
The Dispatch Podcast
Host Sarah Isgur is joined by Steve Hayes, and Jonah Goldberg for a weekly thoughtful discussion on politics, policy, and culture.
Latest episodes

Jan 12, 2023 • 1h 12min
The Biden Files
Declan joins Sarah, David and Steve to break down President Biden’s classified documents scandal. The team then discusses McCarthy's backroom dealing, the proposed SANTOS act, and the riots in Brazil. Plus: An anatomically descriptive Worth Your Time(?) segment that made David deeply uncomfortable.Show Notes:The Dispatch: House GOP Moves to Messaging Bills and InvestigationsProposed Bill Text: SANTOS Act The Atlantic: Prince Harry’s Book Undermines the Very Idea of Monarchy
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Jan 5, 2023 • 1h 4min
Creatures of Capitol Hill
As the House enters a third day of its parade of pettiness, Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss Kevin McCarthy’s slow, tortuous slug of concessions towards becoming a speaker in name only. Also on the agenda: Biden’s 2024 vision, Mayor Pete’s carpetbagging, and the online right’s grotesque response to Damar Hamlin’s cardiac arrest.Out of context: “That is a trifecta of wrongness.”
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Jan 3, 2023 • 29min
Sen. Sasse's Exit Interview
Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse will resign from Congress and take on a new role in February as President of the University of Florida. Sasse, a junior senator from Nebraska and member of the Republican party, has been a vocal critic of Trump's influence on the right and the GOP.He joins Steve Hayes to discuss the dangers of infotainment, the increasing tribalism of American politics, the future of academic freedom, and why he believes he can affect more change by leaving Congress.Show Notes:-The Dispatch Podcast: Ben Sasse on Afghanistan and Reflections on September 11-The Remnant: Fighting for Lost Causes
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Dec 26, 2022 • 33min
Inflation, Recession and the Fed
Inflation has driven the cost of living to a record high and most recent reports are giving mixed signals about what to expect. Declan is joined by Desmond Lachman, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, to talk about interest-rate hikes and Lachman's critiques of the Fed in what he calls "monetary policy overkill." Show Notes:-Desmond Lachman: “The Fed is playing with fire with its continued interest-rate hikes” -CPI Index released on Dec. 13th-The CME FedWatch Tool mentioned by Declan-Desmond Lachman’s American Enterprise Institute profile
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Dec 23, 2022 • 1h 5min
The Year of the Exhausted Majority
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David (who heroically dragged himself from bed at the crack of the Tennessee dawn) discuss some of the best and worst stories of 2022. What will make the list? The Russian invasion? The Artemis launch? Asteroid nudging? The Ye-Fuentes summit? The resurgence of COVID in China? The unveiling of Donald Trump’s NFT? Come for the review of a wild year, stay for the wild(?) predictions for 2023.Plus: a gut-check update on the Sarah-Steve bet.Show Notes:-The Morning Dispatch on Zelensky’s speech-Asteroid: nudged!-Jonah’s rant on the crazy and insane attempt to retire bad words
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Dec 22, 2022 • 32min
Ripping Off the Band-Aid of Title 42
"Title 42," the pandemic-era immigration restriction, was slated to expire December 21, until the Supreme Court stepped in. Now, the Biden administration and conservatives are in loggerheads on what to do next. Esther sits down with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, the Policy Director at American Immigration Council to discuss the historical context behind Title 42, its impact on border crossings, and what we might expect if it goes away.Show Notes:-Aaron Reichlin-Melnick’s American Immigration Council (AIC) profile-AIC's Guide to Expulsions at the Border-Docket filings related to the Application for Emergency Stay
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Dec 15, 2022 • 1h 12min
Did Trump Cross the Mendoza Line?
With new polls showing Donald Trump losing his grip on the Republican base, Sarah, David, and Steve debate the do's and don'ts of gauging Trump's political altitude. They also discuss Ron DeSantis' attempt to court the vax-skeptic voter, the recent COVID outbreaks in China, and what the implosion of Sam Bankman-Fried tells us about America's cult of the CEO. Plus: Should we be talking about MTG?Show Notes:-Josh Kraushaar on Trump's declining position
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Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 6min
Why Mitch Can't Have Nice Things
Will the aftermath of Herschel Walker's defeat in Georgia create a rare window for Republican introspection? And can the infotainment right be part of the solution? Sarah, David, Jonah and Steve also discuss what we know (and don’t know) about the Hunter Biden scandal, wonder what ever happened to the Electoral Count Reform Act, and catch up on what’s going on in the rest of the world.Show Notes:-The Twitter thread that caught Steve's eye
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Dec 2, 2022 • 1h 14min
What Should We Be Doing?
Sarah, David, Jonah and –– believe it or not! –– Steve discuss whether and how the United States should support dissidents in China and Iran, ponder the poetic timing of the Fuentes dinner, and lament the intractability of America’s gun debate.
Also: why is it so difficult to enjoy America beating Iran in the World Cup (besides it being soccer)?
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Nov 30, 2022 • 35min
The Desperate Despots Club
With the war not going as smoothly as he might have hoped, Putin turns to Iran for help replenishing Russia's arsenal. Frederick W. Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at AEI, joins David to explain the nature of this alliance-of-convenience and where things could go from here.Show Notes:-Critical Threats: Ukraine Stream-Critical Threats: Iran Crisis Updates
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