

WP-Tonic | WordPress | SaaS | Bootstrap SaaS | Startups
Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen
WP-Tonic is a podcast for WordPress professionals, Bootstrap SaaS startup entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to build a business online.
We cover a large number of areas with our main show. We interview creative WordPress and startup entrepreneurs, plus online experts who share insights to help you build your online business.
Jonathan Denwood and Kurt von Ahnen host and produce the WP-Tonic podcast, which is one of the longest-running WordPress podcasts. Each episode brings you valuable insights with one goal: to help you generate more income and impact through online businesses.
We cover a large number of areas with our main show. We interview creative WordPress and startup entrepreneurs, plus online experts who share insights to help you build your online business.
Jonathan Denwood and Kurt von Ahnen host and produce the WP-Tonic podcast, which is one of the longest-running WordPress podcasts. Each episode brings you valuable insights with one goal: to help you generate more income and impact through online businesses.
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Dec 11, 2025 • 52min
#988 - WP-Tonic Show:We Look At Our Most Powerful Interviews In 2025
We Look At Our Most Powerful Interviews In 2025
Our most powerful interviews in 2025 revealed: Game-changing conversations with visionaries you need to hear. Don't miss these stories.
In 2025, we dive deep into the most impactful interviews that shaped our understanding of key issues. This episode features extraordinary discussions with influential figures across sectors, highlighting their insights and lessons learned. Prepare to be inspired as we unpack thought-provoking moments and revelations.
#1 - Rob Walling
Rob Walling, Founder of Tinyseed, MicroConf & Podcast “The Startups For The Rest of Us.”
https://www.wp-tonic.com/987-wp-tonic-show-are-the-glory-days-of-saas-finished-in-a-world-of-ai/
#2 - Dustin W. Stout
Dustin W. Stout, Founder & CEO of Magai.co.
https://www.wp-tonic.com/985-wp-tonic-showfrom-the-longest-night-to-making-114238-in-15-days/
#3 - Matthew Renze
Matthew Renze, AI Researcher, Consultant, And Author
https://www.wp-tonic.com/971-wp-tonic-show-does-ai-mean-the-end-of-developers-or-is-it-just-a-new-powerful-development-tool/
#4 - Brad Englert
Brad Englert is the founder of Brad Englert Advisory and an author, advisor, and technologist. Brad worked for Accenture for 22 years, including 10 years as a partner. He then served the University of Texas at Austin for eight years, including seven years as the chief information officer (CIO).
https://www.wp-tonic.com/964-wp-tonic-show-startups-or-established-companies-why-culture-is-everything/
#5 - Brian Jackson
With Special Guest Brian Jackson, Joint Founder of Perfmatters
https://www.wp-tonic.com/946-wp-tonic-showtips-insights-on-how-to-improve-the-performance-of-your-clients-websites/
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Nov 25, 2025 • 58min
#987 - WP-Tonic Show: Are The Glory Days of SaaS Finished in a World of AI?
Are The Glory Days of SaaS Finished in a World of AI?
Rob Walling, Founder of Tinyseed, MicroConf & Podcast "The Startups For The Rest of Us"
Are the glory days of SaaS over as AI transforms software? Explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the SaaS landscape forever.
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Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen
Jonathan Denwood
https://www.wp-tonic.com
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In this thought-provoking show, we dive into the impact of artificial intelligence on the Software as a Service (SaaS) landscape. As AI technologies evolve, traditional SaaS models face unprecedented challenges and opportunities. We explore whether the golden age of SaaS is coming to an end or if it can adapt and thrive alongside AI innovations. Tune in to gain insights and perspectives on the future of both sectors.

Nov 19, 2025 • 53min
#986 - WP-Tonic Show:The Future of Cloud Hosting in a World of AI
#986 - WP-Tonic Show: The Future of Cloud Hosting in a World of AI
The Future of Cloud Hosting in a World of AI
The future of cloud hosting meets AI: Explore intelligent infrastructure, predictive scaling, and next-gen solutions transforming businesses.
With Special Guest Suhaib Zaheer, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Managed Hosting at DigitalOceans | Cloudways - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaheersuhaib/
#1 - Can you provide WP-Tonic's tribe with more information about your past involvement in the hosting industry?
#2 - What do you see as some of the major opportunities and threats connected to cloud hosting and AI over the next 18 months?
#3 - What, in general, are some of the major growth areas for cloud hosting in the next 18 months?
#4 - What are your general thoughts connected to where WordPress finds itself at the end of 2025?
#5 - In general, what are your personal thoughts connected to AI?
#6 - If you go back in time when you were 20, what key advice would you give yourself?
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Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 1min
#985- WP-Tonic Show:From The Longest Night To Making $114,238 in 15 Days
From The Longest Night To Making $114,238 in 15 Days
We have a great interview coming up with Dustin, founder and CEO of the popular AI tool Magai. He has an amazing personal story, and we will also discuss some of the major lessons he has learnt from growing Majai. Why don't you join us live with your questions for Dustin? https://f0k0.short.gy/ZuHUDQ
@DustinWStout @KurtvonAhnen @MananaNoMass #startups #Magai #ai #LTD
Special Guest Dustin W. Stout, Founder & CEO of Magai.co
https://magai.co/
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#1 - Dustin, can we go into your background before you started Magai, especially the 12 months leading up to the launch of Magai?
https://magai.co/making-100k-in-15-days/
#2 - You have spoken about your decision to offer an (LTD) life time deal around the launch of Majai. Can you provide some additional insights and thoughts related to LTDs?
#3 - What are a couple of the major lessons you have learnt connected to successfully launching and running Majai that you are happy to share with the WP-Tonic' tribe?
#4 - What are some over AI startups that are on your radar and you personally like that you can share with the audience?
#5 - In the AI world, there has been considerable discussion about Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). What are your own thoughts on this?
#6 - If you go back in time when you were 20, what key advice would you give yourself?

Nov 5, 2025 • 55min
984 - WP-Tonic This Month in WordPress & Tech Round Table Show For October, 2025
WordPress and Tech Stories of The Month. Get the insights you need now.
Discover the month's must-know WordPress and tech stories in our latest video! We explore key updates, fascinating innovations, and expert commentary that are vital for anyone involved in the digital realm. Our engaging discussion keeps you informed and inspired as you navigate your tech journey. Don’t wait—watch now to catch up on what matters most in WordPress and technology.
---------------------- Sponsors of The Show -------------------------------
Kintsa - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
WP-Rollover - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
LifterLMS - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
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This Month's Special Guest Panelist Chris Badgett CEO of LifterLMS
https://lifterlms.com/
#1 - Key Takeaways From Matt Mullenweg’s WordCamp Canada 2025 Town Hall
https://www.therepository.email/key-takeaways-from-matt-mullenwegs-wordcamp-canada-2025-town-hall
#2 - The ChatGPT Atlas browser still feels like Googling with extra steps
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/804931/openai-chatgpt-atlas-hands-on-google-search
#3 - WPManageNinja Launches FluentCart, Aiming to Bring Speed and Simplicity to Ecommerce for WordPress
https://www.therepository.email/wpmanageninja-launches-fluentcart-aiming-to-bring-speed-and-simplicity-to-ecommerce-for-wordpress
#4 - Inside Ring-1T: Ant engineers solve reinforcement learning bottlenecks at trillion scale
https://venturebeat.com/ai/inside-ring-1t-ant-engineers-solve-reinforcement-learning-bottlenecks-at
#5 - How a tiny bug spiraled into a massive outage that took down the internet
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/25/tech/aws-outage-cause
#6 - Just like humans, AI can get ‘brain rot’ from low-quality text and the effects appear to linger, pre-print study says
https://fortune.com/2025/10/22/ai-brain-rot-junk-social-media-viral-addicting-content-tech/

Oct 30, 2025 • 56min
983 - WP-Tonic Show - What Does It Take To Build A Successful Web Design Agency: At The End of 2025
Discover what it takes to build a successful web design agency with expert insights from Imran Siddiq of Web Squadron. Get proven strategies now.
In this insightful show, Imran Siddiq from Web Squadron shares the essential steps for establishing a thriving web design agency. From mastering client relationships to honing technical skills, Imran reveals the strategies that have propelled his business to success. Discover valuable tips and industry secrets to kickstart your own agency journey. Don’t miss this opportunity — watch the video now to learn from an expert.
Our Special Guest This Week is Imran Siddiq, Joint Founder of Web Squadron
Imran is a popular YouTube WordPress influencer and also jointly runs a successful web design agency, Web Squadron, based in Syston, Leicestershire.
https://websquadron.co.uk
https://learn.websquadron.co.uk
@websquadron
@ImranWebsites
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▬▬ LEARN FROM US ▬▬
► Our course is" Are You Looking To Build Your Membership Website Quickly And EASILY On WordPress?"
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▬▬ ABOUT THIS CHANNEL ▬▬
We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
//CONTACT:
For business inquiries ONLY, please use this email: support@wptonic.com
-----------------------------------------Hosts of The Show -----------------------------------
Hosts of The Show
Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandenwood/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
https://manananomas.com/
@MananaNoMas
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Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 9min
982 - WP-Tonic Show: AI & WordPress The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
Discover AI & WordPress pros and cons! From automated content creation to security risks - get the complete guide to using AI with WordPress.
Our Special Guest This Week Is Matt Medeiros of Gravity Forms & The WP Minute Podcast
In this week's show, we delve into the powerful intersection of AI and WordPress, uncovering its advantages and pitfalls. From enhancing content creation to potential automation challenges, we explore how AI can streamline your workflow while also presenting ethical dilemmas. Join us as we dissect the good, the bad, and the ugly aspects of integrating AI in your WordPress projects.
Our Special Guest This Week Is Matt Medeiros of Gravity Forms & The WP Minute Podcast
https://www.gravityforms.com
https://thewpminute.com
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Kintsa - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
WP-Rollover - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
LifterLMS - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
----------------------------------- Follow & Connect With Us -----------------------------------
▬▬ LEARN FROM US ▬▬
► Our course is" Are You Looking To Build Your Membership Website Quickly And EASILY On WordPress?"
https://www.wp-tonic.com/course/
▬▬ LET'S CONNECT ▬▬
► FaceBook Free Group "The Membership Machine Show" Group Page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/membershipmachine
► Podcast "The Membership Machine Show"
https://f0k0.short.gy/oF9q9f
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▬▬ SPECIAL DEALS ON THE TOOLS WE USE TO BUILD (ONLINE COURSES) ▬▬
https://www.wp-tonic.com/deals/
▬▬ ABOUT THIS CHANNEL ▬▬
We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
//CONTACT:
For business inquiries ONLY, please use this email: support@wptonic.com
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Oct 15, 2025 • 49min
981 - WP-Tonic Show: How To Build a Successful Plugin Business in 2025
How To Build a Successful Plugin Business in 2025 With Special Guest Devin Walker of RollBack Pro & Give WP
Learn how to build a successful plugin business in 2025 with proven strategies, monetization tips, and market insights. Start your profitable journey today.
In this video, we explore the key strategies for establishing a successful plugin business in 2025. From identifying niche markets to optimizing user experience, we cover the key elements that drive growth and profitability. Discover the latest trends in technology, marketing strategies, and customer engagement that can differentiate your plugin in a competitive landscape.
With Special Guest Devin Walker
https://devin.org/
https://wprollback.com/
#1 - Devin, can you provide the tribe with some more background information on how you got into web development, especially WordPress?
#2 - You are best known in the WordPress world as the joint founder of GiveWP and the founder of WP Rollback. Do you have any tips or insights that you wish you had known during your journey with these two projects?
#3 - What are a couple of key things that you feel people need to understand about the WordPress premium plugin marketplace?
#4 - What are a couple of things that excite you in the WordPress marketplace that you feel there is the possibility of real growth in the next 18 months?
#5— Are there any AI tools or services you have been using remotely or regularly that you would like to share with the WP-Tonic tribe?
#6—If you had your time machine (H. G. Wells) and could travel back to the beginning of your career, what advice would you give?
----------------Sponsors------------------
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WP-Rollover - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
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----------------------------------- Follow & Connect With Us -----------------------------------
▬▬ LEARN FROM US ▬▬
► Our course is" Are You Looking To Build Your Membership Website Quickly And EASILY On WordPress?"
https://www.wp-tonic.com/course/
▬▬ LET'S CONNECT ▬▬
► FaceBook Free Group "The Membership Machine Show" Group Page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/membershipmachine
► Podcast "The Membership Machine Show"
https://f0k0.short.gy/oF9q9f
► X (Twitter)
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▬▬ SPECIAL DEALS ON THE TOOLS WE USE TO BUILD (ONLINE COURSES) ▬▬
https://www.wp-tonic.com/deals/
▬▬ ABOUT THIS CHANNEL ▬▬
We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
//CONTACT:
For business inquiries ONLY, please use this email: support@wptonic.com

Oct 7, 2025 • 54min
980 - WP-Tonic Show: We Discuss The Challenges of Building a Real Online Community in 2025
We Discuss The Challenges of Building a Real Online Community in 2025
With Special Guest Casey Woo, The Founder & CEO of The Operators Guild
Casey Woo is a public market investor turned proven multi-stage, high-growth technology COO/CFO with over 20 years of experience at high-growth startups. I’ve seen a lot, aged a lot, and love it a lot… I also lead a community of over 1,200 of the world’s top operators (@Operators Guild) and invest (@FOG Ventures).
#1 - Casey, can you provide the tribe with some more detailed information on your background and what led you to start Casey Woo?
#2 - What have been some of the major challenges that you can share with us connected to building and developing an online community?
#3 - Casey, I had the opportunity to interview David Siegel, CEO of Meetup, and he shared his personal experiences connected to working at WeWork with Adam Neumann and his wife, Rebekah. I wonder if you could share a couple of stories with us that have stayed with you, connected to this period of your life?
#4 - I personally feel we facing one of the biggest technology bubbles in history, connected to AI and OpenAI, and its CEO, Sam Altman. What are your thoughts on this?
#5— Are there any AI tools or services you have been using remotely or regularly that you would like to share with the WP-Tonic tribe?
#6—If you had your time machine (H. G. Wells) and could travel back to the beginning of your career, what advice would you give?
----------------Sponsors------------------
Kintsa - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
WP Rollback Pro - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
LfiterLMS - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
----------------------------------- Follow & Connect With Us -----------------------------------
▬▬ LEARN FROM US ▬▬
► Our course is" Are You Looking To Build Your Membership Website Quickly And EASILY On WordPress?"
https://www.wp-tonic.com/course/
▬▬ LET'S CONNECT ▬▬
► FaceBook Free Group "The Membership Machine Show" Group Page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/membershipmachine
► Podcast "The Membership Machine Show"
https://f0k0.short.gy/oF9q9f
► X (Twitter)
https://x.com/wptonic_com
▬▬ SPECIAL DEALS ON THE TOOLS WE USE TO BUILD (ONLINE COURSES) ▬▬
https://www.wp-tonic.com/deals/
▬▬ ABOUT THIS CHANNEL ▬▬
We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
//CONTACT:
For business inquiries ONLY, please use this email: support@wptonic.com
-----------------------------------------Hosts of The Show -----------------------------------
Hosts of The Show
Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandenwood/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
https://manananomas.com/
@MananaNoMas

Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 8min
#979- WP-Tonic This Month in WordPress & Tech Round Table Show For September, 2025
WordPress and Tech Stories of The Month. Get the insights you need now.
Discover the month's must-know WordPress and tech stories in our latest video! We explore key updates, fascinating innovations, and expert commentary that are vital for anyone involved in the digital realm. Our engaging discussion keeps you informed and inspired as you navigate your tech journey. Don’t wait—watch now to catch up on what matters most in WordPress and technology.
---------------------- Sponsors of The Show -------------------------------
Kinta- https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
LfiterLMS - https://bit.ly/3VskGBT
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This Month's Special Guest Panelist Toby Cryns, Owner of The Might Mo Agency
#1 - WordPress Project Launches New Experimental Core Program Team
https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-project-launches-new-experimental-core-program-team
Nick Hamze’s ‘Cool Kids’ Post Kicks Off Fresh Debate on WordPress’s Image Problem
https://www.therepository.email/nick-hamzes-cool-kids-post-kicks-off-fresh-debate-on-wordpresss-image-problem
#2 - Google begins its battle for the ‘unofficial currency of the internet’
https://www.theverge.com/policy/783285/google-doj-ad-tech-remedies-trial
#3 - What Do AI Site Builders Mean for Freelancers?
https://thewpminute.com/what-do-ai-site-builders-mean-for-freelancers/
#4 - The Worldcoin Scam Just Got Way Worse (Is this everything we need to know about Sam Altman?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAaIRWjKAmw
#5 - Court Dismisses Antitrust and Extortion Claims in WP Engine v Automattic, Allows Other Counts to Proceed
https://www.therepository.email/court-dismisses-antitrust-and-extortion-claims-in-wp-engine-v-automattic-allows-other-counts-to-proceed
#6 - YouTuber’s Secret Shopper Project Reveals Gaps in Customer Support at Hosting Companies
https://www.therepository.email/youtubers-secret-shopper-project-reveals-gaps-in-customer-support-at-hosting-companies
This Month's Special Guest Panelist Toby Cryns, Owner of The Might Mo Agency - https://themightymo.com/
Our Regular Monthly Panel
Heather Wilde Renze
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherwilde/
@heathriel


