
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast, heard in over 100+ countries, delivers no-nonsense insights on building beverage brands from the ground up. Host Chris Maffeo leverages 20 years of experience developing drinks across 30+ markets to interview founders, managers, bartenders, and distributors. Each episode reveals how brands grow from bottle to case to pallet, following the journey from glass back to production. Our philosophy: Brands are built bottom-up.
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Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2025 • 34min
100 | Chris Walker | Bootstrapped vs. VC Funded & The Pursue of Founder's Freedom
In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, Chris Maffeo welcomes Chris Walker, an entrepreneur known for his insights into bootstrapping and the modern startup environment (he is the Founder of Refine Labs and Passetto). His work on the Stacking Growth Podcast (Ex Revenue Vitals) inspired him to launch his podcast.They discuss common misconceptions about the need for venture capital, the importance of overcoming limiting beliefs, and the essential skills every founder should master. Chris shares his experiences and thoughts on why many businesses fail due to unnecessary funding and the mental barriers hindering entrepreneurship.The discussion also covers how to achieve personal alignment, the myth of media glorification, and the reality of building a sustainable business. Tune in for valuable lessons on creating and scaling businesses effectively.00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:09 Inspiration and Beginnings01:11 Bootstrapping vs. Venture Capital03:33 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs06:45 The Reality of Entrepreneurship 115:14 Procrastination and Action18:07 The Power of Self-Belief32:49 Final Thoughts and Farewell

May 20, 2025 • 41min
099 | Luke Hemsley | Targeting Midweek Drinking Occasions With Wednesday's Domaine's Alcohol-Free Wine
Luke Hemsley, founder of Wednesday's Domaine, dives into the world of alcohol-free wine, focusing on creating a sophisticated midweek alternative for food lovers. He discusses the challenges of awareness and consumer perception in a market that historically prioritizes beer and spirits. Luke emphasizes the evolution of social drinking, advocating for the enjoyment of alcohol-free options in social settings. He also shares insights on strategic marketing, the importance of independent retailers, and the balance founders must maintain between passion and delegation.

May 15, 2025 • 38min
098 | Paul Thomas | Good vs. Bad Market Research: From Bars to Boardrooms | Suntory Global Spirits
Paul Thomas, the 'king of insights' at Suntory Global Spirits, returns to share his expertise on understanding consumer behavior beyond just data. He emphasizes observing products in real environments rather than from marketing cold spots. The discussion covers the shift to occasion-based marketing and critiques the research industry's fast and cheap methodologies that undermine quality. Paul advocates for a balance of qualitative and quantitative research, stressing the importance of curiosity in developing effective brand strategies and enhancing consumer engagement.

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Apr 22, 2025 • 36min
097 | Racheal Vaughan Jones | Mastery & Imagination: How Compass Box is Redefining Whisky Marketing
Racheal Vaughan Jones, part of the marketing team at Compass Box, dives into how the brand redefines whisky by positioning itself as true 'whisky makers.' She discusses the recent transformation of their core range into four intuitive flavor profiles and the philosophy behind their 'Long Live Interesting' branding. Racheal also highlights the award-winning 'Hedonism' limited edition, showcasing its collaboration with female artists. The conversation reveals innovative local marketing strategies and the emotional storytelling that enhances consumer connections.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 37min
096 | David Gluckman | That Sh*t Will Never Sell: Drinks Brands. From The Bottom-up (And Sometimes Not!)
David Gluckman, a drinks industry icon and author of "That Sh*t Will Never Sell," shares his journey of creating legendary brands like Baileys and Ciroc. He dives into the flaws of traditional consumer research and emphasizes the value of hands-on testing and liquid excellence in product development. David discusses the critical nature of ownership in brand success and how great beverages can thrive without conventional marketing. Tune in for engaging stories and insights that blend creativity with business savvy.

Mar 24, 2025 • 33min
095 | Chris Maffeo | Scaling the Unscalable: The Bottom-Up Approach to Brand Building by MAFFEO DRINKS
Join this episode with Shawn Soole from the Post Shift Podcast In this episode, Chris shares invaluable insights on how small brands, such as bars, restaurants, distilleries, and breweries, can effectively build their brand. From understanding the importance of local success before expanding to managing relationships with importers and distributors, Chris breaks down the fundamentals of brand building. They also discuss the challenges and strategies for maintaining authenticity while scaling, the role of passion versus business in the drinks industry, and navigating the complexities of the B2B2B2C market. Whether you’re a newcomer or an established player in the beverage world, this episode is filled with actionable advice to help you succeed.00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:31 Guest Introduction: Chris Maffeo02:04 Chris Maffeo's Background and Career Journey04:58 Brand-Building Fundamentals10:58 Challenges and Strategies in the Craft Spirits Industry16:49 Scaling and Distribution Insights19:11 Balancing Passion and Business25:06 Entrepreneurial Advice and Future Plans32:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Mar 13, 2025 • 40min
094 | Roberta Mariani | Beyond Brand Training: Education & The Evolution of Aperitivo with Savoia & Italicus
Roberta Mariani, Advocacy Director for Savoia and Italicus Spirits, brings a wealth of hospitality expertise to the conversation. She discusses the rise of aperitivo culture, tracing its growth from niche to mainstream. Roberta emphasizes the importance of brand advocacy and educating consumers about unique production methods. The role of Italian bartenders in shaping global drinking habits is highlighted, along with the significance of well-being within the industry. Listeners gain valuable insights into cocktail creation and the push for a more inclusive bar environment.

Mar 3, 2025 • 38min
093 | Sophie Cookson | Cracking Distribution, Bottom-Up in Dubai and The Gulf with Craft & Culture UAE
In this engaging discussion, Sophie Cookson, a seasoned liquor industry expert and founder of Craft & Culture UAE, dives into the nuances of the Middle Eastern market. She highlights the transformative landscape in Dubai and the critical role of duty-free in brand marketing. Sophie shares strategies for small brands facing challenges and opportunities, emphasizing the importance of local presence and community support. Tune in for insights on navigating regulations and empowering bartenders, all while exploring the dynamic liquor scene of the Gulf region.

Feb 20, 2025 • 27min
092 | Francois Monti | Scaling a City Cocktail Culture Through Middle-Tier Bars
Francois Monti, a cocktail writer and the owner of Amarguería, dives into the complexities of the cocktail industry. He discusses the disparity between elite bars and emerging markets, stressing the importance of local bars in cultivating cocktail culture. Francois highlights the critical need for skilled bartenders and foundational taste education, while advocating for mentorship and diverse career paths within the profession. He emphasizes the benefit of strong trade relationships to elevate cocktail quality and enrich the overall drinking experience for consumers.

Feb 10, 2025 • 38min
091 | Nick Guerrieri | One Store at The Time: Converting Demand Through Sampling with Chelly, Modernized Limoncello
Nick Guerrieri, founder of Chelly, brings a fresh twist to limoncello from Arizona. He discusses transforming traditional recipes by reducing sugar and viscosity, making limoncello versatile for cocktails. Guerrieri emphasizes grassroots sampling and personal storytelling as key marketing strategies. His distinctive branding, including signature lemon shirts, sets Chelly apart. He shares insights on blending consumer feedback with local pride to expand his brand's reach, underscoring the power of community connections in the beverage industry.