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Securing the future of DevOps and AI: real talk with industry leaders.
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Aug 6, 2020 • 25min
Security Champions Deep Dive
Welcome to the first episode in a series where we reflect on the lessons given to us by our previous guests. This episode is a deep focus on security champions — developers with extra training who provide input from the security side of things. Our first perspective comes from episode 59 featuring Steve White, Field CISO of Pivotal, now a part of VMware. Steve shares his enthusiasm for security champion programs and speaks about their role in helping their teams make incremental security changes. After talking about why we should be moving security into the early development cycle, Steve gives advice on giving developers one security problem to focus on at a time. From Steve, we dive into episode 42 where we spoke to Kate Whalen from The Guardian. She highlights the value of organizing meetings for developers who are interested in security. These spaces, she explains, are for engineers to ask questions and come to an understanding that security is a shared responsibility. Next, we listen to Omer Levi Hevroni from episode 24, who was a maven for Asurion — their version of a security champion. He talks about the productivity challenges of being a security champion and needing to complete your tasks. Mirroring Kate’s points, Omer emphasizes the importance of having a community to share your experiences with and how conferences and online channels like Slack can serve this need. Our last perspective is provided by Yashvier Kosaraju from episode 66. Yashvier discusses having a security partner on a security team to complement having a security champion on the development team. We talk about the advantages of this system as it allows you to perform a security review on a project as it’s being created, ensuring that timelines aren’t affected. Our guest’s experiences are filled with insight and wisdom. Tune in for more on how you can develop your own security champion program.
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Jul 30, 2020 • 33min
Changing Culture With Nitzan Blouin
On today’s episode, Guy Podjarny, President and Co-Founder of Snyk talks to Nitzan Blouin. Nitzan’s background combines engineering and product management. She built six QA test departments from scratch while bulletproofing big data with mobile products. Nowadays, she’s leading Spotify’s product security team. In this episode, Nitzan digs into changing culture, something that she has managed a couple of times before in a variety of contexts. She shares a bit about her journey from quality assurance to security and how they are essentially two sides of the same coin. We get a step-by-step process from Nitzan, about how she sought to create a plan that would solve security as an engineering problem at Spotify. She also has some tips about interaction models, hiring a diverse team, and talking to your customers. Tune in today for more on changing culture, from Nitzan Blouin!
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Jul 23, 2020 • 40min
Transforming Comcast Using DevSecOps Practices With Larry Maccherone
Security teams often adopt an untrusting and policing approach to development, creating confrontational relationships that only increase risk. For many companies, this culture of gatekeeping prevents the adoption of DevSecOps practices. But now the data is out! Having used agile practices to integrate DevSecOps into Comcast’s development cycle, Larry Maccherone has shown that DevSpecOps significantly reduces risk. On today’s episode, our conversation with Larry focuses on his experience transforming Comcast’s development team. We open by talking about Larry’s career and how he’s learned the importance of visualizing data in order to explain his research. Larry shares the pushback that he experienced from security teams when implementing DevOps practices and how getting this approach to work involved a gradual onboarding process. We discuss the challenges that arise when you follow some DevOps practices but not others before diving into Larry’s research. Despite having results that prove the value of DevSecOps, Larry talks about the unique problem that, “You’re never a prophet in your own town,” meaning that people often fail to recognize innovation when it is developed in-house. Near the end of the episode, Larry talks about cloud tech before giving advice on taking your security to the next level. An episode filled with insights, tune in to it and learn how you can transform your dev team.
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Jul 16, 2020 • 33min
Understanding What Cloud Security Means With Teri Radichel
Today, we talk about business, technology, and development as it relates to cloud security with Teri Radichel, CEO of 2nd Sight Lab and author of Cybersecurity for Executives in the Age of Cloud. Teri begins by explaining how she got into the world of cloud security after experiencing a breach in her prior web application development and hosting company. From there, we explore what cloud security is all about and Teri starts by defining cloud systems in contrast to physically rented servers. She mentions a concern in the form of the new distributions of responsibility between client and host, and then sketches out some of the novel security challenges posed by the unique architecture of cloud-based apps. We get into a few of the main places that breaches occur and then discuss how necessary – and possible – it is for people from executives to developers to become more security savvy. This brings up the issue of the fine line between raising justified alarm bells and fear-mongering, and we hear why Teri believes talking about security is of utmost importance. Other big takeaways from today’s conversation are Teri’s thoughts on the way teams are distributed, and we touch on the need for developers and security people to understand each other's roles more, the importance of ‘builders’ and ‘auditors’, and how to make the job of security teams easier, thus put them to best use! Make sure you tune in for all this as well as Teri’s thoughts on how cloud systems can optimize security, and some valuable lessons from her about personal and professional growth!
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Jul 2, 2020 • 1h 11min
DevSecCon Panel
Today’s episode of The Secure Developer features some fantastic content from a panel at DevSecCon London. Clint Gibler, Research Director at the NCC Group is joined by Doug DePerry, Director of Defense at Datadog, Tash Norris, Head of Product Security at Moonpig, Jesse Endahl, CSO at Fleetsmith, and Zane Lackey, CSO at Signal Sciences. The discussion begins with a dive into building a good security culture within a company and ways to get other members of an organization interested in security. Some of the strategies explored include cross-departmental relationship building, incentivizing conversations with the security team through swag and food, and embedding security within development teams. We then turn our attention to metrics. There are often competing priorities between developers and security, which can cause tension. The panel shares some of the security metrics that have and have not worked for them, and we also hear different takes on the often-divisive bug count metric. Next up is a dive into working with limited personnel and financial resources, one of the most common constraints security teams face. We hear how the panel approaches prioritization, adding value to the organization as a whole, and the importance of making the security capabilities digestible to the developers. After this, the panel explores risk quantification and subsequent communication. While it's difficult to quantify risk precisely, there are some effective strategies such as risk forecasting. Along with this, techniques on communicating with executives in resonant ways to convey the severity of potential threats are also shared. Other topics covered include policy-driven vs technical-driven security and skilling up less technical teams, how to know when security is ‘done,’ and incentives for upholding security protocols!
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Jun 19, 2020 • 30min
Security Chaos Engineering - What Is It And Why Should You Care With Aaron Rinehart
Chaos engineering is a powerful practice where experiments are run to build confidence that a system operates as expected. While the practice shapes the way that large-scale systems are built, it is underutilized in the security space. Verica, a continuous verification company that uses chaos engineering to make systems more secure, is looking to remedy this shortfall, and its co-founder and CTO, Aaron Rinehart joins us today. Aaron has been expanding the possibilities of chaos engineering in its application to other safety-critical portions of the IT domain, notably cybersecurity. In this episode, we learn more about Aaron’s diverse background. Having worked as a developer before making his move into security, he understands systems intricately, giving him unique insights. We then dive into chaos engineering, the proactive approach it takes, and the intentional feedback loop it provides. Aaron believes that these experiments are great learning moments because there is not a high cognitive load that comes with unplanned system failures. After, we turn our attention to how chaos engineering ensures systems' stability is accelerated in a controlled and managed way. Along with this, we explore why it’s not necessary to wait for production to test different security controls, what security chaos engineering offers instant response teams, and some fascinating use cases. Be sure to tune in today!
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Jun 16, 2020 • 25min
Level Up Your Security Champions With Yashvier Kosaraju
For this episode, we are joined by Yashvier Kosaraju, who manages the product security team at the ever-inspiring Twilio! Yash is here to share a whole load of insights and learnings from his career, with a specific focus on the 'Security Champions' program at his current company and what management means to him coming from a consulting background. We hear from our guest about the unusual path he chose to his career and how an interest in cryptocurrency led him into the security sphere. Yash does a sterling job of unpacking the way the different security teams are laid out at Twilio, their relationships to each other and the developers, and where the lines are drawn. Our guest gives us some insight into the work that he and the team typically do and some examples of their projects and there is also time for some philosophical musings as we talk with Yash about the importance of developer empathy for anyone working in security as well as the high value he places on listening as a means to improvement. The 'champion' concept at Twilio is really inspiring and the conversation covers how this actually works within teams and departments and the incentives and rewards that are offered for better security practices. Listeners can expect to gain access to a high-level and integrated systems approach, something that could be helpful to anyone in the space!
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Jun 9, 2020 • 41min
DevSpecOps - Developing A Better Software Delivery Model With Alyssa Miller
On today’s episode, Guy Podjarny talks to Alyssa Miller, a security advocate who is here to talk about everything DevSpecOps. Alyssa begins by detailing her extensive experience from working in FinTech to becoming a penetration tester, security evangelist, team leader, and security consultant. After talking about her experience with app security, Alyssa shares her perspective of the tech world and the incredible changes that have emerged over the past two years, including the rise of cloud technology and the use of docker images. Then Guy and Alyssa talk about Snyk’s DevSecOps Hub — a tool that guides organizations in implementing DevSpecOps into their organizations. Along with theory on the topic, the hub is filled with practical advice as it relates to DevSpecOps culture, the ‘people components’ of a business, processes, and technology. The Hub also has a space for people to share how they’ve implemented and matured their DevSpecOps models. Throughout the conversation, Alyssa draws on her experience to provide insights on DevSpecOps, emphasizing the need for a model that integrates continual improvement, shared responsibility, and an aim for greater security.
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Jun 4, 2020 • 34min
Open Source Security And Technical Management With Ryan Ware
On today’s episode, Guy Podjarny talks to Ryan Ware, a Security Architect and director of the Intel Products Assurance and Security Tools team. He has been at Intel since 1999, and has focused on product security for almost his entire career. His current passion is ensuring that developers at Intel have the right security tools in their hands to be able to quickly and efficiently understand the security implications of the choices they make in their daily work. In this episode, Ryan and Guy discuss open source security and how Intel deals with vulnerabilities in open source projects, the collaboration between security and development teams at Intel, and how COVID-19 has affected Ryans job. Ryan shares his perspectives on balancing management and individual contributor roles, some tips for that transition, as well his final advice for teams looking to level up their security foo. Tune in today!
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May 28, 2020 • 35min
Container Security, Microservices, And Chaos Engineering With Kelly Shortridge
On today’s episode, Guy Podjarny talks to Kelly Shortridge about security, microservices, and chaos engineering. Kelly is currently VP of product strategy at Capsule8, following product roles at SecurityScorecard, BAE Systems Applied Intelligence, as well as co-founding IperLane, a security startup which was acquired. Kelly is also known for presenting at international technology conferences, on topics ranging from behavioral economics at Infosec to chaos security engineering. In this episode, Kelly explains exactly what product strategy and management means, and goes into the relationships and tensions between dev, ops, and security and how that has changed. We also discuss container security and how it is different from any other end point security systems, as well as the difference between container security and microservices. Kelly believes that we are overlooking a lot of the benefits of microservices, as well as the applications for chaos engineering in security. Tune in to find out what changes Kelly sees happening in the industry, and see what advice she has for teams looking to level up their security!
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