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WP-Tonic is a podcast for WordPress professionals, Bootstrap SaaS startup entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to build a business online.
We cover a large number of areas with our main show. We interview creative WordPress and startup entrepreneurs, plus online experts who share insights to help you build your online business.
Jonathan Denwood and Kurt von Ahnen host and produce the WP-Tonic podcast, which is one of the longest-running WordPress podcasts. Each episode brings you valuable insights with one goal: to help you generate more income and impact through online businesses.
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Jul 9, 2025 • 60min
968 - WP-Tonic Show: How AI Will Change How WordPress Developers Code in 2025
Discover how AI will revolutionize WordPress development in 2025. Get ahead of the curve with new coding techniques that blend human creativity and AI power
With Special Guest Brian Messenlehner, Joint Founder & CEO of Apppresser
https://apppresser.com/
In this insightful video, we explore the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on WordPress development by 2025. Discover how AI tools will revolutionize coding practices, streamline workflows, and enhance user experiences. We explore emerging technologies that promise to transform the way developers approach website creation and management. Join us as we uncover the future of coding in the WordPress ecosystem.
Brian Messenlehner: Father of 5, US Marine, Software Developer, Author & Speaker. Co-Founder @AppPresser @SchoolPresser
#1 - Brian, how did you get into the world of web development and especially WordPress coding?
#2 - Brian, how do you personally see AI affecting how WordPress developers work and code in the next 18 months?
#3 - Do you see AI making it easier for WordPress developers to develop apps for iOS and Android using no-code platforms in the next 18 months?
#4 - Do you see WordPress's market share dramatically falling in the next couple of years?
#5— Are there any AI tools or services you have been using remotely or regularly that you would like to share with the WP-Tonic tribe?
#6—If you had your time machine (H. G. Wells) and could travel back to the beginning of your career, what advice would you give?
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Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
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@MananaNoMas
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Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 3min
#967- WP-Tonic This Month in WordPress & Tech Round Table Show For June, 2025
This Month's Special Guest Panelist Devin Walker | SVP, CIO | StellarWP
WordPress and tech stories. Get the insights you need now.
Discover the month's must-know WordPress and tech stories in our latest video! We explore key updates, fascinating innovations, and expert commentary that are vital for anyone involved in the digital realm. Our engaging discussion keeps you informed and inspired as you navigate your tech journey. Don’t wait—watch now to catch up on what matters most in WordPress and technology.
#1 - Who’s Behind FAIR? Inside the Coalition Seeking to Redefine WordPress Software Distribution
https://www.therepository.email/whos-behind-fair-inside-the-coalition-seeking-to-redefine-wordpress-plugin-distribution
#2 - In a Zero-Click World, Traffic is a Terrible Goal
https://sparktoro.com/blog/in-a-zero-click-world-traffic-is-a-terrible-goal/
#3 - Can AI Help WordPress Freelancers Make More Money?
https://thewpminute.com/can-ai-help-wordpress-freelancers-make-more-money/
#4 - AI actors and deepfakes aren't coming to YouTube ads. They're already here.
https://mashable.com/article/youtube-ai-video-ads
#5 - Can WordPress Finally Fix Five for the Future? Contributors See Rare Chance for Reform
https://www.therepository.email/can-wordpress-finally-fix-five-for-the-future-contributors-see-rare-chance-for-reform
#6 - Inside the courthouse reshaping the future of the internet
https://www.theverge.com/policy/690440/e-barrett-prettyman-courthouse-dc-district-meta-google-antitrust-doge
This Month's Special Guest Panelist
Devin Walker | SVP, CIO | StellarWP
SVP, CIO | StellarWP
@innerwebs
https://devin.org/
Our Regular Monthly Panel
Heather Wilde Renze
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherwilde/
@heathriel
Marc Benzakein
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-benzakein/
@MarcBenzak
Spencer Forman
https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencerforman/
@SpencerForman
Kurt von Ahnen
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
@KurtvonAhnen
------------------------------------------------- The Panel -------------------------------------------------
This Month Special Guest Panelist
Devin Walker | SVP, CIO | StellarWP
Our Regular Monthly Panel
Heather Wilde Renze
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherwilde/
@heathriel
Marc Benzakein
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-benzakein/
@MarcBenzak
Spencer Forman
https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencerforman/
@SpencerForman
Kurt von Ahnen
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
@KurtvonAhnen
@MananaNoMas
Heather - heathriel@gmail.com
Chris - chris@lifterlms.com
Spence - help@wplaunchify.com
Marc - mbenzakein@gmail.com
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Jun 24, 2025 • 56min
966 WP-Tonic Show: How Does WordPress Rebuild Community Trust In 2025
966 WP-Tonic Show: How Does WordPress Rebuild Community Trust In 2025
How Does WordPress Rebuild Community Trust In 2025
WordPress Community
Discover actionable strategies WordPress uses to rebuild community trust after challenges. Explore transparency initiatives and user-focused improvements.
With Special Guest Marcus Burnette, The Founder of "The WP World"
In this insightful show, we delve into the strategies WordPress is implementing to rebuild community trust as we enter 2025. From enhancing security measures to promoting transparent communication, we explore the initiatives that aim to strengthen user confidence. Discover how these efforts are shaping a more reliable and inclusive platform for all. Don't miss out—watch the show to learn how WordPress is paving the way for a trustworthy future.
Marcus Burnette is a web designer and developer, amateur photographer, and podcast host. At Bluehost, he works as Senior Manager of Strategy and Customer Experience, helping to shape products and support that make life easier for WordPress agencies and freelancers. Marcus is deeply involved in the WordPress community through projects like The WP World, a hub for WordPress enthusiasts, and WP Agency Tracks, a podcast sharing stories from agency folks. Passionate about building great websites and supporting those who do, he’s always looking for ways to strengthen the WordPress ecosystem and help others thrive.
https://thewp.world/
https://sponsormewp.com/
@marcusdburnette
#1 - Marcus, can you provide more information on how you got into the world of web design and WordPress?
#2 - How would you personally describe where the WordPress community finds itself in the middle of 2025?
#3 - What do you think are the key things that need to be done connected to developing a growing and positive WordPress community?
#4 - Where does leadership play its role in developing a growing WordPress community?
#5— Are there any AI tools or services you have been using remotely or regularly that you would like to share with the WP-Tonic tribe?
#6—If you had your time machine (H. G. Wells) and could travel back to the beginning of your career, what advice would you give?
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-----------------------------------------Hosts of The Show -----------------------------------
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Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
https://manananomas.com/
@MananaNoMas
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Jun 17, 2025 • 54min
965 WP-Tonic Show:How Is AI Going To Affect the WordPress Plugin Ecosystem In 2025
How Is AI Going To Affect the WordPress Plugin Ecosystem In 2025
Discover how AI will transform the plugin ecosystem in 2025. Get ahead of the curve with our expert predictions and prepare your business for the coming changes.
In this insightful video, we explore the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on the plugin ecosystem by 2025. Delve into how AI-driven tools will revolutionize plugin development, enhance user experience, and streamline integration processes. We’ll discuss emerging trends, potential challenges, and opportunities that lie ahead for developers and users alike. Don’t miss out on this essential analysis—watch the video now to stay ahead of the curve.
With Special Guests John Overal
The Founder And Joint Host of The Plugins A to Z Podcast & WP Pro A to Z Host
https://www.johnoverall.com/
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We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
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-----------------------------------------Hosts of The Show -----------------------------------
Hosts of The Show
Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
https://manananomas.com/
@MananaNoMas
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Jun 12, 2025 • 55min
964 - WP-Tonic Show: Startups or Established Companies, Why Culture is Everything!
In this engaging discussion, Brad Englert, founder of Brad Englert Advisory and seasoned technologist, explores why culture is everything for businesses. He reveals how company culture directly influences success, whether in startups or established firms. Brad highlights the gap between a company’s public persona and internal culture, stressing the vital role of ethical leadership. He also addresses AI's impact on corporate culture, discussing the risks of job loss and the importance of communication. Personal anecdotes enhance lessons on managing expectations in professional settings.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 12min
#963- WP-Tonic This Month in WordPress & Tech Round Table Show For May, 2025
In this insightful discussion, guests include Matt Medeiros, a full-time employee at Gravity Forms and a WordPress commentator, Heather Wild Renzi, the Unicorn Whisperer and CTO at The Difference, and Spencer Forman from WP Launch Firing, focused on AI and marketing automation. They explore the impact of AI site builders on freelancers, dissect Google's free AI tool for website creation, and debate the advantages of WordPress over proprietary CMS platforms. The conversation also touches on the nuanced challenges WordPress faces in the enterprise sector and the future of personal AI assistants.

May 27, 2025 • 57min
962 WP-Tonic Show: How Will AI Affect WordPress Freelancers and Agencies In The Next 18 Months
How Will AI Affect WordPress Freelancers and Agencies In The Next 18 Months
Explore the impact of AI on WordPress freelancers and agencies over the next 18 months. Learn how to adapt and thrive in a changing landscape.
In this insightful video, we delve into the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on WordPress freelancers and agencies over the next 18 months. Discover how AI tools reshape workflows, enhance client interactions, and redefine project management. Whether you’re a seasoned developer or a newcomer, understanding these changes is crucial for staying competitive.
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May 21, 2025 • 55min
961 WP-Tonic Show:The Role of WordPress Professionals & Agencies Is Shifting In 2025
961 WP-Tonic Show:The Role of WordPress Professionals & Agencies Is Shifting In 2025
The Role of WordPress Professionals & Agencies Is Shifting In 2025
The role of WordPress professionals & agencies is shifting in 2025—learn the key trends shaping the future of web development.
In 2025, the landscape for WordPress professionals and agencies is evolving rapidly. This video delves into the emerging trends and challenges that are reshaping their roles, from the rise of AI-driven tools to the increasing demand for specialized services. Discover how these changes affect project management, client relationships, and overall business strategies. Don’t miss out on insights that could redefine your approach.
With Special Guest Kimberly Lipari CEO of Valet.io - https://valet.io/
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We discuss everything connected to building a successful membership/community website in 2024, from the right technology to using up-to-date digital marketing techniques.
//CONTACT:
For business inquiries ONLY, please use this email: support@wptonic.com
-----------------------------------------Hosts of The Show -----------------------------------
Hosts of The Show
Jonathan Denwood & Kurt von Ahnen of MananaNoMas
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandenwood/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtvonahnen/
https://manananomas.com/
@MananaNoMas
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May 14, 2025 • 55min
960 WP-Tonic Show: Is Online Marketing Dead In The Age of Google AI?
With Special Guest Mike Stott of Automattic, the founder of the pro plugin "Social Gallery" , the plugin and theme shop "Epic Plugins", and Zero BS CRM, which was sold to Automattic in 2019.
Is online marketing dead in the age of Google AI? Discover how to adapt and thrive in this new digital landscape today.
In this insightful show, we delve into the question: Is online marketing dead in the era of Google AI snippets? With the rise of AI-driven search results transforming how users engage with content, we explore the implications for marketers and businesses. Join us as we analyze trends, expert opinions, and strategies to adapt in this evolving landscape.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 17min
#959- WP-Tonic This Month in WordPress & Tech Round Table Show
WordPress and tech stories. Get the insights you need now.
Discover the month's must-know WordPress and tech stories in our latest video! We explore key updates, fascinating innovations, and expert commentary that are vital for anyone involved in the digital realm. Our engaging discussion keeps you informed and inspired as you navigate your tech journey. Don’t wait—watch now to catch up on what matters most in WordPress and technology.
With Special Guest Robert DeVore
#1 - WP-Townhall Selling Websites to Low-Budget Clients - Kevin Geary vs Robert DeVore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtjJdYH7OY
#2 - Google has illegal advertising monopoly, judge rules & Meta's Zuckerberg disputes US antitrust case in trial testimony
This is the second antitrust case Google has lost in a year, after it was ruled the company also had a monopoly on online search.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3674nl7g74o
CEO Mark Zuckerberg took the stand on Monday at a high-stakes trial in Washington over U.S. antitrust enforcers' claims that the company spent billions of dollars to acquire Instagram and WhatsApp to fend off Facebook competitors.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/facebook-owner-meta-faces-existential-threat-trial-over-instagram-whatsapp-2025-04-14/
#3 - The Boss Attempts to Unblock
https://x.com/photomatt/status/1914107987985080654
I tried to unblock all accounts today, but the X interface is broken. I'll figure out how to unblock everyone. I'm removing all my blocks; it may take a few days. Any block that remains is a bug, not a statement.
#4 - Why Does Everyone Hate Katy Perry So Much?.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/why-does-everyone-hate-katy-perry-after-blue-origin-space-flight/
Jen & Peter BURY 'Oprah's Friend' Gayle King For JUSTIFYING Blue Origin's Publicity Stunt Flight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SduJz7X03-k
https://nypost.com/2025/04/16/media/gayle-king-responds-to-backlash-over-all-female-blue-origin-flight/
King responded to the backlash in comments to Entertainment Tonight on Tuesday, where she compared the Blue Origin flight to the historic space flight taken by American astronaut Alan Shepard in 1961. “Have you been?” King scolded critics.5 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SduJz7X03-k
#5 - Why WordPress Maintenance Could Be Key for Your Freelance Business
https://thewpminute.com/why-wordpress-maintenance-could-be-key-for-your-freelance-business/
#6 - California cities are trying to figure out how fake voices mocking Musk and Zuckerberg were added to crosswalks
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-ai-voices-crosswalks-california-hack-2025-4