

The DownLink Podcast
The Defense & Aerospace Report
From the Defense & Aerospace Report... This is The DownLink Podcast, hosted by Laura Winter. From the intersection of space, business, and defense... Not just what's over the horizon, but what's happening above it.
The DownLink Podcast is 2023 and 2024 Defense Media Award-winner.
The DownLink Podcast is 2023 and 2024 Defense Media Award-winner.
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Oct 13, 2024 • 42min
Space Tech: Talking To The Far Side of the Moon
In this engaging conversation, Tyler Mundt, Mission Director for iSpace US, Marchel Holle, U.S. Government Relations Lead for iSpace, and Greg Johnson, Director of Business Development at Swedish Space Corp, dive into the thrilling race for lunar resources. They discuss China's communication advancements on the Moon's far side and how iSpace's innovative lunar lander could reshape the landscape. The trio highlights the importance of establishing a robust lunar communications infrastructure and the potential for a thriving lunar economy driven by advanced technology.

Oct 6, 2024 • 47min
Space Money: Q3 Take - “Money Doesn’t Care”
Space Money: Q3 Take - “Money Doesn’t Care”
The Fed lending rate reduction was nice, but is it enough pressure on investors to empty their money market accounts and invest in space companies, even if it’s answering a defense-related demand signal? Laura Winter speaks with The DownLink regulars, Chris Quilty, Founder of Quilty Space; and George Pullen, Chief Economist at Milky Way Economy.

Sep 28, 2024 • 35min
Space Competition: How To Better De-Risk Adversarial Threats To Space Systems’ Value
Space Competition: How To Better De-Risk Adversarial Threats To Space Systems’ Value
This episode was recorded before a live audience at the Space Information Sharing and Analysis Center’s Value of Space Summit, convened in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The discussion focuses on threat trends, the lack of insurance cover for certain types of attacks; and how to better secure the value of space systems. Laura Winter speaks with Chris Kunstadter, President at Triton Space; Tomas Peña, Chief Technologist for Cyber Operations at L3Harris Technologies; and Sam Visner, the Space-ISAC Chairman.

Sep 20, 2024 • 31min
Space Power: Space Force CSO - “What We Were Is Not What We Must Become”
Space Policy: Space Force CSO - “What We Were Is Not What We Must Become”
The U.S. Chief of Space Operations Gen. Chance Saltzman announced on Tuesday that the Space Force has started to take over recruitment and training of uniformed and civilian Guardians, from “Mother Air Force”, to create a separate “space-minded” force to meet the nation’s requirements in the friction-filled era of “great power competition.” Laura Winter speaks with the Space Force’s first Chief Technology and Innovation Officer, Maj. Gen. Kim Crider (ret.), who is a Founding Partner of the space consultancy Elara Nova.

Sep 15, 2024 • 36min
Space Tech: Is It A Bird? A Plane? Actually... It’s A Drone
Space Tech: Is It A Bird? A Plane? Actually It’s A Drone
Space Force acquisitions officials have said for years that they want tactically-responsive commercial-off-the-shelf solutions that can be easily configured for military uses. The founders of BlackStar Orbital Technologies say their drone, a satellite-space plane hybrid, will answer the call, at a competitive price point. Laura Winter speaks with the BlackStar Orbital's co-Founders, CEO Christopher Jannette and CTO Kit Carson.

Sep 7, 2024 • 41min
Space Money: Starliner, A 737 Max Felony, and a New Boeing CEO
Space Money: Starliner, A 737 Max Felony, and a New Boeing CEO
With Boeing’s Starliner human-rated capsule safely on the ground, the Crew Flight Test mission has ended, but with incidents and without its crew, Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore. Boeing, a major supplier of space vehicles and services to NASA and the U.S. Space Force, is at a crossroads with a new CEO in charge. What should Boeing do? Laura Winter speaks with Richard Aboulafia, Managing Director at AeroDynamic Advisory; Todd Harrison, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute; and Clayton Swope, Deputy Director of the Aerospace Security Project and Senior Fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

Sep 1, 2024 • 46min
Space Competition: Geo-Strategic Questions Over NASA’s Plan to Destroy the ISS
Space Competition: Geo-Strategic Questions Over NASA’s Plan to Destroy the ISS
This is part 2 of a deep dive into NASA’s plan to destroy the 420-metric-tonne International Space Station by de-orbiting. This episode is about the geo-strategic consequences and risks associated with de-orbiting and alternative ideas for the space station after 2030. Part 1, “Space Technology: Holes Bubble Up In NASA’s Narrative On And Plan To De-Orbit The Space Station”, posted in July. Laura Winter speaks with Kazuto Suzuki, a member of the National Space Policy Committee of the Cabinet Office, the Government of Japan, Professor at the Graduate School of Public Policy at the University of Tokyo, Japan, and Director of the Institute of Geoeconomics at International House of Japan; and Namrata Goswami, an independent scholar on space policy and great power politics and co-author of the book “Scramble for the Skies: The Great Power Competition to Control the Resources of Outer Space”.

Aug 23, 2024 • 39min
Space Power: War-Gamers Say We’re “Behind the Eight Ball”
Space Power: War-Gamers Say We’re “Behind the Eight Ball”
What should the new U.S. vice president and the National Space Council do if China achieved a Sputnik-like moment? According to this week’s guests, we’re “Behind the Eight Ball”, which is the title of their first report on a series of recent wargames that included former NASA and Department of Defense political appointees, representing both major U.S. political parties. Laura Winter speaks with Peter Garretson, a Senior Fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council (AFPC) who also co-authored the book “The Next Space Race: A Blueprint for American Primacy” with the second guest; Richard Harrison, AFPC’s Vice President of Operations and Director of the Defense Technology Program.

Aug 10, 2024 • 36min
Space Tech: Defense Looking At Modular Upgrades For Greater SDA
Space Tech: Defense Looking At Modular Upgrades For Greater SDA
Space Command wants “enhanced battlespace awareness”, a clearer picture of what’s going on on orbit. This episode is about how a new set of modular technologies can provide satellite operators with “upgrades” and the opportunity to participate in the space domain awareness ecosystem, to serve military and commercial customers, and to generate new revenue streams. Laura Winter speaks with Ghonhee Lee, Founder and CEO of Katalyst Space Technologies, a company founded in 2020 that has a fistful of defense contracts.

Aug 3, 2024 • 28min
Space Money: Silicon Valley - “The DoD Has Not Brought The Dough”
Space Money: Silicon Valley - “The DoD Has Not Brought The Dough”
While it may not be surprising that space companies lead the Silicon Valley Defense Group's NATSEC100, there is an imbalance between the amount of capital venture capitalists are putting in and and the value of defense awards. Laura Winter speaks with James Cross, SVDG’s co-Founder and Executive Chairman, and Co-Head of Private Investing for Franklin Equity Group and Managing Director of Franklin Venture Partners.