

The Online Course Show
Jacques Hopkins
The Online Course Show is all about exchanging knowledge and helping course creators succeed. I LOVE going straight to the source and hearing people’s firsthand knowledge about what has worked for their business. And it’s always great to share my own observations and bounce ideas off other people in the same entrepreneurial space.
There is something for everyone on the show. Funnel hacking, high level strategy, nitty gritty processes, book reviews, productivity tips… the list goes on.
My guests and our discussions run the gamut: we leave no niche uncovered and no online course topic unexplored!
Maybe you’re just starting to think about creating an online course. Or maybe you’re 15 years in with a flourishing membership and millions of YouTube views. No matter where you are in your journey, The Online Course Show is the best way to stay current on online course trends and learn from successful course creators.
There is something for everyone on the show. Funnel hacking, high level strategy, nitty gritty processes, book reviews, productivity tips… the list goes on.
My guests and our discussions run the gamut: we leave no niche uncovered and no online course topic unexplored!
Maybe you’re just starting to think about creating an online course. Or maybe you’re 15 years in with a flourishing membership and millions of YouTube views. No matter where you are in your journey, The Online Course Show is the best way to stay current on online course trends and learn from successful course creators.
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Mentioned books

Aug 4, 2020 • 36min
143: Road Trip Recap and The Online Course Guy CANCELLED?
At long last I’m back with my co-host, Dr. David Krohse. On today’s episode we’re talking all things road trip plus discussing why I recently had to take a step back and reassess my goals for The Online Course Guy and this podcast. We also got into our top podcast and audiobook recommendations… and David’s favorite song to mop to. ;)
" Trips like these are why I wanted to create this kind of online business."
- Jacques Hopkins
We enjoyed catching up and filling each other in on what’s been going on over the last several weeks. Buckle up, and whatever you do, don’t rent a Ford F 150 for a long road trip!
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:32) Getting back into the swing of things after traveling
(1:55) Highs and lows from the road
(9:07) The freedom of having an online business
(9:50) Favorite roadtrip stops for my family and David’s stops
(13:20) A funny story from David and our thoughts on gamification
(17:24) Podcast and audiobook recommendations
(23:25) Driving, posture, and theme songs
(26:26) Reassessing my goals and my brands
(29:47) Introducing David’s story to new listeners
(32.25) Recent interviews I’ve done and why I’m excited about them
(35:15) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Guy.
Links
Bonjoro Free Trial
The 4-Hour Workweek
Strava
Harmon Brothers podcast
JP Sears podcast
The Pumpkin Plan
Toiletpaper Entrepreneur
Fix This Next
Profit First
Dotcom Secrets
Capital Gains
Joe Rogan podcast - Dr. Rhonda Patrick episode
Joe Rogan podcast - Kevin Hart episode
The Online Course Guy
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jul 28, 2020 • 5min
142: Ask The Online Course Guy
We’re keeping things short and sweet on this last episode before I return to my typical show format with co-host Dr. David Krohse. Today, I want to give you an opportunity to have your most pressing question about online course businesses answered. Make sure you stay all the way through to the end!
"Now is your chance. Now is your opportunity."
- Jacques Hopkins
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:37) Welcoming new listeners and a heads up about the podcast schedule
(1:19) The opportunity I’m presenting
(2:12) What I’m seeing in my podcast behind the scenes after recent interviews
(2:39) How you can help my show grow and also be rewarded for your effort
(3:18) Why I like to reply to people with videos when I can
(3:47) How you can get your question answered
(4:57) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Guy.
Links
Bonjoro Free Trial
Smart Passive Income interview
ChooseFi Interview
The Online Course Guy
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jul 21, 2020 • 1h 25min
141: Week 4 & 5 of 5- Running an Online Course Business from the Road
I’m back with another on-the-road episode of The Online Course Show, this time coming to you all the way from Sedona, Arizona! Like the last several weeks, I’m recording this episode on my phone and keep things pretty simple since I’m traveling with my family.
Soon I’ll be back to my normal setup in my home office and my normal interview format along with co-host Dr. David Krohse. But right now I want to share with you some content from my “Simple Path to Online Course Success” webinar. I’m sharing this for two reasons: because the content itself is very valuable and because it’s the best way for you to understand the structure and flow of how my evergreen webinars work.
" I had no idea what I was doing when I got started and I was not an overnight success story… but eventually I figured it out and got results that were better and better. January 2017 brought in $22,000 in revenue and I have not gone below that in a single month since then."
- Jacques Hopkins
I appreciate you being here whether you’re a new listener or someone who’s been tuning all along! And I hope the info I share in this week’s episode sparks some food for thought about how your online course business can excel.
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(1:59) Traveling in 2020
(3:14) The business-related tasks I’m still doing each day
(4:57) The evergreen webinar content we’re covering in today’s episode, and why
(6:42) Welcoming new listeners
(8:07) Introducing the webinar and setting expectations
(10:04) Why I have credibility on this topic
(13:39) The 2 groups of people who will find this information useful
(14:45) You don’t need a big team or a huge amount of upfront investment to get started
(16:00) My thoughts on “overnight success” and my own journey
(17:29) Why someone who is not a “piano expert” is a successful piano course creator
(18:16) How this Online Course Show came to be
(18:56) Breaking success down into synergistic components
(21:42) Why I care more about setting up a good funnel than paid ads
(23:11) The joy of feeling like your business actually makes an impact
(24:58) How to set up the number one factor for success
(26:01) The key to generating consistent traffic without paid ads
(32:20) The value of sticking with a platform such as YouTube
(33:50) The evolution of my funnel and the strategy that made the biggest difference
(42:55) The importance of not over-complicating your funnel
(46:36) Focusing on transformation for your customers
(49:12) How I get reviews and testimonials
(55:52) Recommendations and free offers
(58:36) The Online Course Accelerator for new course creators
(1:01:52) Next Level Courses for course creators who want to level up
(1:12:33) Alternatives if you want to be a part of Next Level Courses without ClickFunnels
(1:17:54) Next Level Courses timeline
(1:22:41) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Guy.
Links
Bonjoro Free Trial
Deadline Funnel Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Smart Passive Income interview
ChooseFi Interview
Expert Secrets
Jacques’ Courses:
The Online Course Accelerator
Next Level Courses
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jul 14, 2020 • 15min
140: Week 3 of 5 – Running an Online Course Business from the Road
What a week it has been! I literally recorded this episode standing in the middle of Yellowstone National Park while my kids were napping. My family is on week three of a summer roadtrip, and while that’s leading me to do some unconventional podcast episodes, it’s also reminding me just how much I enjoy being my own boss. ;)
"This is not a magic pill… but every day that passes I get better and better at this stuff."
- Jacques Hopkins
I hope you enjoy catching a glimpse of the freedom that having a successful online course can provide!
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:58) Recording on the road and introducing the show to new listeners
(2:39) A road trip update (bison and elk and nerve-wracking Arizona roads, oh my!)
(6:09) How my business is going while I’m away
(6:41) An exciting guest appearance I got to make recently
(7:36) Why and how I started my podcast
(10:24) Recommending key episodes for new listeners, plus a disclaimer
(12:16) Why you belong here and what’s coming up on my agenda for next week
(13:26) An invitation if you found your way here via Smart Passive Income
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Guy.
Links
Bonjoro Free Trial
Smart Passive Income interview
Episode 89: Start Here
Episode 107: How Should an Online Course Fit with Your Other Content?
Episode 100: The Online Course Girl
Episode 96: Evergreen Funnels 101
Episode 121: About to Give Up and This One Thing Changed Everything
Free Training for Smart Passive Income Listeners
The Online Course Guy
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days

Jul 7, 2020 • 27min
139: Week 2 of 5 – Running an Online Course Business from the Road
One of the big reasons I always wanted to start my own online business was to allow my family more freedom to travel and see the world. Right now we’re on the road for a 5-week trip, but that doesn’t mean that things aren’t still humming along for my business! I’m still checking in with my team, sales are still coming in, and I still have a whole lot of thoughts that may be helpful no matter where you are on your online course journey. ;)
"The allure of passive income is great… but it’s very rare where you’ve got that situation and don’t have to do some regular maintenance."
- Jacques Hopkins
I’m excited to share my thoughts on this short-and-sweet solo episode, so I hope you like what you hear!
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:42) Why this episode is different (and an audio quality disclaimer)
(1:22) The reason I always wanted to have my own online business
(2:31) How I engage with new students on a personal level - and why
(7:17) Staying on top of things while traveling across multiple states
(8:39) Thoughts on “courses about courses” vs courses in other niches
(12:29) A potential disadvantage to the way I do things
(14:38) Thinking about being proactive both in life and in business
(23:02) The importance of regularly checking in with your system
(24:32) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of the “out of office” version of my The Online Course Show.
Links
">Bonjoro Free Trial
">Deadline Funnel Free Trial
">The 4-Hour Workweek
">Episode 138
">The Online Course Guy
">Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
">David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jun 30, 2020 • 15min
138: Week 1 of 5 – Running an Online Course Business from the Road
I’m on the road with my family and chronicling how I run my online course business at the very same time! This and the next few episodes is going to be short and sweet, because as much as I love my Online Course Show audience, I love my family more. ;) But that doesn’t mean we can’t dive into how my business and my work process functions while I’m away from home.
"Being able to do something like this and still be able to run my business and serve others is one of the main reasons I got into this."
- Jacques Hopkins
I hope you enjoy catching a glimpse of the freedom that having a successful online course can provide!
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:44) Why this episode is different (and an audio quality disclaimer)
(1:35) My plan for upcoming episode content
(2:50) The very first thing I do when I get ready for working away from home
(3:29) My most essential daily tasks
(5:13) Am I still livestreaming during my trip?
(5:59) Website updates and segmentation
(7:36) New training I’m making available on my site
(8:34) A recent funnel fire I had to put out - while on a walk with my family
(13;03) A realization regarding online courses about online courses
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Guy.
Links
Bonjoro Free Trial
The 4-Hour Workweek
The Online Course Guy
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jun 23, 2020 • 49min
137: What I Spend Each Month In My Online Course Business
When you’re starting an online course business, you probably have a lot of questions about what it will take to keep that course running smoothly every month. My business has evolved a lot over time, and that means my expenses have evolved too. And that’s what we’re here to talk about today!
"You have to be your own CFO"
- David Krohse
No matter what stage your business is in, you probably have expenses! In this episode we’re taking a look at all the essential tools and services I pay for - and why I think they’re worth it.
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:47) Dave’s story about being in an online course mindset and cost/benefit analysis
(3:52) My latest launch
(5:25) Learning from imperfect leaders and thinking about success
(8:39) A life update made possible by my online course business
(10:04) Setting the stage for discussion of my monthly expenses
(14:10) My credit card rewards recommendation
(14:46) Spending on tools, ads, and cloud storage
(21:46) What I’m doing for Instagram content so far
(24:08) Physical pack components and how I handle shipping
(28:04) More expenses and outsourcing costs
(29:28) Why I love StreamYard
(32:31) Staying organized, handling ads, and customizing communications
(34:51) Thoughts on Wistia, Canva, and Zoom
(37:07) Payments I handle outside of my credit account
(37:25) How much did I spend on advertising, course supplies, and processing fees in April?
(39:13) Contractors’ fees and handling business while away
(39:56) My experience with Evolved Finance so far
(41:27) My business wishlist and what I’m enjoying being able to afford for my business
(43:22) Pitfalls new business owners should be aware of
(46:34) Three key tools and why I didn’t include them in my monthly expenses
(47:37) Wrapping up
Thank you for listening in – I hope you enjoyed what you learned! We’ll be back with another episode soon of The Online Course Show soon.
Links
Deadline Funnel Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Active Campaign Free Trial
Bonjoro Free Trial
Episode 28
Next Level Courses
Evolved Finance
Chase Business
Backupify
Auphonic
GSuite
Stunning
WP Engine
TrustPilot
Later
Custom Ink
Lightning Press
Moo
Flashbay
Sticker Mule
Typeform
Upwork
StreamYard
Ulku Logistics
Calendly
Conversion Owl
PicSnippets Free Trial
Wistia
Vimeo
Canva
Zoom
Zapier
Sony A63400 camera
Piano In 21 Days Instagram
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jun 16, 2020 • 52min
136: Webinar CONTENT – How to Structure Your Webinar to SELL Your Online Course
Stacks and secrets and sales - oh my! We’re talking all about webinar content today, because I firmly believe that your webinar can be a huge driver of sales if you set it up right. If they check certain boxes for the audience and are structured in a certain way, they can really help your audience break their false beliefs about your niche.
"You’ve got to help people break through objections."
- Jacques Hopkins
David and I had a lot of fun discussing the ins and outs of my webinar and what I’ve learned over the years of working on it. Once you understand the basic structure of how to do an effective webinar presentation, you can apply this knowledge to just about any niche!
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(1:44) Life updates and recent events
(4:03) Facebook communities and why I’ve been going live more often
(9:24) A book recommendation and update from David
(13:29) The Win of the Week
(16:58) My top 4 favorite tools
(17:35) Do webinars work?
(20:53) Webinar icebreakers and presentation openers
(22:12) Incentivizing attendees to watch the whole webinar
(24:14) How to use an epiphany bridge
(26:46) The importance of stories
(27:20) Creating “The 3 Secrets” from false beliefs, with examples from my niche
(31:24) How to deal with skepticism
(32:20) The 3 types of false beliefs, with more examples
(37:29) Transitioning into selling
(39:11) “The Stack” for webinars
(42:54) How to do a price reveal
(44:45) Storytelling to combat false beliefs
(47:45) Ending your webinar + thoughts on webinar length
(49:24) Wrapping up
Thank you for listening in – I hope you enjoyed what you learned! We’ll be back with another episode soon of The Online Course Show soon.
Links
Deadline Funnel Free Trial
Bonjoro Free Trial
Share Your Win of the Week
How to Stop Worrying and Start Living
Expert Secrets
Episode 18
CopyWriting Secrets
Jacques’ Course - Next Level Courses
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert

Jun 9, 2020 • 47min
135: The ULTIMATE Online Course Funnel
When I first started my online course business, I didn’t even really know what a “funnel” was. Sales funnels can be confusing, even for people who are a bit savvier than I was back then! And that’s why David and I are doing a deep-dive into the why and what of funnels – plus how I’ve set mine up to drive sales for my online piano course.
"The importance of a funnel is really building a rapport and a relationship with your prospective customer."
- Jacques Hopkins
Wherever you’re at on your online course journey, you can benefit from taking a close look at your sales funnel (or lack thereof)! And you just may want to break out the notepad and pen for this one. ????
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(2:27) My update on affiliate promotions for my piano course plus more exciting milestones
(8:05) Thoughts on creating moments of celebration
(10:36) Tips and tricks for better posture with Doctor David
(15:40) The Win of the Week
(19:56) Funnels: how I started mine and how I hope to help in this episode
(22:25) The psychology of my website homepage and opt-in
(24:54) Surveying and segmenting my potential students
(27:00) Creating a two-pronged enrollment window
(28:42) Hot leads and evergreen webinars
(29:36) How I provide value to potential students and build rapport
(30:54) Why I don’t constantly promote my webinar to people in my funnel
(31:57) Staying out of the Spam folder
(32:33) Opening enrollment
(33:31) Closing cart and ending the funnel
(34:07) Offering incentives + how I plan to tweak this process
(38:43) The value of my funnel and why funnels alone don’t equal sales
(40:59) Thinking about relaunching and future webinars
(43:45) How you can see my funnel emails firsthand
(44:29) An exciting update for course creators who want to take their course business to the next level
(45:41) Wrapping up
Thank you for listening in – I hope you enjoyed what you learned! We’ll be back with another episode soon of The Online Course Show soon.
Links
Deadline Funnel Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Share Your Win of the Week
Episode 125
Expert Secrets
Jacques’ Course – Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course – Wellness Program Expert

Jun 2, 2020 • 58min
134: Privacy Policies, Terms of Use, and Other LEGAL Considerations for Course Creators
If you’re like me, the legal side of an online course business can be intimidating. Privacy policies, trademarks, pirating… so many legal concerns to consider! Fortunately, lawyer and course creator Autumn Witt is here on today’s episode to break down some of the most important considerations in this topic for online course businesses.
"I put a lot [of my audience's feedback] into packaging up what needed to be in my course."
- Autumn Witt
Autumn shared a wealth of insight on how new and old course creators alike can identify legal concerns and take action no matter what stage your business is in. I’m still mulling over what I learned in today’s episode, and I’m definitely going to be taking some of Autumn’s advice for my own online course business.
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(3:32) Celebrating wins and sharing a fun giveaway I did for my piano students
(6:16) What makes this podcast different
(6:55) What percent of my students are in the US, and what does that have to do with my accent?
(9:29) An idea I’m considering as a way to serve my students better
(12:56) Affiliate updates for my course
(17:02) Introducing Autumn and how she helps course creators
(19:58) The biggest mistake course creators make when it comes to legal considerations
(20:43) Privacy policies, disclaimers, and terms of use
(23:33) Templates versus working with an attorney for custom legal advice
(24:20) Big online course names that Autumn has worked with
(24:54) Legal concerns to know when starting an online course
(26:36) Dealing with refund requests and disputed charges
(28:27) How scaling up affects your business legally
(29:41) How much does registering a trademark cost?
(30:53) Questions about pirating and plagiarism
(34:50) Autumn’s own online course journey
(37:04) Who can benefit from Autumn’s course
(38:43) Favorite tools and platforms
(40:22) Autumn’s advice for new course creators
(42:25) Her team and where to find her online
(43:32) David and I discuss how not to be an ostrich
(45:23) Thoughts on handling disputes and choosing your battles
(49:47) Reducing barriers to entry versus covering your legal bases
(51:56) Trademark stories with David
(53:33) Respect and dealing with unreasonable people
(57:16) Wrapping up
Whew, that about does it for today! Thanks so much for tuning in!
Links
Deadline Funnel Free Trial
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Share Your Win of the Week
Paul’s YouTube Channel
Episode 80
Jacques' Course - Piano in 21 Days
David’s Course - Wellness Program Expert


