
Mortification of Spin
Mortification of Spin is a casual conversation about things that count. Todd Pruitt and Carl Trueman deliver a humorous, informal podcast with bite. Listen for engaging and thought-provoking conversations on the challenges facing the Church and the Christian, and decide for yourself if words spoken in a British accent truly carry more weight…
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Apr 9, 2025 • 29min
The Order of Love
Todd and Carl, now officially an American citizen, dive into the challenging subject of immigration. Together, they explore the theological concept of the "order of love," its implications for prioritizing our obligations to others, and how this intersects with the responsibilities of the State versus the Church.
The situation is complicated. How do we navigate? How do we develop a hierarchy of loves and obligations that is faithful to Scripture but also handles the complexities that Scripture throws up? – Carl Trueman
In other words, how do we balance our responsibilities to our neighbors and the laws of the land? With references to contemporary issues and personal anecdotes, this episode challenges listeners to consider their perspectives on immigration and community, as Christians and citizens.
We are pleased to offer Mortification of Spin swag to three of our listeners, including a t-shirt, a baseball cap, and a mug! Enter here for the opportunity to win.

Mar 26, 2025 • 28min
Retrieving Christian Liberty
In this episode of Mortification of Spin, Carl and Todd engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Brad Littlejohn, director of Programs and Education at American Compass, about Brad's newly published book, Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License.
Christians in the modern West hear a lot about—and talk a lot about—"freedom." The word has taken on so many meanings that Christians often fail to realize how much our contemporary ideals of freedom stray from what freedom has meant in Scripture and the Christian tradition.
We need to redeem and recover a properly Christian way of thinking about freedom. – Carl Trueman
Today's conversation touches on the Reformation's impact on individual liberty, the tension between authority and conscience, and the contemporary challenges Christians face in understanding freedom.
As Protestants, we have to care about freedom because it's central to our theological heritage. – Brad Littlejohn
Tune in for an insightful exploration of these critical themes!
Thanks to the generosity of B&H Academic, we are pleased to offer three copies of Brad's book, Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License. Enter here for the opportunity to win one.
Show Notes:
Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License
https://bhacademic.bhpublishinggroup.com/product/called-to-freedom-3/#flipbook-sampler/

Mar 12, 2025 • 30min
Death Teaches Us How to Live
In this poignant episode, Todd and Carl welcome author Whitney Pipkin to discuss her book, We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death with Loved Ones Transforms Us. Drawing from her own experience, Whitney sheds light and hope, reminding us that we are not alone in our grief. And she reveals the mysterious way God ministers to and transforms us through death and suffering.
"The places you are most afraid to go, feel most ill-equipped to venture to, are the places Christ has gone before you." – Whitney Pipkin
Tune in as they explore how facing mortality can lead to deeper faith and understanding.
This is coming for each of us. How then shall we live? This is the question that each of us has the opportunity to consider at a funeral, but also when we read the news and when loss is far away, and when it's close, really close to home. – Whitney Pipkin
Thanks to the generosity of Moody Publishing, we are pleased to give away three copies of Whitney Pipkin’s book, We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death with Loved Ones Transforms Us. Congratulations to our winners: Katherine A. from Waterman, IL, Greg P. from Greenville, SC, and Timothy S. from Avondale, AZ!
Show Notes:
Whitney Pipkin’s Book https://www.moodypublishers.com/we-shall-all-be-changed/

Feb 26, 2025 • 29min
Digging Into Proverbs
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. – Proverbs 9:10
Today, Todd and Carl are joined by Chris Ansberry, associate professor at Grove City College, and a colleague of Carl's who refuses to wear socks, much to Carl's chagrin. Wardrobe choices aside, Chris recently wrote a commentary on the Book of Proverbs, published by Zondervan Academic as part of their Exegetical Commentary Series. Wisdom literature seems to be a little bit obscure to many students of the Bible, but Chris has a deep love for these books that have often been marginalized.
"Proverbs is not only designed to form our intellect, but it's also cultivating and directing our desires, it's shaping our forms of life, it's helping our perception – how do we see people, how do we see the world? So within that realm of ethics, I think that there's a lot in which Proverbs can do for us…I can't read Proverbs without seeing the same sort of moral vision that's on offer in the Sermon on the Mount." – Chris Ansberry
Discover the intricacies of wisdom literature and its place in Christian life and pastoral teaching. Find out how Proverbs can shape ethical understanding and spiritual formation, and how pastors can approach preaching from this often-overlooked biblical text. And find out the answer to Carl's question, "What is the church missing if the pastor never preaches on wisdom literature in general, and specifically if the pastor never preaches on Proverbs?"
Thanks to the generosity of Zondervan Academic, we are pleased to award copies of Chris Ansberry’s Commentary on Proverbs to three of our listeners. Congratulations to Donald T. from Omaha, NE, Keith F. from Troy, IL, and Yulia S. from Mililani, HI!
Show Notes:
Zondervan Exegetical Commentary Series:
Old Testament: https://zondervanacademic.com/promotions/zec#1151215
New Testament: https://zondervanacademic.com/promotions/zec#1151637
Chris Ansberry’s Proverbs Commentary: https://zondervanacademic.com/products/proverbs-2

Feb 12, 2025 • 31min
Gender Ideology and Pastoral Practice
Join Carl and Todd as they tackle the pressing issues of gender ideology and pastoral practice with special guests Mary Rice Hasson and Theresa Farnan from the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Mary and Theresa have worked on a book titled Gender Ideology and Pastoral Practice: A Handbook for Catholic Clergy, Counselors, and Ministerial Leaders, which Carl believes to be immensely valuable for Protestants and Catholics alike. Discover insights from their book as they discuss the challenges facing pastors today, from pronoun use to public education to the influence of social media on youth.
Our children feel so lonely and alone, so what do they do? They go online, and they find a community of people. So we, as churches – our role has to be that online community. I don't care what denomination you are; if you're not there giving community to your young people, they will go looking for it somewhere, and what they will find is so toxic. – Theresa Farnan
Learn how pastors and churches can equip themselves to address these complex issues with love and truth.
Thanks to the generosity of Notre Dame Press, we are pleased to award two copies of Gender Ideology and Pastoral Practice: A Handbook for Catholic Clergy, Counselors, and Ministerial Leaders to our listeners. Congratulations to Shawn H. from Porter, TX and Hillary H. from Orange City, IA!
Show Notes:
Ethics and Public Policy Center: https://eppc.org/
Person and Identity Project: https://personandidentity.com/
Gender, Ideology and Pastoral Practice: A Handbook for Catholic Clergy, Counselors and Ministerial Leaders

Jan 29, 2025 • 28min
Todd's Book of the Year
Todd and Carl, the self-proclaimed Hall and Oates of podcasting, spend a few minutes reflecting on the longevity of Mortification of Spin – "We've been doing this for over a decade now. Easily we must be one of the longest-standing podcast partnerships in history." They then turn their attention to today's returning guest and their friend, Kevin DeYoung, to discuss his latest book, Daily Doctrine: A One-Year Guide to Systematic Theology. Deemed by Todd to be his "Book of the Year,” this daily devotional has been designed to make systematic theology clear and accessible for the everyday Christian.
Daily devotions are a huge privilege and a tremendous powerhouse for Christian living. – Carl Trueman
The conversation delves into the importance of understanding systematic theology, the value of daily devotions, and how Kevin's book aims to equip lay Christians with the historic vocabulary of the church.
Thanks to the generosity of Crossway Publishing, we were pleased to award three copies of Kevin DeYoung's book, Daily Doctrine: A One-Year Guide to Systematic Theology, to our listeners. Congratulations to Elizabeth P. from Sioux Center, IA, Daniel L. from Gardena, CA, and Caleb H. from Huntsville, AL!
Show Notes:
Daily Doctrine: A One-Year Guide to Systematic Theology
https://reformedresources.org/daily-doctrine-a-one-year-guide-to-systematic-theology-hardcover

Jan 15, 2025 • 34min
Critical Theory from Marx to Marcuse
Todd is pretty excited to have today’s guest on “his podcast,” who is none other than his Mortification of Spin co-host, Carl Trueman. Together, they discuss Carl’s latest book, To Change All Worlds: Critical Theory from Marx to Marcuse, where Carl examines the historical roots of critical theory, its evolution, and its impact on contemporary culture.
I wanted to produce a book that was not a kind of “goodies” and “baddies” book…Everybody coming to critical theory has their opinion on whether the critical theorists are good guys or bad guys. I didn’t really want to address that. What I wanted to do was look at critical theory through the historical lens and say, okay, why did this group of men start thinking this way? What was going on? What sources are they using? What problems are they trying to address or questions are they asking in order to get below the surface? – Carl Trueman
Todd and Carl discuss some key figures of critical theory, such as Marx, Hegel, and Freud, and how they and other early critical theorists shaped modern thought. What are the implications for Christians today? Tune in to find out!
Thanks to the generosity of B&H Academics, we are pleased to award a copy of Carl’s book to Zach C. from Streator, IL!
Show Notes:
To Change All Worlds: Critical Theory from Marx to Marcuse
https://reformedresources.org/to-change-all-worlds-critical-theory-from-marx-to-marcuse-hardcover/

Jan 1, 2025 • 30min
Reclaiming the Dark Ages
Carl and Todd welcome Yannick Imbert and Iain Wright to discuss their new book, Reclaiming the Dark Ages: How the Gospel Light Shone from 500 to 1500. An often overlooked period, Yannick and Iain challenge the notion of the "Dark Ages" by highlighting key Christian figures and their contributions to church history including Leo the Great, Anselm of Canterbury, and Jan Hus.
We wanted to take a selection of church leaders across that thousand years...to show that God was not sitting on his hands for a thousand years. – Iain Wright
Discover how God’s work continued throughout this millennium and why these historical insights are relevant today. Whether you're a history enthusiast or new to church history, this episode offers a captivating exploration of faith across centuries.
Even we who are decidedly Reformed can actually acknowledge that there were Christians prior to the 16th century. – Carl Trueman
Thanks to the generosity of Christian Focus Publications, we awarded three copies of Yannick and Iain’s book to our listeners. Congratulations to Bruce M. from Conshohocken, PA, Aaron L. from Rochester Hills, MI, and Todd D. from Creston, IA!
Show Notes:
Reclaiming the Dark Ages: How the Gospel Light Shone from 500 to 1500

Dec 18, 2024 • 35min
The Juvenalization of American Christianity
Join us in this enlightening episode as Todd and Carl welcome Thomas Bergler, a distinguished professor of ministry and missions at Huntingdon University, to discuss his insightful book, The Juvenilization of American Christianity. What exactly is “juvenalization?”
Juvenilization is the process by which the beliefs, traits, developmental characteristics of adolescence become normative or celebrated for people of all ages. – Thomas Bergler
Delve into the fascinating exploration of how youth ministry has shaped the modern church, its unintended consequences, and the cultural shift towards therapeutic faith. Discover the historical roots of adolescence, the impact of pop culture on spirituality, and the importance of intergenerational worship.
If you are interested in the evolution of church practices and the future of faith communities, be sure to tune in.
Thanks to the generosity of Wm. B. Eerdman’s Publishing Company, we were able to award two copies of Thomas Bergler’s book to our listeners. Congratulations to Jay C. from Bothell, WA and Andrew C. from Las Vegas, NV!
Show Notes:
Books by Thomas Bergler:
The Juvenalization of American Christianity
From Here to Maturity: Overcoming the Juvenilization of American Christianity
Recommended by Thomas Bergler:
Handing Down the Faith: How Parents Pass Their Religion on to the Next Generation by Christian Smith and Amy Adamczyk

Dec 4, 2024 • 27min
Supernatural Christianity
Todd and Carl explore Christianity as a supernatural religion, diving deep into the Gospel of John and its portrayal of miracles as signs of Jesus' divine authority. Together they discuss the historical and philosophical shifts in belief systems from the Enlightenment to modern-day skepticism, and reflect on the modern quest for meaning and morality.
"We are creatures who crave meaning, and any intelligent atheist is going to acknowledge that." – Carl Trueman
Discover the opportunities present in today's cultural landscape for engaging with the supernatural claims of Christianity and the hope it offers in a world seeking meaning.
What an opportunity then for the public witness of the church – a message of hope that’s anchored in something that’s real and eternal. – Todd Pruitt
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