
Ecosystemic Futures
Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century.
Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.
Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
Latest episodes

Jun 27, 2023 • 25min
9: Ross Dawson Part 3: Leveraging AI to Improve Systemic Thinking and Ecosystemic Resilience
Concluding this series on the incredible potential for AI to augment human cognition – this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast focuses on design frameworks that harness the complementary power of integrating humanity and AI. Futurist Ross Dawson and our hosts explore approaches to better systems thinking and design to improve ecosystemic resilience.

Jun 27, 2023 • 20min
8: Ross Dawson Part 2: AI Futures: Implications of AI in Strategic Decision Making
Our first episode in this series on AI and the potential to augment human cognition discussed its current use in decision making. In today’s episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, our hosts sit down with leading futurist Ross Dawson, to discuss the importance of understanding that this is a co-evolutionary system, with humanity at the core. In this session the discussion explores the potential unintended consequences in leaning too heavily on AI without using human intent as a guide, and the importance of designing systematic ways to maximize positive outcomes.

Jun 27, 2023 • 27min
7: Ross Dawson Part 1: Amplifying Cognition with AI
Ross Dawson, a seasoned futurist with a passion for artificial intelligence, shares his insights on the rapidly evolving role of AI in decision-making. He discusses how AI can amplify human cognition while stressing the importance of human intent in this synergy. The conversation also highlights the risks of over-reliance on AI and the need for ethical governance frameworks. Dawson emphasizes the potential for AI to enhance collaboration, advocating for adaptive strategies to navigate the complex landscape of human and machine decision-making.

Jun 20, 2023 • 25min
6: Anne Connelly Part 3: Blockchain Design for Ecosystemic Resilience
To conclude this series on Blockchain & The Next Generation of Ecosystem Design - today’s episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast focuses on the future. Joining us for this discussion is Anne Connelly, a leader in the blockchain arena, who walks us through private and public sector roles, and the importance of ecosystemic orchestration in the digital era. In today’s episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast, our hosts sit down with Anne Connelly, a leader in international development, blockchain and cryptocurrencies, to discuss the key problems and opportunities that are instigating the exploration of blockchain-based capabilities, and how could blockchain enable a better path forward for humanity. Guest: Anne Connelly, Instructor, University of Oxford Impact Finance Innovations Programme at Saïd Business School, Faculty, Boston University Blockchain-based Business Models for Social Impact Co-hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners on Twitter at @marcoannunziata James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Shoshin Works | NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration | White House Presidential Innovation Fellows

Jun 20, 2023 • 22min
5: Anne Connelly Part 2: Blockchain Futures
Our first episode in this series on Blockchain & The Next Generation of Ecosystem Design - we discussed what blockchain is, how it works, and the landscape of problems and opportunities that can be addressed with this new capability. In today’s episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, our hosts sit down with Anne Connelly, a leader in the blockchain space - to explore the vast array of potential future scenarios for society, industry and policy that could be enabled with blockchain technology. Blockchain gets a lot of attention these days, with financial technology and banking utilizing it as more data is shared worldwide and security is paramount. But what is blockchain and its popular network bitcoin? How does it work? In today’s episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast, our hosts sit down with Anne Connelly, a leader in international development, blockchain and cryptocurrencies, to discuss the key problems and opportunities that are instigating the exploration of blockchain-based capabilities, and how could blockchain enable a better path forward for humanity. Guest: Anne Connelly, Instructor, University of Oxford Impact Finance Innovations Programme at Saïd Business School, Faculty, Boston University Blockchain-based Business Models for Social Impact Co-hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners on Twitter at @marcoannunziata James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Shoshin Works | NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration | White House Presidential Innovation Fellows

Jun 20, 2023 • 20min
4: Anne Connelly Part 1: Blockchain & The Next Generation of Ecosystem Design
Blockchain gets a lot of attention these days, with financial technology and banking utilizing it as more data is shared worldwide and security is paramount. But what is blockchain and its popular network bitcoin? How does it work? In today’s episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast, our hosts sit down with Anne Connelly, a leader in international development, blockchain and cryptocurrencies, to discuss the key problems and opportunities that are instigating the exploration of blockchain-based capabilities, and how could blockchain enable a better path forward for humanity. Guest: Anne Connelly, Instructor, University of Oxford Impact Finance Innovations Programme at Saïd Business School, Faculty, Boston University Blockchain-based Business Models for Social Impact Co-hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners on Twitter at @marcoannunziata James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Shoshin Works | NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration | White House Presidential Innovation Fellows

Jun 13, 2023 • 22min
3: Geraldine Wessing Part 3: Prioritizing Scenarios for Ecosystemic Resilience
To close out this series on Shell’s Energy Security Scenarios, today’s episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast brought to you by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project focuses on understanding how Shell’s process and approach can be translated very quickly into other events. Geraldine Wessing, chief political analyst at Shell, guides our hosts through lessons learned from the scenario planning process, and what principles can be extracted to apply as we design for ecosystem wellness. Guest: Geraldine Wessing, Chief Political Analyst and Scenario Planner at Shell Co-host: James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures series host

Jun 13, 2023 • 24min
2: Geraldine Wessing Part 2: The Different Options Scenarios Teach Us
Our first episode in this series on Shell’s Energy Security Scenarios discussed the history and impact these models have had. In today’s episode of Ecosystemic Futures episode brought to you by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, our hosts sit down with Geraldine Wessing, chief political analyst at Shell to discuss how different countries may respond to the scenarios, given varying resources and priorities affecting how they navigate this critical time. What do the scenarios teach us, and how do those lessons differ? Guest: Geraldine Wessing, Chief Political Analyst and Scenario Planner at Shell Co-host: James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures series host

Jun 13, 2023 • 24min
1: Geraldine Wessing Part 1: Shell & The Energy Security Scenarios
Shell publishes energy security scenarios as a way to understand potential evolutions of the world in the future. Informed by data, constructed using models and containing insights from leading experts in the relevant fields, Shell hopes that by developing these models, it will inspire readers to evaluate choices, explore assumptions and consider options for significant change. In today’s episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, brought to you by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, our hosts sit down with Geraldine Wessing, chief political analyst at Shell, to discuss the history of Shell’s scenarios, the impact they have had on future planning, along with the importance of risk management. Guest: Geraldine Wessing, Chief Political Analyst and Scenario Planner at Shell Co-host: James Villarubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures series host

Jun 6, 2023 • 41min
15: Wherever We Go, We Need to Eat
In the AgriTech and Food sectors, “the most significant unlocks haven’t been achieved with the tech innovation... they’ve been with the business model innovation”. In this Ecosystemic Futures episode brought to you by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, our hosts sit down with Melissa Clark-Reynolds - futurist with a focus on food, agriculture, and technology - to discuss the wicked opportunities ahead for our most precious resources. A truly fascinating take on designing for ecosystemic resilience, this episode showcases the brilliant complexities in the expanding ecosystem for food, agriculture, energy, and technology. Guest: Melissa Clark-Reynolds, Futurist, Strategist, Professional Director Co-hosts: Jon Rask, Life Sciences Generalist for Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures series host Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode Atkins Ranch https://www.atkinsranch.com/ this is the company I am on the Board of Directors, on. You can buy our lamb at Wholefoods. Our skins are in these Regenerative Ugg boots - https://www.ugg.com/classic-regenerate/ Force of Nature Regenerative Meat https://forceofnature.com/ Monarch Electric Tractor https://www.monarchtractor.com/ Plenty Vertical Farms https://www.plenty.ag/ Helaina Precision Fermented Breast Milk Lactoferrin https://www.myhelaina.com/ Solar Foods https://solarfoods.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/soleinprotein/?hl=en Air Protein https://www.airprotein.com/ Singaporean Food Policy - https://www.ourfoodfuture.gov.sg/30by30/ Melissa writes a free newsletter sponsored by NZ Government Callaghan Innovation onSignals from the Future of AgriFoodTech - sign up and read archived issues here https://content.callaghaninnovation.govt.nz/global-signals-about