

Ecosystemic Futures
Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works
Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century.
Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.
Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.
Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
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Dec 12, 2023 • 34min
34: AI's Renaissance Moment: Defining What it Means to Be Human
Media outlets love to amplify AI hype with fear, yet humanity also has much to gain from thoughtful, intentional application of AI. What will it take for industry, society, and governments to shift to human-centric AI? In this episode we connect with technologist Phil D. Hall who started working with the first iterations of AI in the early '80s, and today focuses on highly contextualized healthcare AI systems. Guest: Phil D. Hall, CTO CareEnabler from SeraCares Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA

Dec 5, 2023 • 37min
33: AIming for Economic Antifragility
AIming for Economic Antifragility With economic resilience elusive - what role, if any, can regulation play in unlocking innovation? What is the ecosystemic impact of regulation? Join our co-hosts as they explore the role of AI in our economy with Professor Luke Froeb, former Chief Economist at the US Department of Justice and at the Federal Trade Commission. This episode packs heady and hard-hitting perspectives on a full spectrum of economic implications - the need for regulation in the AI ecosystem; surprising correlations between Generative AI and the Search Engine market; funding and development of AI models; the future of intellectual property rights within the context of large language models and generative AI; and the hype and potential promise of the current inflection point with Generative AI. Guest: Luke Froeb, Professor at Vanderbilt University’s Owen Graduate School of Management Co-Hosts: G. Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA

Nov 28, 2023 • 35min
32: AI Convergences: Humans & Machines, Hype & Reality
Transformational or transitional? Will AI elevate humanity, or exploit? This season of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast investigates the potential, practicalities, and perils of AI applications in society, industry, and policy. Join co-hosts Dyan Finkhousen, Mark Stephen Meadows, Ed Powell, and James Villarrubia as they frame a pragmatic exploration of the history of AI, and the potential futures it may unlock.

Sep 12, 2023 • 50min
31: Ecosystemics - The New Economic Engine for Organizational & Societal Resilience
This episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast delivers the capstone on what have been an extraordinary first two seasons. These two brilliant seasons explored the undeniable fact that ‘The Future is Ecosystemic and Interconnected’... Establishing a new way - an ecosystemic way - of understanding our dynamic world and how to thrive within it. These first 45 conversations delivered a bounty of universal truths and strategic surprises: from the role of trust and ethics in society; bio-inspired models; ‘Strategic Surprise’ and systemic thinking to help shirk conventional norms; and the critical importance of designing for systemic resilience. An exceptionally diverse, prismatic collection of perspectives devoted to defining new horizons for humanity, industry, and policy... each conversation reinforcing that the world is increasingly interconnected and ecosystemic - and that we have a unique, generational opportunity to optimize performance and elevate the human experience... through intentional, ecosystemic design. The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast is provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - connecting with the world’s brilliant minds with wicked opportunities to help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.

Sep 5, 2023 • 24min
30: Isaac Arthur Part 3: Resilience by Design in Space Ecosystems
Concluding this series on space, this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast focuses on the industrial and societal pathways for the space economy. The conversation explores the new, much more expansive, frame for what's possible as we consider the operationalization of space. In this new frontier - geographic borders no longer offer clear boundaries for frameworks like economic system governance and security infrastucture. The development of in situ resource utilization and other foundational capabilities will begin to pave the way for the accessibility, affordability and sustainability of this next horizon for humanity. Guest: Isaac Arthur, Futurist and host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures With an emphasis on space exploration and the future, our guest Isaac Arthur joins our hosts in this fascinating discussion, exploring objectives that may help to prepare us for new outcomes for humanity. Thinking beyond the scope of our planet, the conversation explores innovative practices and the advancement of technologies, encouraging learning and opening our minds up to the realm of possibility.

Aug 29, 2023 • 25min
29: Isaac Arthur Part 2: Space Futures
As we race to space, are we orchestrating with a new paradigm for what's possible - with a mindset for abundance or scarcity? With a bias for collaboration, competition, or conflict? The space economy offers a unique, generational opportunity to design an incredible array of exploration and development for the betterment of society and industry. The choices we make here will define the next chapter for the future of humanity. In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, we connect again with Isaac Arthur, President, National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular YouTube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’, to continue our conversation about the rapidly evolving frontiers in space. With a fascinating perspective on innovation and planning, this episode will challenge your thinking about our place in the universe, and the futures it may unlock. Join us for another great discussion from the Ecosystemic Futures community. The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast is provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - connecting with the world’s brilliant minds with wicked opportunities to help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Guest: Isaac Arthur, President of the National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular YouTube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center and NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Aug 22, 2023 • 24min
28: Isaac Arthur Part 1: Space: The New Frontier
The world's brightest minds have been unlocking the mystery and magnificence of space for decades - and with new technologies now being developed at warp speed, space is now taking on a larger and more practical role in the future of industry, society, policy - and for humanity. Humanity has always looked to the skies for inspiration, adventure, and opportunity. Knowing what we do of what the universe has to offer, and knowing that we’ve only begun to understand the vast complexities of space - we look to the experts to help us understand what wicked problems space might help resolve. Isaac Arthur, host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’, sits down with our hosts in this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast to discuss life beyond our planet and the potential role that space exploration could play in safeguarding our future. Guest: Isaac Arthur, President, National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Aug 15, 2023 • 28min
27: Steve Hatfield Part 3: Ecosystemic Resilience at Work
To conclude this series on the future of work, this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast explores exciting options to design workforce ecosystems for resilient futures - enabling organizations and teams to maintain pace with rapidly advancing technologies, markets, and models. Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte joins us to discuss the practical decisions and actions that organizations can enact today to improve work, worker and workforce outcomes and experiences. Steve and our hosts discuss the profound opportunities that are possible in the convergence of technological advancement, human-centered ecosystemic design, and thoughtful change management. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Aug 15, 2023 • 26min
26: Steve Hatfield Part 2: Flexibility: The Key to Successful Work Futures?
Our first episode in this series on the future of work outlined challenges as we move to a more digitally-enabled human experience. Organizations and teams are grappling with new technologies, business models, dynamic market landscapes, reskilling requirements, and mindset shifts. In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast we connect with Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte to continue the fascinating discussion about the shifting landscape in work and workforce design - and in this episode we explore potential future state scenarios for work, worker and workforce design. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Aug 15, 2023 • 25min
25: Steve Hatfield Part 1: The Shock Behind the Shift - Workforce Ecosystems
The landscape for work, the workforce, and for workers - has been evolving for a very long time. The degree to which markets are interconnected and interdependent however, has never been greater. Emerging technologies unlock both promise and challenge for organizations and their teams. On this episode of Ecosystemic Futures, our hosts sit down with Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte to discuss this dynamic landscape, the challenges faced by leaders responsible for work and workforce design - and the importance of the skills-based strategies for workforce ecosystems. In this episode, Steve shares his perspective regarding the constraints within the current frameworks for work that could prevent us from leveraging the full promise of the Future of Work. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures


