

The ACO Show
Aledade Inc
The ACO Show explores the latest developments in the U.S. health care system, with a focus on value-based care and accountable care organizations (ACOs). Join co-hosts Josh Israel, MD, senior medical director of Quality, and Sean Cavanaugh, chief of Policy at Aledade, in conversations with experts, policymakers and clinicians to understand how value-based care is good for patients, practices and society. The ACO Show is produced by Aledade.
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Dec 1, 2025 • 30min
197. The Future of Primary Care with Shawn Martin
Shawn Martin, executive vice president and CEO of the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss challenges with the future of primary care, particularly independent primary care practices. Martin believes that value-based care has helped sustain rural health care practices and that the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) will serve as the foundation for value-based care moving forward. Martin stresses the benefits of partnering with support organizations, like accountable care organizations (ACOs), in succeeding in value-based care and outlines opportunities for the AAFP to partner with ACOs to support physician independence, provide value-based care training and advocate for rural health care funding.

Nov 3, 2025 • 28min
196. What is the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA)? with Margaret E. O’Kane
Margaret E. O’Kane, CEO, president and founder of the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA), joins Joshua Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss how the organization has helped transform quality measurement in the American health care system. Over the past 35 years, O'Kane and the NCQA have developed quality measurement standards for clinicians while striving to minimize the administrative workload that comes with an expanding array of quality metrics. O’Kane advocates for a future where quality measures are better integrated into health care technology systems, emphasizing that systemic changes are crucial for improving quality, rather than solely focusing on individual physicians.
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Oct 6, 2025 • 22min
195. Unlocking Independence for Primary Care Clinicians
Join Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh, along with Brittney Anderson, MD, family physician and podcaster (“Physicians Hanging a Shingle”) and Dan Bowles, general manager of practice health at Aledade, to discuss Anderson’s journey to owning her own private practice, and how she supports other physicians seeking independence. Both Anderson and Bowles believe value-based care is crucial for independent primary care practices, and that greater exposure to independent practice models is essential to provide physicians with more employment options. As Bowles explains, this is the driving force behind Aledade’s effort to support physicians looking for information and a path to their own independent practice.
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Sep 15, 2025 • 27min
194. 2024 MSSP Results with Farzad Mostashari, MD and Sandeep Mann, MD
Join Josh Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh in their video debut as they discuss the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) results for 2024 released by CMS with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, MD They explore how Aledade Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs) earned more than $1 billion in total savings and continue to improve performance year over year, including substantially reducing hospitalizations. We also sit down with Sandeep Mann, MD, primary care physician and Aledade partner since 2015, to explore how his practice has thrived in value-based care.
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Jul 28, 2025 • 35min
193. Breaking down CMMI’s new strategy with Abe Sutton and Farzad Mostashari, M.D.
Abe Sutton, Director of the Innovation Center at CMS, joins Farzad Mostashari, M.D., CEO of Aledade, to discuss CMMI’s new strategic framework. They dive into the WISeR Model, utilizing AI to streamline prior-authorization requests and avoid unnecessary services. Sutton elaborates on the Ambulatory Specialty Model, which incentivizes specialists for better health outcomes in senior patients. Key topics also include enhancing patient access to health data and promoting competition in healthcare markets, highlighting innovative approaches to value-based care.

Jul 23, 2025 • 15min
192. The Road Show: What makes a good ACO partner?
Join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh for part two of their most recent road trip visiting primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. First, they visited Dr. Arvinder Bir and Dr. Seema Bir, Aledade partners in California, to discuss how Aledade has helped enable their practice to reduce patient hospitalizations and remain independent. Next, they visited Varesh Chaurasia, CEO of HealthyU Clinics, and Dr. Lauren Havard, CMO, in Phoenix, Arizona to discuss what they are looking for in an accountable care organization (ACO) partner, emphasizing hands-on experience in local markets. Finally, they met with Dr. Salil Trehan in Amarillo, Texas, whose practice has previously partnered with multiple ACO enablers, to gain insights into what sets great ACO partners apart.
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Jul 7, 2025 • 19min
191. Road Show Reflections with Farzad Mostashari, M.D. and Mat Kendall
Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Mat Kendall, president, join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh to share insights from their recent road trip to primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. They reflect how conversations about value-based care have evolved over the past 11 years — and what organizations are trying to learn when deciding whether to join an accountable care organization and who to partner with on that journey. Join us to learn why Aledade stands out in this ever-evolving landscape.
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Jun 9, 2025 • 27min
190. The Rising Cost of Skin Substitutes with Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol
Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol join us to explore the rising cost of skin substitutes in wound care, which Aledade data suggests is a tenfold increase in the last three years. Dr. Fife explains that rising costs are due to an increase in both cost of the product and increased usage and she addresses the real concerns such as the way many skin substitutes are exempt from FDA review, offer rebates or discounts to clinicians and how some Medicare payment models incentivize the use of more expensive treatments. Dr. Apostol also notes how wound care has evolved through the lens of primary care, including an increase in specialist utilization and mobile wound care teams.
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May 27, 2025 • 24min
189. Do ACOs Really Save Money? Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar Explain
Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar join us to discuss the long-term savings of accountable care organizations (ACOs) in the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP). Their recent study in JAMA found that ACOs generate increasing savings over time, with physician-led ACOs demonstrating more significant savings. Learn about their study’s methodology, policy implications for The Centers of Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and where Dr. Bond and Dr. Khullar will focus their research next.
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May 19, 2025 • 22min
188. Natalie Davis on Why You Shouldn’t Talk about Value-Based Care
Natalie Davis, CEO of United States of Care, joins us to talk about the challenges of discussing value-based care with patients and policymakers. Through extensive research with over 30,000 individuals, Davis shares that the term "value-based care" often evokes negative connotations of low-quality care. When presented with the benefits of value-based care without using the term itself, people were most interested in spending more time with their doctors and receiving personalized, quality care. Join us to learn more about effectively communicating with patients and policymakers about value-based care.
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