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Glenn Loury
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Feb 2, 2024 • 58min

John McWhorter – Is DEI on Its Way Out?

PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 John: Claudine Gay needed to resign, but her plagiarism wasn’t a mortal sin 6:50 Has DEI taken a hit after the Gay controversy? 13:50 When “DEI” really means “racial preferences” 22:12 The case of Neri Oxman 23:52 John: Bill Ackman looks “absurd” 26:47 Three cheers for John’s dinosaurs 28:22 Is Glenn really a “black conservative”? 31:11 The three dimensions of black conservatism 37:50 Black elites and immigration 42:35 Ibram X. Kendi undeterred 44:48 Roland Fryer is still standing 46:48 Is Amy Wax getting railroaded by Penn?Recorded January 27, 2024Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “We Need a New Word for ‘Plagiarism’”Elon Musk’s DEI airline post on XNeri Oxman’s CVAdolph Reed’s essay, “‘What Are the Drums Saying, Booker?’: The Curious Role of the Black Public Intellectual” (originally published in the Village Voice, April 11, 1995)Wilfred Reilly’s comparative IQ post on XRecording of Amy Wax’s FIRE webinarGlenn’s December 2021 episode with Amy WaxGlenn’s August 2022 episode with Amy WaxCharles Murray’s book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Race, Gender, and ClassGlenn’s conversation with Charles Murray This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 26, 2024 • 1h 8min

David Kaiser – States of the Union

Preorder Glenn's memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The many, many books of David Kaiser3:01 David: Claudine Gay is a symptom, not a cause, of what’s wrong at Harvard6:09 Western Civilization and elitism at Harvard10:03 Meritorious elitism and luxury elitism12:35 Intellectuals in the wild14:28 How James Bryant Conant built the modern Harvard …17:33 … and how it was broken18:52 Glenn’s previous conversation with Omer Bartov24:12 Why David thinks the Gaza War falls short of genocide but maybe not ethnic cleansing25:51 What Claudine Gay could (and maybe should) have said at her congressional hearing27:51 Why David thinks originalists will have a problem rejecting attempts to remove Trump from electoral ballots32:38 David: Mitch McConnell should have impeached Trump when he had the chance36:07 David’s new book, States of the Union41:03 Have state of the union addresses always been as boring as they are now?44:55 Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, and their legacies57:37 Why Obama didn’t propose a New New Deal after the 2008 financial crisis1:01:01 Biden’s silenceRecorded January 10, 2024Links and ReadingsDavid’s book, Economic Diplomacy and the Origin of the Second World War: Germany, Britain, France, and Eastern Europe, 1930-1939David’s book, Politics and War: European Conflict from Philip II to HitlerDavid’s book, American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of the Vietnam WarDavid’s book, The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. KennedyDavid’s book, Baseball Greatness: Top Players and Teams According to Wins Above Average, 1901-2017David’s book, NFL 1965: The Most Exciting SeasonDavid’s book, A Life in HistoryDavid’s book, States of the Union: A History of the United States through Presidential Addresses, 1789-2023Glenn’s previous conversation with DavidFareed Zakaria on elite universitiesGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovDavid’s blog, History UnfoldingDavid’s blog post about the Fourteenth AmendmentHoward Zinn’s book, A People’s History of the United StatesJohn F. Kennedy’s June 11, 1963 address on segregation This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 19, 2024 • 1h 9min

Ilya Shapiro, Robert George & Randall Kennedy – Clarence Thomas: Black American Icon

Preorder Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative wherever you buy your books.If you missed Wednesday’s City Journal and Manhattan Institute-hosted livestream, I’ve got you covered. Today I’m releasing the recording of that livestream as a special bonus episode. This event marked the publication of my City Journal essay “Clarence Thomas and Me,” and I had a stellar line-up alongside me to discuss the essay and the work of Clarence Thomas: Ilya Shapiro of the Manhattan Institute, Robert George of Princeton, and Randall Kennedy of Harvard Law School. 0:00 Introductions2:58 Why Glenn wrote “Clarence Thomas and Me”5:27 Randall: “Justice Thomas trades on his blackness”10:58 Glenn: Clarence Thomas has not “betrayed black people”12:30 Thomas’s engagement with natural law jurisprudence19:29 How would Thomas have come down on Brown v. Board of Education?20:55 The loyalty trap24:20 Randall: Thomas’s originalism may also commit him to sanctioning segregation28:24 Robbie: There are originalist interpretations that support Brown v. Board of Education34:07 Thomas’s race cases36:03 Glenn: Thomas can act as both a principled jurist and as an advocate for the rights of African Americans40:56 Randall: In 100 years, people will regard Shelby County v. Holder as one of the worst decisions in the Court’s history44:36 Maintaining integrity under pressure51:22 What are the differences between Thomas’s, Scalia’s, and Alito’s originalisms?55:30 Will Thomas have broader popularity in the future?1:01:10 Is racial solidarity inconsistent with judicial impartiality?1:03:30 Closing remarksRecorded January 17, 2024Links and ReadingsGlenn’s City Journal essay, “Clarence Thomas and Me”Glenn’s book, One by One from the Inside Out : Essays and Reviews on Race and Responsibility in AmericaMichael McConnell’s article, “The Originalist Case for Brown v. Board of Education”Randy Barnett and Evan Bernick’s book, The Original Meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment: Its Letter and SpiritLon Fuller’s book, The Morality of LawThe documentary on Clarence Thomas, Created Equal This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 15, 2024 • 43min

John McWhorter – Claudine Gay, MLK, and GLENN'S NEW BOOK

0:00 Preorder Glenn’s forthcoming memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative2:17 Why Glenn wrote a memoir (and why you should order it now)8:59 A ringing endorsement from John10:00 What does Martin Luther King Jr. Day mean in 2024?15:28 Preserving King’s belief in “the content of our character”16:20 What would King have thought of Claudine Gay?20:20 King’s radicalism25:54 John: Being against DEI does not make you a racist28:10 The Tabia Lee affair at D’Anza Community College29:58 How Claudine Gay should have reacted to the plagiarism scandal32:47 Glenn: “The DEI movement is hoist on its own petard”35:57 How DEI’s dominance has improved John’s home media set-up41:41 John’s upcoming cabaret showLinks and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “Claudine Gay Was Not Driven Out Because She Is Black”Glenn’s conversation with Tabia Lee“All’s Fair in Love and War” from Gold Diggers of 1937 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 12, 2024 • 1h 10min

Omer Bartov – Israel's Hard Right Turn

0:00 The long road leading to the Gaza War9:14 Don’t Palestinians have some responsibility for the current state of affairs?9:48 The precedent of the 1973 Yom Kippur War11:26 Omer: Israel only negotiates under pressure13:31 Netanyahu and the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin15:27 The US’s military support for Israel16:32 The origins of Hamas20:20 Omer: Netanyahu’s coalition is “a mirror image of Hamas”24:45 The threat to democracy in Israel26:27 Omer: Netanyahu is driving the country to the right in order to avoid a corruption trial30:07 How “Jewish supremacists” have gained control of Israel’s government34:01 Why Omer’s Zionism does not commit him to defending Israel’s actions36:46 The risk of genocide in Gaza40:05 The IDF’s procedure in the Gaza invasion43:09 What will happen to the Gazan refugees?45:00 The international community’s role in finding a resolution to the Gaza War48:17 Is the IDF “the most moral army in the world”?54:39 The revenge motive57:07 Omer: The campaign in Gaza is a fiasco59:38 A US-led plan for “the day after”1:04:37 Is peace in Israel a pollyannaish pipe dream?Recorded January 2, 2023Links and ReadingsBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel-Palestine ConflictOmer’s New Statesman piece, “Both Netanyahu and Hamas see this crisis as an opportunity”Hamas’s 1988 charterOmer’s NYT op-ed, “What I Believe as a Historian of Genocide” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 5, 2024 • 1h 8min

John McWhorter – The Best of Glenn and John 2023

I had planned to release the first Glenn and John episode of 2024 on New Year’s Day. Unfortunately, life had other plans, and John and I could not record as scheduled. So instead, my staff put together this collection of some of our favorite clips from 2023. John and I covered a lot of ground last year. Here you’ll see us addressing African American performance on standardized tests, the Supreme Court’s affirmative action decision, the riots of 2020, the Gaza War, and other big topics on the show.0:00 A New Year's message from Glenn2:36 How do we know that African Americans are just as smart as everyone else?11:15 Glenn goes in on the 2020 riots16:34 John: I love linguistics, but linguistics no longer loves me25:37 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?34:58 When the smoke clears in Gaza45:34 John: “We’ve been lied to” about George Floyd’s death54:32 Glenn and John revisit their first conversation This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Dec 29, 2023 • 1h 9min

Philip Howard – Getting Unions Out of Government

0:00 Philip’s early work on post-nuclear war recovery2:26 Philip’s skepticism toward the role of lawyers in the US4:34 What’s wrong with the EPA, OSHA, and the EEOC?6:59 How to ensure worker safety without “4,000 rules”8:07 Why the US spends so much on healthcare11:32 Philip: We’ve degenerated into a culture of distrust14:58 The origins of American distrust18:42 Re-instilling trust21:38 The problems of national security and public health26:57 Are public employee unions constitutional?39:35 Market constraints don’t hold for government employees34:55 Do public sector workers need protection from exploitation?39:22 Philip: “Public service is repellant to good candidates”40:58 A short history of the civil service46:49 Is Philip inveighing against the Democratic Party and the labor movement at large?53:12 Philip: Police unions prevent accountability, too56:08 The necessity of a constitutional solution to public unions1:00:58 Philip: The political organizing of public unions harms the public1:04:46 Would the current Supreme Court be receptive to Philip’s case?Recorded October 27, 2023Links and ReadingsPhilip’s book, The Death of Common Sense: How Law Is Suffocating AmericaPhilip’s book, Life Without Lawyers: Restoring Responsibility in AmericaPhilip’s latest book, Not Accountable: Rethinking the Constitutionality of Public Employee UnionsEdward Banfield’s book, The Moral Basis of a Backward SocietyRobert Putnam’s book, Making Democracy Work: Civic Traditions in Modern ItalyPhilip’s forthcoming book, Everyday Freedom: Designing the Framework for a Flourishing Society This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Dec 22, 2023 • 1h 3min

John McWhorter, Liz Collin & JC Chaix – Filmmakers Reveal the Truth about George Floyd

0:00 How Liz and JC came to collaborate on their doc, The Fall of Minneapolis4:18 JC: No, the footage in the doc is not AI-manipulated6:08 How much of the body cam footage is previously unseen?8:18 Who lied about George Floyd, what did they lie about, and why?13:30 The relevance of Floyd’s behavior during the incident17:30 JC: Minneapolis Chief of Police Arradondo perjured himself22:30 Minnesota DA Keith Ellison’s email to Glenn24:11 The expert testimony from Dr. Martin Tobin on Floyd’s cause of death26:12 Adjudicating disputes about the cause of death34:36 Were racial justice tropes part of the Floyd incident?38:20 Why Liz and JC think Derek Chauvin didn’t get a fair trial41:28 Why JC didn’t include the entire viral video of Floyd in the doc44:30 What Chauvin told JC about the incident47:40 Humanizing the Minnesota police50:41 The aftermath of the Minneapolis riots55:32 The lawsuits that followed the Floyd family’s settlement56:34 The drugs that “complicated” Floyd’s restraintRecorded December 16, 2023.Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s episode about The Fall of MinneapolisLiz and JC’s documentary, The Fall of MinneapolisLiz’s book, They're Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Dec 15, 2023 • 53min

Tabia Lee – An Ex-DEI Director Speaks Out

0:00 Tabia’s early career as a teacher5:40 Tabia’s “rough ride” as a DEI director17:06 The antisemitism problem at De Anza25:25 The inescapable BIPOC binary28:52 From disagreement to deplatforming35:30 Why Tabia found support among students but not faculty39:00 How attempts to silence Tabia backfired40:54 Tabia’s broad vision of diversity47:46 Learning from the medical professionals of GalileeRecorded November 27, 2023Links and ReadingsTabia’s New York Post piece, “I was a DEI director — DEI drives campus antisemitism”Tabia’s Compact piece, “A Black DEI Director Canceled by DEI”Foundation Against Intolerance and RacismDo No Harm MedicineCoalition for Empowered Education This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Dec 8, 2023 • 52min

John McWhorter – The Truth about George Floyd's Death

0:00 A new documentary about George Floyd’s death raises new questions5:42 John: “We’ve been lied to” about George Floyd’s death14:27 The price of a “poetic truth”20:09 Was the Derek Chauvin jury intimidated into delivering a guilty verdict?23:26 Glenn: George Floyd was no hero29:03 The burning of Minneapolis’s 3rd Precinct34:54 Is there any hope of changing the George Floyd narrative?41:48 Who will take responsibility for changing things in black America?Recorded December 2, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s May 2020 episode, “Cops and Race”Liz Collin and JC Chaix’s documentary, The Fall of MinneapolisEli and Shelby Steele’s documentary, What Killed Michael Brown?Barbershop, “OJ did it”Coleman Hughes’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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