

The DownLink Podcast
The Defense & Aerospace Report
From the Defense & Aerospace Report... This is The DownLink Podcast, hosted by Laura Winter. From the intersection of space, business, and defense... Not just what's over the horizon, but what's happening above it.
The DownLink Podcast is 2023 and 2024 Defense Media Award-winner.
The DownLink Podcast is 2023 and 2024 Defense Media Award-winner.
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Mar 9, 2024 • 1h 7min
Space Power: Fines On Space Junk In The Pipeline And What’s Legal Salvage
Space Power: Fines On Space Junk In The Pipeline And What’s Legal Salvage
This episode is coming to you from the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., where the U.S. Space Command’s Office of the Staff Judge Advocate, and the Academy’s Law, Technology and Warfare Research Cell co-host the fourth annual USSPACECOM Legal Conference. Laura Winter is a guest of the event and is moderating a deep discussion on space debris, rules and regulations, and the legal challenges posed by salvage operations. Joining her for this discussion is Laura Megan-Posch, Assistant Chief Counsel, Regulations Division, Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation; Gabriel Swiney, Director, Policy, Advocacy, and International Division, Office of Space Commerce, NOAA, U.S. Department of Commerce; Charles Stotler, Professor of Practice and Director, Center for Air and Space Law, University of Mississippi School of Law; Vic Gardner, President and Global Head of PreSales, LeoLabs Federal, Inc.; and Lee Steinke, Chief Operating Officer, CisLunar Industries.

Mar 2, 2024 • 40min
Space Money: The Fortune 500 View From TE Connectivity’s Martin Cullen
Space Money: The Fortune 500 View From TE Connectivity’s Martin Cullen
It was a “new space” company - Intuitive Machines - that embraced risk and landed on the moon, not a blue-chip aerospace company. In this episode Laura Winter speaks with Martin Cullen, T-E Connectivity’s Senior Manager for Business Development and Strategy about emerging space-platforms, space business, and how large publicly traded companies are navigating risk to get in on the space economy and deliver value and returns to shareholders.

Feb 25, 2024 • 1h 2min
Space Competition: Can The US Deter Its Adversaries From Launching Cyberattacks on Space Systems?
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for Best Cyber Security Submission*
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for The John Morrocco Award for Best In-depth Defence Reporting*
Space Competition: Can The US Deter Its Adversaries From Launching Cyberattacks on Space Systems?
This month, two years ago, Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine started with a cyber attack that changed everything and yet nothing for the U.S. commercial space sector. This is the fourth and final in a series of episodes examining cyber attacks and space systems. Laura Winter speaks with Samuel Visner, Space Information Sharing and Analysis Center (Space-ISAC) Board Chair and Fellow at The Aerospace Corporation; Namrata Goswami, an independent scholar on space policy and great power politics and co-author of the book “Scramble for the Skies”; and Sean Costigan, the lead for NATO’s cybersecurity curriculum, and Managing Director, Resilience Strategy at Red Sift.

Feb 18, 2024 • 54min
Space Power: Securing Space Systems From Cyber Attack - “We Play Whack-A-Mole”
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for Best Cyber Security Submission*
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for The John Morrocco Award for Best In-depth Defence Reporting*
Space Power: Securing Space Systems From Cyber Attack - “We Play Whack-A-Mole”
This month, two years ago, Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine started with a cyber attack that changed everything and yet nothing for the U.S. commercial space sector. This is the third in a series of episodes examining cyber attacks and space systems. Laura Winter speaks with Samuel Visner, Space Information Sharing and Analysis Center (Space-ISAC) Board Chair and Fellow at The Aerospace Corporation; Greg Falco, an Assistant Professor at the Sibley School of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering and the Systems Engineering Program at Cornell University; and Ang Cui, Founder and CEO of Red Balloon Security.

Feb 10, 2024 • 52min
Space Tech: The Threat Landscape, A Cyber Vulnerability, And Ransoming A Satellite
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for Best Cyber Security Submission*
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for The John Morrocco Award for Best In-depth Defence Reporting*
Space Tech: The Threat Landscape, A Cyber Vulnerability, And Ransoming A Satellite
This month, two years ago, Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine started with a cyber attack that changed everything and yet nothing for the U.S. commercial space sector. This is the second in a series of episodes examining cyber attacks and space systems. Laura Winter speaks with Greg Falco, an Assistant Professor at the Sibley School of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering and the Systems Engineering Program at Cornell University; Ang Cui, Founder and CEO of Red Balloon Security; and Hector Falcon, a Cyber and Space Intelligence Integrator at the Space Information Sharing and Analysis Center.

Feb 3, 2024 • 50min
Space Money: When Nation States Target The Commercial Space Sector
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for Best Cyber Security Submission*
*2024 Defense Media Award Finalist for The John Morrocco Award for Best In-depth Defence Reporting*
Space Money: When Nation States Target The Commercial Space Sector
This month, two years ago, Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine started with a cyber attack that changed everything and yet nothing for the U.S. commercial space sector. This is the first in a series of episodes examining cyber attacks and space systems. Laura Winter speaks with Nick Saunders, Viasat’s Chief Cybersecurity and Data Officer for Government Systems, in his first sit-down interview since the satellite communications company weathered a notorious cyberattack on February 24, 2022; Erin Miller, the Space Information Sharing and analysis Center’s Executive Director; and Frank Backes, CEO of Capella Space, a company providing earth observation products to government commercial customers.

Jan 27, 2024 • 60min
Space Tech: A U.S. Space Force Bet That Could Truly Monetize Space Junk… For Real
Space Tech: A U.S. Space Force Bet That Could Truly Monetize Space Junk… For Real
This week’s episode is about a cunning plan the Space Force has invested in that aims to monetize space junk and large pieces of orbital debris by recycling it in space, for use as thruster fuel and structural beams. Laura Winter speaks with CisLunar Industries’ Co-founders CEO Gary Calnan and CTO Joe Pawelski; and Neumann Space’s CEO Herve Astier and Chief Scientist Paddy Neumann.

Jan 20, 2024 • 34min
Space Power: What the Space Force Needs Now For Cislunar Operations
Space Power: What the Space Force Needs Now For Cislunar Operations
This week, just after one failed commercial moon mission came back to earth and burned up in the atmosphere, Japan became the fifth nation to successfully reach the lunar surface. As launches to and landings on the Moon become more regular, it is expected that competition and possibly friction between national interests may intensify in Cislunar space. While the U.S. Space Force has the remit to secure U.S. interests in the Cislunar region, it is not truly equipped to do the job. Laura Winter speaks with Charles Galbreath, a Senior Resident Fellow for Space Studies at the Mitchell Institute’s Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence.

Jan 13, 2024 • 58min
SPACE TECH: Is NASA Surrendering The Promise of Space-Based Solar Power to China, ESA, And Japan?
SPACE TECH: Is NASA Surrendering The Promise of Space-Based Solar Power to China, ESA, Britain And Japan?
Jeers and scorn greeted NASA’s “Space-Based Solar Power” report, which if taken at face value, experts argue, could strategically disadvantage U.S. efforts to deliver cheap renewable energy, while competitors in the sector move forward. While the document confirms that Space-Based Solar Power is technologically attainable and would deliver electricity at a fraction of the cost to consumers, this episode’s guests say NASA’s assumptions are wildly out of date, do not take into account the current state of space technology, and ignore commonly-held industrial economic principles. Laura Winter speaks with John Mankins, a former NASA physicist, now President of Artemis Innovation Management Solutions, who designed the Solar Power Satellite concept, Alpha – Mark 3; Peter Garretson, an American Foreign Policy Council Senior Fellow, coauthor of the book “Scramble for the Skies The Great Power Competition to Control the Resources of Outer Space”; and Ed Tate, Co-Founder and CTO of Virtus Solis, a U.S Space-Based Solar Power company.

Jan 5, 2024 • 51min
Space Money: Has Investor Passion Left The Building?
Space Money: Has Investor Passion Left The Building?
This episode on Space Money is the 2024 year opener. It examines just what business and investment trends and events from 2023 are carrying over into the new year, and what to expect for space business and the space economy in 2024. Laura Winter speaks with Chris Quilty, founder of Quilty Space; George Pullen, Chief Economist at Milky Way Economy; and Jesse Klempner, a McKinsey & Company Partner.