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Season 2: Episode 4 – Sadie Red Wing It took just a hundred years time to devastate thousands of years of knowledge and culture when colonizers stole North America from the indigenous peoples. To this day, much of the Western world ignores their Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK), which holds many solutions to our climate crisis. What if agribusinesses healed the soil, instead of depleting it? What if designers knew how to make their own inks from plants, papers from grasses, and other objects without damaging the planet? What if what we made with Gaia’s gifts regenerated her like the Buffalo does the soil? Lakota designer Sadie Red Wing explains more about all of this and more in this episode of Climify. Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcastsAbout our guestSadie Red Wing is a Lakota graphic designer and advocates from the Spirit Lake Nation of Fort Totten, North Dakota. Red Wing earned her BFA in New Media Arts and Interactive Design at the Institute of American Indian Arts. She received her Master of Graphic Design from North Carolina State University. Her research on cultural revitalization through design tools and strategies created a new demand for tribal competence in graphic design research. Red Wing urges Native American graphic designers to express visual sovereignty in their design work, as well as, encourages academia to include an indigenous perspective in the design curriculum. Currently, Red Wing serves as an Assistant Professor at OCAD University (Toronto, ONT).On the websadieredwing.comMusic in this episodeTheme music by Casual Motive Join us for Sadie’s Global Party Series event on September 15 RSVP   Climate Design AssignmentsAt the end of each episode, we ask our guests what their ideal climate design project would be. They have four weeks with a class full of design students. We translated their response into a project brief that you can use for your class. Get Assignments   Follow Climify on IG   « Back to episodes

Season 2: Episode 3 – Kate Yoder How we rebrand climate change is the million-dollar question. The solution is not one big rebrand, but many specific messages that connect better with different diverse groups of people, where recipes for climate action inspire others to make their own sustainability decisions. Learn more in this episode about what is needed to change your unsustainable habits and people you know, what doesn’t work to motivate others to act, why we need to celebrate climate progress, and the importance of designing through removing (and not making) from Kate Yoder, a climate journalist at Grist Magazine. Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcastsAbout our guestKate Yoder is a staff writer at Grist covering climate change with a focus on language, culture, history, and behavior. Her work has appeared in The Guardian, Mother Jones, and Wired, and her essay "War of Words" won a Folio Magazine Award for Essays and Criticism.On the webtwitter.com/katemyoderMusic in this episodeTheme music by Casual Motive   Climate Design AssignmentsAt the end of each episode, we ask our guests what their ideal climate design project would be. They have four weeks with a class full of design students. We translated their response into a project brief that you can use for your class. Get Assignments   Follow Climify on IG   « Back to episodes

Season 2: Episode 2 – Weslynne Ashton Our current human-centered cradle-to-grave design process only exacerbates our waste woes and worsens the climate crisis. How then can the designer transition their process away from this to one that creates to value and improve all life? A first step could be to understand the potential negative impacts of our work, to avoid them in the future. To see what those impacts could be, designers need to understand that everything is connected; a principle that is embedded in life-centered systems thinking. In this episode, Dr. Weslynne Ashton provides you with a better understanding of life-centered systems thinking, how she uses it in her classes and research, and provides readings and resources so you can begin your journey using systems thinking in your own design work and classroom.Mentioned in this episodeAshton+Dahle 2022 Systems and Systems Theory SeminarNogueira-etal 2019 RCR Expanding perceptions of circular economy - 8 capitals Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcastsAbout our guestDr. Ashton is a sustainable systems scientist, whose research, teaching, and practice are oriented around transitioning our socio-ecological systems towards sustainability and equity. She studies the adoption of socially and environmentally responsible strategies in business, and the role of innovation and entrepreneurship in addressing social and environmental challenges. Her research is grounded in industrial ecology and the circular economy. Her current work focuses on increasing sustainability and equity in urban food systems and developing regenerative economies in post-industrial regions, newly industrializing countries, and small island states.On the webid.iit.edu/people/weslynne-ashtonMusic in this episodeTheme music by Casual Motive   Climate Design AssignmentsAt the end of each episode, we ask our guests what their ideal climate design project would be. They have four weeks with a class full of design students. We translated their response into a project brief that you can use for your class. Get Assignments   Follow Climify on IG   « Back to episodes

Season 2: Episode 1 – Dr. Jacquelyn Gill Do you wonder if the little things you do to help fight our climate crisis matter? You’re not alone. Maine-based paleoecologist Dr. Jacquelyn Gill shares with Eric the amazing power of embracing hope over wallowing in despair to battle for every fraction of a degree. Tune in to learn more about why little things do matter, Jacquelyn’s thoughts on how designers play an important role in telling stories of climate data, and why designing on longer timescales helps make the most responsible creations.Mentioned in this episode“Discourses of Climate Delay”, the climate article mentioned by Jacquelyn Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcastsAbout our guestJacquelyn Gill is an ecologist and biogeographer interested in how landscapes change through space and time. She combines an interdisciplinary approach and a deep-time perspective to inform conservation and ecology. Here, she writes about ecology and climate change over time from the last ice age to the present day, and how our understanding of the past can help prepare us for the future. She also writes about Academia, diversity in STEM, science communication, and the occasional dung fungus.In Fall 2013, Jacquelyn joined the University of Maine as an Assistant Professor of Paleoecology & Plant Ecology with the School of Biology & Ecology and the Climate Change Institute. In addition to geeking out in the lab, in the field, and online, she enjoys games, knitting, science fiction, discovering new craft cocktails, cuddling her furry mesofauna, and exploring Maine’s forests, rivers, and islands.   On the webtwitter.com/JacquelynGillcontemplativemammoth.combeastlab.netwarmregardspodcast.comMusic in this episodeTheme music by Casual Motive   Climate Design AssignmentsAt the end of each episode, we ask our guests what their ideal climate design project would be. They have four weeks with a class full of design students. We translated their response into a project brief that you can use for your class. Get Assignments   Follow Climify on IG   « Back to episodes

Episode 17 – Eric Benson & Marc O’Brien Climate Designers co-founder Marc O’Brien joins Eric to discuss their eight major takeaways from season one of Climify. What did the climate experts think we should teach in the classroom? What impact did Climify have on the design community? What should we discuss on season two and who should we invite to the program?Resources mentioned in episodeClimate Designers EDUClimate Change Solutions Need the Design Educator, NowClimify Design AssignmentsMarc’s Twitter Example Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcastsAbout our guestMarc O’BrienMarc O'Brien is a climate designer, strategist, and educator. He co-founded The Determined, a design strategy and creative consulting studio making climate-focused projects look good, sound awesome, be seen, and get the support they need. Marc also co-founded Climate Designers, a hub for designers and creative professionals from all industries, committed to using our creative skills for climate action.Since 2013, Marc has been teaching part time at California College of the Arts in San Francisco, CA where he teaches undergrads and grads in both the Graphic Design department and Interaction Design. He geeks out talking about design and climate, how creativity can address global warming, and how designers can take climate action in the work they do. When not behind his laptop, he's out trail running, hiking, camping, traveling, hanging with friends at one of the many city parks, or exploring SF on my bamboo bike.   On the webmarcobrien.netlinkedin.com/in/marcmobrienMusic in this episodeTheme music by Casual Motive   Climate Design AssignmentsAt the end of each episode, we ask our guests what their ideal climate design project would be. They have four weeks with a class full of design students. We translated their response into a project brief that you can use for your class. Get Assignments   Follow Climify on IG   « Back to episodes

Episode 5 – Deep Dive series This episode references Climify’s Episode 5 – Fitbit for the Planet Design with Katie PatrickIn this episode, we are inspired by behavioral design and how this type of design can actively create change. We talk about giving power to creativity and vision while pushing away negativity and “doom”. We think about breaking down behavioral design into smaller steps and smaller initiatives to see measurable change. Rachel specifically reflects on her minor in Psychology and discusses the ways design psychology can be improved for future students. Furthermore, we discuss how we would like to see behavioral design implemented into the classroom like through UI/UX design and gamifying design. Lastly, we stress the importance of educators being real with their students while demonstrating hope and creative vision. ResourcesBehavior DesignValue Action GapWhat's Behavioral Design? Why Optimism and Creativity (Not Doom) Will Save the Planet, Katie Patrick Tedx Talkkatiepatrick.com Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcasts Special thanks to Noun Project for help with our episode artwork; Thumbs Up by Gregor Cresnar, Reward by Yaroslav Samoilov, Game by Hilmy Abiyyu Asad   Deep Dive is a Climify miniseries that explores opportunities for climate education through the eyes of recent design students. As new grads now working the 9-to-5, we’ll discuss themes centering around climate design and what educators can do to approach these topics. The classroom needs to see more intersectionality between design and climate, and we’re here to advocate for that.   About our hostsRachel CifarelliRachel is a freelance graphic designer and researcher using her skills to support and uplift those who are making the world a more sustainable place.She received her B.A. in communication design from Elon University, where she realized she was actually good at designing content more extensive than birthday cards. Rachel also always knew she was an environmentalist, but it took her a long time to figure out how to blend these two passions of design and sustainability together. It wasn't until she discovered Climate Designers that she saw a whole new career path unfold in front of her, one where she could make a living doing something she loves. Today Rachel works with environmentally-minded organizations and businesses on projects like branding, fact sheets, promotional materials, and digital assets. Some of her clients include Sierra Club, Bedford 2030, and Brooklyn Organic Kitchen.Rachel is also a researcher working on New Wave, a joint project with Climate Designers. What originally started as a class project during undergrad has grown into a sponsored research project that has garnered lots of support and participation. The goal of this research is to inform design educators how student designers understand sustainability in the design field and how they might like to see sustainability incorporated into their design curriculum. She wants to be part of establishing the climate design education in undergraduate universities that she never got from her own.Outside of work, Rachel enjoys reading, taking walks around her neighborhood, and visiting the best local eateries and breweries in her town.rachelcifarelli.comlinkedin.com/in/rachelcifarelliinstagram.com/rachelcifarelliGrace TurcichGrace is a Chicago-based graphic designer working at a marketing agency. She earned her BFA from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in Graphic Design. Since Grace’s transition from a full-time student to a full-time employee, she wants to know what else she can do for the climate. As a new climate designer, she is constantly learning how design and climate are intersectional. Grace hopes to discover new ways of learning, how to challenge the status quo, and become part of the solution within the fight for climate action.In her freetime, when she is not fighting for the planet, Grace is painting nail art, hiking, and baking a new recipe.Follow Grace’s climate design blog on instagram @unearthclimatedesign and her website grace-turcich.com.instagram.com/unearthclimatedesign   Follow us on Instagram and join us in the discussion on how to climify your syllabi.@climifypodcast   « Back to episodes

Episode 4 – Deep Dive series This episode references Climify’s Episode 1 – Sweatshops, Social Injustices, and Systemic Impacts of Fast Fashion with Jasmine SandersIn this episode, we discuss consumerism, the impact of consumerism with a sustainability lens, and how design contributes to, or combats, consumerism. We’ve discovered that the impact of fast fashion goes beyond just the types of fabric in use, but also affects social injustices like ethical labor and systemic privilege. We talk about consumerism tactics like greenwashing within marketing and branding, and how greenwashing leads to consumer distrust and consumer manipulation. We think about ways we can combat consumerism as designers through prioritizing our own ethics as Climate Designers. We discuss details of our ethics courses in college and how we would like to see them improved. And lastly, we consider how educators can better support students so we don’t fall into the deception of consumerism. How can students avoid feeling like baby birds being shoved out of their nest? How can our educational institutions create better connections within the sustainability world? We have some suggestions that include job fairs, teaching about and identifying greenwashing, and sharing resources for post-graduation.ResourcesMedium.com - The Role of Design in Slowing the Pace of ConsumerismMedium.com - Graphic Designs effect on ConsumerismWhat is greenwashing?Katie Patrick TedTalk - Why Optimism and Creativity (Not Doom) Will Save the PlanetThe Value-Action Gap: Why People Don’t Act in Accordance with Their Beliefs Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcasts Special thanks to Noun Project for help with our episode artwork; Shirt Donation by Sara Jeffries, Dollar by Vector Valley, Sneakers by Vector Market   Deep Dive is a Climify miniseries that explores opportunities for climate education through the eyes of recent design students. As new grads now working the 9-to-5, we’ll discuss themes centering around climate design and what educators can do to approach these topics. The classroom needs to see more intersectionality between design and climate, and we’re here to advocate for that.   About our hostsRachel CifarelliRachel is a freelance graphic designer and researcher using her skills to support and uplift those who are making the world a more sustainable place.She received her B.A. in communication design from Elon University, where she realized she was actually good at designing content more extensive than birthday cards. Rachel also always knew she was an environmentalist, but it took her a long time to figure out how to blend these two passions of design and sustainability together. It wasn't until she discovered Climate Designers that she saw a whole new career path unfold in front of her, one where she could make a living doing something she loves. Today Rachel works with environmentally-minded organizations and businesses on projects like branding, fact sheets, promotional materials, and digital assets. Some of her clients include Sierra Club, Bedford 2030, and Brooklyn Organic Kitchen.Rachel is also a researcher working on New Wave, a joint project with Climate Designers. What originally started as a class project during undergrad has grown into a sponsored research project that has garnered lots of support and participation. The goal of this research is to inform design educators how student designers understand sustainability in the design field and how they might like to see sustainability incorporated into their design curriculum. She wants to be part of establishing the climate design education in undergraduate universities that she never got from her own.Outside of work, Rachel enjoys reading, taking walks around her neighborhood, and visiting the best local eateries and breweries in her town.rachelcifarelli.comlinkedin.com/in/rachelcifarelliinstagram.com/rachelcifarelliGrace TurcichGrace is a Chicago-based graphic designer working at a marketing agency. She earned her BFA from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in Graphic Design. Since Grace’s transition from a full-time student to a full-time employee, she wants to know what else she can do for the climate. As a new climate designer, she is constantly learning how design and climate are intersectional. Grace hopes to discover new ways of learning, how to challenge the status quo, and become part of the solution within the fight for climate action.In her freetime, when she is not fighting for the planet, Grace is painting nail art, hiking, and baking a new recipe.Follow Grace’s climate design blog on instagram @unearthclimatedesign and her website grace-turcich.com.instagram.com/unearthclimatedesign   Follow us on Instagram and join us in the discussion on how to climify your syllabi.@climifypodcast   « Back to episodes

Episode 3 – Deep Dive series This episode references Climify’s Episode 10 – We Need to Break the Wheel with Ruth McElroy Amundsen & Alden CleanthesIn this episode, we talk about design thinking and, more broadly, design systems. We’ve found that design thinking is far removed from what we do at our day jobs at an agency and freelancing, since our jobs move so quickly. We wonder if there’s a way to speed up design thinking to bring it into an agency lifestyle, so that we can start building products and services that are truly impactful for both the people and planet. But we don’t just limit the conversation to design thinking. We also touch on design systems: what a design system is, how a design system can effectively create change, and what educators can do to translate design thinking and design systems for their students. Educators can use real businesses in their communities as examples, asking students to contribute to a business’s sustainability model while maintaining profits and ensuring all parties – the consumers, the business, and the planet – can benefit.ResourcesThe power of innovation and design thinking in implementing the 2030 agenda for sustainable developmentDesign Thinking and Sustainability - How to Develop Innovations for Our Common Futuredesignthinking.ideo.comre-nourish.org/systems-thinking Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcasts Special thanks to Noun Project for help with our episode artwork; Solar by MadexMade, Cycle by Alessandro Curci, Ruler by DinosoftLab   Deep Dive is a Climify miniseries that explores opportunities for climate education through the eyes of recent design students. As new grads now working the 9-to-5, we’ll discuss themes centering around climate design and what educators can do to approach these topics. The classroom needs to see more intersectionality between design and climate, and we’re here to advocate for that.   About our hostsRachel CifarelliRachel is a freelance graphic designer and researcher using her skills to support and uplift those who are making the world a more sustainable place.She received her B.A. in communication design from Elon University, where she realized she was actually good at designing content more extensive than birthday cards. Rachel also always knew she was an environmentalist, but it took her a long time to figure out how to blend these two passions of design and sustainability together. It wasn't until she discovered Climate Designers that she saw a whole new career path unfold in front of her, one where she could make a living doing something she loves. Today Rachel works with environmentally-minded organizations and businesses on projects like branding, fact sheets, promotional materials, and digital assets. Some of her clients include Sierra Club, Bedford 2030, and Brooklyn Organic Kitchen.Rachel is also a researcher working on New Wave, a joint project with Climate Designers. What originally started as a class project during undergrad has grown into a sponsored research project that has garnered lots of support and participation. The goal of this research is to inform design educators how student designers understand sustainability in the design field and how they might like to see sustainability incorporated into their design curriculum. She wants to be part of establishing the climate design education in undergraduate universities that she never got from her own.Outside of work, Rachel enjoys reading, taking walks around her neighborhood, and visiting the best local eateries and breweries in her town.rachelcifarelli.comlinkedin.com/in/rachelcifarelliinstagram.com/rachelcifarelliGrace TurcichGrace is a Chicago-based graphic designer working at a marketing agency. She earned her BFA from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in Graphic Design. Since Grace’s transition from a full-time student to a full-time employee, she wants to know what else she can do for the climate. As a new climate designer, she is constantly learning how design and climate are intersectional. Grace hopes to discover new ways of learning, how to challenge the status quo, and become part of the solution within the fight for climate action.In her freetime, when she is not fighting for the planet, Grace is painting nail art, hiking, and baking a new recipe.Follow Grace’s climate design blog on instagram @unearthclimatedesign and her website grace-turcich.com.instagram.com/unearthclimatedesign   Follow us on Instagram and join us in the discussion on how to climify your syllabi.@climifypodcast   « Back to episodes

Episode 2 – Deep Dive series In this episode, we talk about our own experiences with eco-anxiety. Eco-anxiety is defined by the Climate Psychology Alliance as the heightened emotional and mental distress in response to dangerous changes in the climate system. We’ve all felt it at one point or another, and if you haven’t, maybe your climate bubble just hasn't popped yet. Eco-anxiety can be difficult to talk about, but the more you talk about it, the less anxious you’ll feel. And if you don’t have anyone to talk about it with, then sit back and listen to us talk about it – it might relieve some of your worries to know that you’re not feeling this alone.We share when we first started feeling eco-anxious and the emotions we’ve felt while experiencing eco-anxiety, and we learn a new term: “solastalgia,” the pain or distress caused by the loss of a comforting place, the isolation one feels when their home or land is lost. We move into talking about eco-anxiety, and ways you can relieve your eco-anxiety through small tangible actions like composting, saving the cold water that comes out of your faucet, and connecting with the earth. And lastly, both educators and students can bring this discussion into their classrooms by opening up real and honest conversations about climate change and eco anxiety. We discuss how educators can prompt more solutions-based projects, and how students can choose to center their class projects around climate change (whether it’s explicitly assigned or not).ResourcesEcoanxiety.comClimate Psychology AllianceAustralasian Psychiatry-Solastalgia Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcasts Special thanks to Noun Project for help with our episode artwork; Hug by Teewara Soontorn, Compost by Juraj Sedlák, Hiker by P Thanga Vignesh   Deep Dive is a Climify miniseries that explores opportunities for climate education through the eyes of recent design students. As new grads now working the 9-to-5, we’ll discuss themes centering around climate design and what educators can do to approach these topics. The classroom needs to see more intersectionality between design and climate, and we’re here to advocate for that.   About our hostsRachel CifarelliRachel is a freelance graphic designer and researcher using her skills to support and uplift those who are making the world a more sustainable place.She received her B.A. in communication design from Elon University, where she realized she was actually good at designing content more extensive than birthday cards. Rachel also always knew she was an environmentalist, but it took her a long time to figure out how to blend these two passions of design and sustainability together. It wasn't until she discovered Climate Designers that she saw a whole new career path unfold in front of her, one where she could make a living doing something she loves. Today Rachel works with environmentally-minded organizations and businesses on projects like branding, fact sheets, promotional materials, and digital assets. Some of her clients include Sierra Club, Bedford 2030, and Brooklyn Organic Kitchen.Rachel is also a researcher working on New Wave, a joint project with Climate Designers. What originally started as a class project during undergrad has grown into a sponsored research project that has garnered lots of support and participation. The goal of this research is to inform design educators how student designers understand sustainability in the design field and how they might like to see sustainability incorporated into their design curriculum. She wants to be part of establishing the climate design education in undergraduate universities that she never got from her own.Outside of work, Rachel enjoys reading, taking walks around her neighborhood, and visiting the best local eateries and breweries in her town.rachelcifarelli.comlinkedin.com/in/rachelcifarelliinstagram.com/rachelcifarelliGrace TurcichGrace is a Chicago-based graphic designer working at a marketing agency. She earned her BFA from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in Graphic Design. Since Grace’s transition from a full-time student to a full-time employee, she wants to know what else she can do for the climate. As a new climate designer, she is constantly learning how design and climate are intersectional. Grace hopes to discover new ways of learning, how to challenge the status quo, and become part of the solution within the fight for climate action.In her freetime, when she is not fighting for the planet, Grace is painting nail art, hiking, and baking a new recipe.Follow Grace’s climate design blog on instagram @unearthclimatedesign and her website grace-turcich.com.instagram.com/unearthclimatedesign   Follow us on Instagram and join us in the discussion on how to climify your syllabi.@climifypodcast   « Back to episodes

Episode 1 – Deep Dive series This episode references Climify’s Episode 8 – Shifting Designers to Tackle Climate ChangeIn this episode, we’re talking cross-pollination – within and outside of design, that is. Why are we so siloed in our ways of learning and working? Is staying within one focused discipline *really* the best option? Are there better ways we could collaborate and learn from one another’s expertise? There’s lots of benefits of bringing in other collaborators of different ages, interests, backgrounds, etc. And there’s a lot to be learned from a discipline outside of your own!ResourcesClean CreativesWhy designers are siloed and how to break out of itBreaking silos for a more collaborative design process Listen to this episode on: Spotify, Apple, Google and other places you get your podcasts Special thanks to Noun Project for help with our episode artwork; University by Victoruler, Silo by Francielly Costantin Senra, Handshake by Amy Morgan   Deep Dive is a Climify miniseries that explores opportunities for climate education through the eyes of recent design students. As new grads now working the 9-to-5, we’ll discuss themes centering around climate design and what educators can do to approach these topics. The classroom needs to see more intersectionality between design and climate, and we’re here to advocate for that.   About our hostsRachel CifarelliRachel is a freelance graphic designer and researcher using her skills to support and uplift those who are making the world a more sustainable place.She received her B.A. in communication design from Elon University, where she realized she was actually good at designing content more extensive than birthday cards. Rachel also always knew she was an environmentalist, but it took her a long time to figure out how to blend these two passions of design and sustainability together. It wasn't until she discovered Climate Designers that she saw a whole new career path unfold in front of her, one where she could make a living doing something she loves. Today Rachel works with environmentally-minded organizations and businesses on projects like branding, fact sheets, promotional materials, and digital assets. Some of her clients include Sierra Club, Bedford 2030, and Brooklyn Organic Kitchen.Rachel is also a researcher working on New Wave, a joint project with Climate Designers. What originally started as a class project during undergrad has grown into a sponsored research project that has garnered lots of support and participation. The goal of this research is to inform design educators how student designers understand sustainability in the design field and how they might like to see sustainability incorporated into their design curriculum. She wants to be part of establishing the climate design education in undergraduate universities that she never got from her own.Outside of work, Rachel enjoys reading, taking walks around her neighborhood, and visiting the best local eateries and breweries in her town.rachelcifarelli.comlinkedin.com/in/rachelcifarelliinstagram.com/rachelcifarelliGrace TurcichGrace is a Chicago-based graphic designer working at a marketing agency. She earned her BFA from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in Graphic Design. Since Grace’s transition from a full-time student to a full-time employee, she wants to know what else she can do for the climate. As a new climate designer, she is constantly learning how design and climate are intersectional. Grace hopes to discover new ways of learning, how to challenge the status quo, and become part of the solution within the fight for climate action.In her freetime, when she is not fighting for the planet, Grace is painting nail art, hiking, and baking a new recipe.Follow Grace’s climate design blog on instagram @unearthclimatedesign and her website grace-turcich.com.instagram.com/unearthclimatedesign   Follow us on Instagram and join us in the discussion on how to climify your syllabi.@climifypodcast   « Back to episodes