LLC. She is a speaker, Body/Mind Resilience Innovator, National CEU Provider, author, and developer of Kinessage® Massage through Movement, Kinessage® Self Care for Therapists, the Kinessage® Release Your Pain Self Care System, and Kinessage® Mindful Resilience. A year into her massage therapy practice, Kathleen’s own debilitating chronic muscular pain compelled her to figure out how to release that pain, creating the new modality of Kinessage®. She proved her methods with professional athletes and thousands of clients in her 16-year massage practice in Scottsdale, AZ. Kathleen taught Anatomy and Kinesiology at the Southwest Institute of Healing Arts before teaching her Kinessage® methods nationally to occupational, physical, and massage therapists. Resources: Connect with Kathleen: https://www.kathleengramzay.com/ Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com Fascia Research Society: www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives—including yours! The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are hiring! Visit ElementsMassage.com/ABMP for more information. Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementsmassage Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLHkAYMgmA6_MJ8DSEZm-A Disclaimer: Each Elements Massage® studio is independently owned and operated. Franchise owners (or their designated hiring managers) are solely responsible for all employment and personnel decisions and matters regarding their independently owned and operated studios, including hiring, direction, training, supervision, discipline, discharge, compensation (e.g., wage practices and tax withholding and reporting requirements), and termination of employment. Elements Therapeutic Massage, LLC (ETM) is not involved in, and is not responsible for, employment and personnel matters and decisions made by any franchise owner. All individuals hired by franchise owners’ studios are their employees, not those of ETM. Benefits vary by independently owned and operated Elements Massage® studios. Elements Massage® and Elements Massage + design are registered trademarks owned by ETM. Fascia Research Society (FRS) was established as a membership organization to facilitate, encourage, and support the dialogue and collaboration between clinicians, researchers, and academicians, in order to further our understanding of the properties and functions of fascia. Every three years, FRS hosts the International Fascia Research Congress (IFRC). Beginning in 2007 with the first IFRC, and triennially since, the IFRC has been the premier fascia congress in the world. No other fascia congress brings together the very latest in fascial discovery and the diversity of the leaders in fascia. Registration closes August 31, 2022 – don’t miss out! For more information on FRC, or to register for the 2022 IFRC please visit us at www.fasciaresearchsociety.org Questions about either FRS or IFRC? Email us at info@fasciareserchsociety.org

Aug 12, 2022 • 12min
Ep 263 - PAH: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client has PAH—and not just regular PAH, he has advanced PAH. No, he’s not spitting expletives—he has pulmonary arterial hypertension, a chronic, progressive, and ultimately terminal lung condition. He loves massage, but his therapist is concerned about the risk that blood clots might play in his disease. And—guess what—he has a history of multiple blood clots in his lungs. Is there a way to work safely here? Maybe, with the right information and careful choices about bodywork. What is PAH? And will we be seeing more of it soon? Listen in for more. Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app Deborah Jo Levine, M.D. (2021) ‘Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension: Updates in Epidemiology and Evaluation of Patients’, Supplements and Featured Publications, 27(3). Available at: https://www.ajmc.com/view/pulmonary-arterial-hypertension-updates-in-epidemiology-and-evaluation-of-patients (Accessed: 20 July 2022). Khan, A.W. et al. (2021) ‘Pulmonary arterial hypertension post COVID-19: A sequala of SARS-CoV-2 infection?’, Respiratory Medicine Case Reports, 33, p. 101429. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.rmcr.2021.101429. Lannan, K.L., Phipps, R.P. and White, R.J. (2014) ‘Thrombosis, platelets, microparticles, and PAH: More than clot’, Drug discovery today, 19(8), pp. 1230–1235. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.drudis.2014.04.001. Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension (PAH) (no date) WebMD. Available at: https://www.webmd.com/lung/pulmonary-arterial-hypertension (Accessed: 20 July 2022). Tudoran, C. et al. (2021) ‘Evidence of Pulmonary Hypertension after SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Subjects without Previous Significant Cardiovascular Pathology’, Journal of Clinical Medicine, 10(2), p. 199. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3390/jcm10020199. About our Sponsor: As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into 6 languages), his regular Myofascial Techniques and Somatic Edge columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the Director of Advanced-Trainings.com which since 1985 has offered short, credit-approved professional trainings and certification for manual therapists of all types, in person and online. Website: Advanced-Trainings.com Email: info@advanced-trainings.com Facebook: facebook.com/Advanced.Trainings1/ Instagram: instagram.com/tilluchau YouTube: youtube.com/user/AdvancedTrainings
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