
rich & REGULAR with Kiersten and Julien Saunders
rich & REGULAR is the podcast for people who want to take charge of their money, pay off their debt, build their wealth, and live their best lives without being obsessed with money. Every week, Kiersten and Julien Saunders show you how money intersects with everything else in your life and teach you how to use it to your advantage. They share their insights and tips on how to make, save, and invest money in creative and unconventional ways. They also help you understand the big changes that are happening in the world and how to adapt to them. Because being rich & famous is overrated. Being rich & REGULAR is where it's at.
Latest episodes

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Jul 15, 2024 • 41min
Ep 171: Why You Need a Brokerage Account: The Swiss Army Knife of Investing
Unlock the hidden potential of brokerage accounts, offering flexibility for short-term and retirement investing. You have full control of your investments, and it's easier than you think to get started. Don't overlook the short-term potential of brokerage accounts for various financial goals.

Jul 8, 2024 • 43min
Ep 170: Why We Fight About Money (and how to stop hitting below the belt)
Money is a hot topic, and it's easy for disagreements to turn into full-blown fights. In this episode, we dive into the common reasons why we fight about money with our partners, family members, and even friends. We explore how our past experiences, cultural influences, and even the nature of our brains can lead to conflict and how to navigate these situations with grace and understanding.Key Takeaways:We're not taught how to argue about money: Most of us don't have the skills to discuss financial matters without resorting to emotion or negativity."On the same page" doesn't mean conflict-free: Healthy relationships include differences of opinion, even about money.We often hit below the belt: Media and cultural narratives can influence how we approach conflict, and sometimes we end up attacking our loved ones without realizing it.Ultimatums are a form of coercion: Instead of trying to control someone's actions with threats, learn to set clear boundaries and communicate your needs respectfully.The "money fight" is often about something deeper: Underlying insecurities about control, trust, and personal values can trigger intense conflict around money.Respecting each other's processes is key: Understand that everyone comes from a different place, has different experiences, and different beliefs.It's okay to not have all the answers: Embrace the process of communication, negotiation, and compromise. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

Jul 1, 2024 • 29min
Ep 169: Stock Splits: Unpacking the Hype
There's a lot of buzz around stock splits these days. Nvidia, Walmart, Chipotle - everyone's talking about it! But, as we explained on the podcast, this isn't the financial revolution you might think it is.A stock split is a simple concept: it's like taking a whole pie and cutting it into more slices. You don't end up with more pie; you just have more pieces. The same is true with a stock split. You don't actually increase the value of your investment; you simply have more shares, each with a lower price.So why do companies do this? Well, it's all about making their stock more accessible. When a company's stock price gets very high, it can be difficult for the average investor to buy in. A stock split makes those prices more palatable for folks with smaller portfolios. But let's be honest, it's also a bit of a marketing ploy. Tune into this week’s episode as we answer the question: what does it all mean for you? Key Takeaways: A stock split is like cutting a pie into more slices; it doesn't change the size of the pie, just how it's divided.Stock splits don't increase the value of your investment.Companies do stock splits to make their stock more accessible and increase trading volume.Stock splits don't guarantee future success.Focus on the fundamentals of a company, not just the hype around a split.Stock splits can offer an opportunity to buy into a good company at a more affordable price, but they’re just a piece of the puzzle.Consider your investment goals and risk tolerance when evaluating a stock split. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

Jun 24, 2024 • 40min
Ep 168: Introducing Season 3 of Money on the Table: Back to Basics (and Better Conversations)
We're excited to be back with a new season of our award-winning original video series, Money on the Table. This episode dives into the origins and inspiration behind Season 3 and why we decided to return to our humble home kitchen for these conversations.We’re unpacking why those authentic, no-holds-barred conversations about money are dang important, how food can be a powerful medium for breaking down walls to explore complex topics, and the trials and triumphs of DIY content creation. We’re giving you the inside scoop on what to expect in Season 3 of Money on the Table – and trust us, it's gonna be good!In this episode, you’ll learn:How Anthony Bourdain's work inspired Money on the Table.How food and food television can create a unique space for conversation.The challenges and benefits of creating content independently.The importance of genuine conversations about money.Our goals for Money on the Table Season going forward Links: Watch Episode 1 “A life with fewer regrets” Watch Episode 2 “Luck is NOT a PLAN”Subscribe to our YouTube channel to be notified when the rest of the episodes drop! Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

Jun 17, 2024 • 25min
Ep 167: My journey through fatherhood | A special Father's Day message
Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads! In this special solo episode, Julien offers a heartfelt and inspiring look into the actual experience of fatherhood. He gives a refreshing perspective on fatherhood and opens up about his own journey, sharing a powerful message of presence, growth, and the role of a dad.Julien takes us on a personal exploration, revealing he wasn't always the father he is today. He describes a past "oblivious" phase where fatherhood wasn't even on his radar, and gets real about the whole “I thought I could plan for this thing” (spoiler alert: you can’t)Julien also explores moving beyond traditional notions of being just a provider, sharing how his journey into fatherhood has led him to confront his own limitations and learn the importance of embracing the present. He talks about how he actively strives to be a role model, coach, confidante, and even a punching bag for his son. He’s honest about the challenges, but there’s a real sense of joy and wonder in his voice when he talks about constantly evolving as a dad.If you're a dad, or even thinking about becoming one, this is the episode for you. It's a reminder that being present, being there for your kid, even in the messy, crazy, exhausting moments is the real gift Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

Jun 10, 2024 • 1h 1min
Ep 166: The “Zero-naire” effect and finding confidence in the smaller wins
It’s time for your 2024 midyear money check-in and in this episode, we discuss the importance of celebrating the overlooked smaller financial wins and milestones. We know the feeling – it's easy to get caught up in big goals, like buying a house or retiring early. But what about the smaller victories along the way?Julien reflects on the feeling of hitting "zero-naire" status after paying off debts, and how his mindset has shifted from constantly chasing a bigger number to finding contentment in the present. Kiersten reveals how shifting her perspective on saving from a rigid "all or nothing" approach to a more fluid and sustainable strategy led to greater financial confidence and a more positive relationship with money.We also discuss the power of "sweat equity" in both personal and financial growth, and explore how to apply this concept to everyday life. Whether it's cooking at home instead of eating out, cleaning your patio yourself, or finding ways to increase your savings rate, every small win counts!After this episode, you might be surprised at how much joy and progress you can achieve when you take the time to appreciate the little things. Links:Ep 71: Buying Used vs New We discuss:The power of mid-year check-ins and why they're critical for understanding your progress and re-evaluating your goals.The importance of celebrating small wins, even when they seem insignificant.The importance of sweat equity in our personal and financial lives, and how it can lead to a sense of accomplishment and purpose.The dangers of chasing hype and the importance of discerning between real financial wins and fleeting trends.The need to re-evaluate our approach to investing and learn about different strategies beyond traditional index funds.The importance of recognizing and appreciating the value of experiences, even if they come at a cost. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

Jun 3, 2024 • 43min
Ep 165: The "Soft Life" and How to Align Your Money Goals with Ease
This episode is a special one, inspired by a listener suggestion based on a recent event Kiersten spoke at with Ally and UnitedMasters called SelectCon! We're diving into the concept of the "soft life" and how it relates to money, financial goals, and entrepreneurship.Here's what we cover:SelectCon: We start by discussing our experience at SelectCon, a unique event hosted by UnitedMasters, an alternative to traditional record labels that empowers artists to retain ownership of their work. We talked about the financial literacy aspect of being an independent artist, which is where the "soft life" concept came into play.What is the "soft life"? We explore the meaning of the "soft life," how it's often portrayed online, and the differences in perception between men and women.The "soft life" for entrepreneurs: We discuss how to find a balance between hustling and creating a soft life as an entrepreneur, especially when it comes to financial decisions.Pay Yourself First: This episode features a deep dive into the concept of "paying yourself first," which is a key strategy for building a soft life, regardless of your career path.Value-based spending: We talk about how aligning your spending with your values can contribute to building a "soft life" that's sustainable and fulfilling.Brokerage accounts: We discuss the importance of brokerage accounts for entrepreneurs and those with inconsistent income, especially compared to traditional 401Ks.Inner work: We explore the psychological aspect of the "soft life" and the importance of inner work for achieving financial responsibility and a sense of ease.If you're interested in learning more about how to achieve financial freedom and create a soft life that works for you, this episode is for you! Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

May 27, 2024 • 43min
Ep 164: The New Rules of Success | Why 'get paid' beats 'follow your passion'
It's graduation season and the Class of 2024 faces a unique set of challenges: crushing student loan debt, a competitive job market, and the constant pressure to "hustle." In this episode, we're cutting through the noise and giving real, actionable advice for the new world of work.In this episode, we talk about:The truth about student loan debt: How it influences career choices and the need for financial securitySide hustle as a strategic move: Why this generation is turning to side gigs and how to use them to your advantageBurnout and economic uncertainty: Developing a practical approach to mental health and career advancementThe new rules of success: Forget "follow your passion," it's time to embrace a new philosophy: “get paid.”Playing the corporate game: How to play the game and protect your mental health This episode is for you if:You're graduating in 2024 and feeling overwhelmed by what's nextYou want to understand the unique challenges and opportunities facing the Class of 2024.You want to hear practical advice on how to make money and build a successful career.You're tired of the same old platitudes and want real talk on the realities of the modern workplace. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

May 20, 2024 • 34min
Ep 163: Beyond Summer Camp | Unconventional ways to fill the summer void
Is summer break a vacation, a project, or a chaotic mess? In this episode, we're diving into the reality of childcare during the summer months, exploring why even high-income families rely on relatives, and why traditional camps and daycare might not be the answer. Join us as we unpack the reality of summer childcare and discover creative solutions to make the break a time for growth, connection, and even some fun!Links: Most Parents Don't Have Any Formal Child Care Arrangements via US Census BureauFull Time Job, Zero Formal Child Care via The CutStarter list of free of cheap summer campsIn this episode:New Data Reveals the Truth: We discuss a surprising new U.S. Census study that shows most parents (61%) rely on non-formal childcare, with relatives topping the list.Beyond the Price Tag: Cost is a factor, but it's not the only thing driving summer childcare choices. Learn how lifestyle choices, family dynamics, and personal situations impact parents' decisions.Creative Solutions: Summer doesn't have to be a constant struggle. We share creative, fun, and often free ways to fill the summer with learning, play, and meaningful experiences for kids.The Power of Community: Discover how to tap into your community for support, from neighbors and friends to college students and teachers who might be seeking side gigs.PTA: Your Secret Weapon: We explore the often-overlooked resources and opportunities available through the PTA.Think Like a Teacher: Learn how to create a flexible summer schedule that's both engaging for your kids and relaxing for you. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

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May 13, 2024 • 40min
Ep 162: Get Noticed, Get Hired: How to sell yourself and win in this job market
Learn the art of self-promotion in the competitive job market. Explore the importance of showcasing yourself online and standing out. Understand the fear of rejection and strategies for overcoming mental hurdles. Empower yourself to take control of your career narrative and succeed.
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