

Ecosystemic Futures
Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works
Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century.
Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.
Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.
Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
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May 14, 2024 • 48min
47: Ecosystemic Patterns and Progress: Meta-Reflections Across the Ecosystemic Futures Series
In today’s episode, we explore the ecosystemic patterns across industry, society, and policy as Dyan Finkhousen and Marco Annunziata reflect on the intersection of diverse perspectives that have emerged from Seasons 1-4 of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast. Dyan and Marco delve into an insightful discussion about the interplay between advanced and general purpose technologies, trust, and governance - unpacking the opportunities and obstacles posed by technological advancements. They chase this back to the evolving work and organizational adaptation landscape, with implications for innovation, resilience, and lifelong learning. Tune in for an enlightening exploration of the dynamic forces shaping our world today and setting the stage for our future. Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners

Apr 30, 2024 • 43min
46: Ecosystem Design Impact: Accelerating Industry through Collaboration
In this episode, we explore the pivotal role of ecosystemic models across industries, underscoring the importance of inclusive design for resilient futures. Our guest, Krista Pawley, a luminary in impact-driven initiatives, articulates the importance of transparency, community engagement, and contextual awareness in shaping decisions. Through her insights, we navigate the power of collaboration and diverse perspectives in forging impactful solutions. Pawley talks about the importance of trust in the digital realm and in human interactions - and articulates a clear pathway of the practical steps organizations, leaders, and youth can take in order to achieve a culture of trust. In this episode we also unpack the importance of inclusivity, pushing quickly past the vanity metrics to the meaningful value drivers of an inclusive approach to systems design. Guest: Krista Pawley, Founder of Imperative Impact, co-founder of Wavemakers, co-chair of EXCITE & one of the co-founders of SingularityU Canada Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, PhD, Futurist, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Apr 23, 2024 • 42min
45: Ecosystemic Design: Grappling With The Hidden Costs of Plastic
Embark on a journey through the complexities of our global plastic crisis with Impact Entrepreneur, Mimi Wu. She reveals a stark truth: recycling alone is not the solution. We delve into the intricate web of environmental, social, and economic factors driving this issue, and discuss the urgent actions needed to tackle the plastic problem at its core. Guest: Mimi Wu, Founder & CEO of Global Green Solutions and Co-founder & CEO of Myanmar Recycles Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Apr 9, 2024 • 40min
44: Preventing the Preventable Harms: The Data-Driven Fight Against Hospital Infections
This hard-hitting episode exposes the alarming crisis of healthcare-acquired infections in U.S. facilities - and the ecosystemic factors compounding the threat. Our guest, Sarah Beatty of Culturewell, pulls no punches in critiquing the reactive "firefighting" status quo within the healthcare system... a passionately well-intended system, yet increasingly missing the life-saving answers readily available in the meta-data. Beatty shares startling data and argues that the missing link is facility-specific environmental monitoring to precisely identify hygiene gaps and deploy cleaning resources—and data-driven solutions. Join this vital discussion shaping the pathway from a reactive to proactive, data-driven model for infection prevention - one resilient to the intensifying challenges across interconnected environments straining healthcare systems. Beatty makes a powerful case for waging and winning this winnable war. Guest: Sarah Beatty, Founder & CEO, Culturewell Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Apr 2, 2024 • 43min
43: From Soil to Sustenance: Regenerative Agriculture's Ecosystem Impact
Dive into the power of regenerative agriculture to revitalize our food ecosystems. This episode explores the ways regenerative farming methods can enhance soil health and unlock more nutrient-dense foods - nourishing people and planet. Guest Tina Owens, a leader at the intersection of agriculture, tech and wellness, illuminates the pivotal role emerging technologies play in optimizing and scaling regenerative practices. We discuss the ways AI, molecular mapping, and lifecycle assessments are reshaping food production into ecosystem-reviving force. Don't miss this compelling vision for an ecosystemic future of sustainable nourishment. Guest: Tina Owens, Managing Director @ Nutrient Density Alliance, Strategic Advisor @ Regenerative Food Systems Investment, Non-Profit Board Member of Non-GMO Project and Mad Agriculture & Farmer Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Mar 26, 2024 • 33min
42: Launching the Lunar Ecosystem
The US Government’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is actively working to establish the framework for a commercial economy on the moon - convening an ecosystemic collaboration to make it happen by 2035. DARPA's program manager for this project, called Luna10, Michael Nayak, call sign Orbit, joins the podcast to discuss the approach of leveraging what we know from Earth economies and commercial industries in order to create a unified, self-sustaining lunar economy. To activate the ecosystem for the lunar economy - Orbit and team are convening 12 commerical entities and a host of value chain enablers to build the framework. Join us for more fascinating discussions regarding the ways that ecosystems are shaping new economic engines. Guest: Michael Nayak, call sign Orbit, Program Manager for DARPA program Luna10 and Logic Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Feb 20, 2024 • 43min
41: AI's Critical Role in Intergenerational Human Flourishing
The intergenerational transmission of values, norms, and aspirations has always shaped expectations for transcendent belonging. What does it mean to live a good life, to be successful? The integrated ecosystem that supports human flourishing encompasses all aspects of society, industry, and policy. With generative AI anticipated to impact society more than any other technological advancement in recent decades - we now face the first generation, specifically Gen Alpha, that will age entirely with the benefits and opportunities of this advanced technology. In this episode, Mica Le John - entrepreneur, educator, and writer - joins us to tug at the core threads that bind all people regardless of demographic and explore ways that intergenerational collaboration with advanced technologies can lead to solutions for wicked problems and a more resilient future for humanity. Guest: Mica Le John, Entrepreneur, Educator & Writer Co-Hosts: Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Feb 13, 2024 • 40min
40: How secure is your AI/ML? And how can you be certain?
We're often unaware of security vulnerabilities until there's a breach. In today's rush to leverage AI, organizations often overestimate security and underestimate risk, while teams expose unique AI threats to otherwise reasonably safe businesses. Organizations are also changing the way they use AI - shifting from owning it to renting it. This delivers faster results but less control over important data and access, introducing risks that organizations may not yet fully recognize. Protect AI leaders join us to explain the differences between "safe," "secure," and "governed" in AI and how to safely create an AI-empowered future. Guests: Daryan "D" Dehghanpisheh, Co-Founder, Protect AI Marcello Salvati, Senior Engineer & Researcher, Protect AI Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Feb 6, 2024 • 44min
39: AI & Governance: Redefining Infrastructure for a Tech-Enabled Society
Civilization came together when people agreed on a shared "code" about building communities and cities. Today, some believe there is a need for a new layer of accountable, transparent, and contestable code - to support our digitally-enabled society. Join us for a conversation with Ben Cerveny, President and Founder of the Foundation for Public Code, an organization helping public institutions develop and maintain public code in a tech-empowered society. While it may seem that tech giants have the edge on developing systems at scale - the public sector can assume a leading role in the development of public code, and inform beneficial future pathways for society. Barcelona, Estonia, Taiwan, and Ukraine have all created public code-based efforts - in this episode we delve into these innovative efforts that are paving the way with ecosystemic methodologies, protocols, and community engagement programs. Guest: Ben Cerveny, President & Chairman of the Board for Foundation for Public Code Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Jan 30, 2024 • 38min
38: AI and Decentralized Systems of Trust
How do you solve the problem of trust? Confidence is a prerequisite for large-scale adoption. With the deluge of speculation about Generative AI, organizations everywhere are establishing regulations and certifications to solve for fidelity, trust, and assurance. We're also seeing substantial debate regarding the viability of such efforts at this stage in the adoption of AI-empowered capabilities. Guest Emre Kazim is the co-Founder and co-CEO of Holistic AI, a hot startup empowering organizations to adopt and scale AI with confidence - which at its core, is solving the problem of trust. Emre shares an overview of the current ecosystems within and across the AI landscape - policy, industry, and society... federal, state, and local levels of activity. The path to AI governance is heating up and challenges us to answer the difficult questions - who will be the ultimate arbiter of trust and what are those entities' self-interests; what trade-offs are made and tolerated within AI-enabled systems of trust; what gaps exist between AI-powered capabilities, regulations, and policy... As you might suspect, the proximity of policy-making to the development of the capabilities they govern is key. Controlling the harm depends upon understanding the specific use case, the context of use, and the underlying layers of operability and interoperability - enabling a more precise assessment of the corresponding risk. Steady experimentation in practical, tangible use cases are the path forward enabling the real shift possible with AI. At the core - trust comes from confidence, and confidence comes from using these systems over time. Good governance will come from the same ecosystem that innovated these capabilities. Guest: Emre Kazim, Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Holistic AI Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA G. Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works