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DemystifySci is Dr. Michael Shilo DeLay and Dr. Anastasia Bendebury. Together they untangle complex theories of nature, making analysis accessible through conversations with exceptional thinkers. Each week they interview a new theorist about the ideas that are going to rewrite our understanding of the world. Power them via Patreon: @demystifysci
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Aug 30, 2021 • 1h 39min
Changing How We Visualize Math - Dr. Hamish Todd, Data Scientist
Dr. Todd creates games and visual representations of complex ideas to help other scientists communicate their ideas. We spoke with him about the changing landscape of how we visualize math. We also get into the difference between physical shapes and mathematical shapes, what is a dimension?, and the fear of math that prevents engagement among new learners.
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Aug 23, 2021 • 1h 8min
What Dreams Are Made Of - Dr. Deirdre Barrett, Harvard
Dr. Deirdre Barrett has spent her career working with dreamers both in the clinic and classroom. She is also an accomplished visual artist, focused on reproducing her own dreams through a combination of AI and other computer-based manipulations.
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Aug 2, 2021 • 50min
This Pill Can Cure Your Loneliness - Dr. Moriel Zelikowsky, University of Utah
We speak with neuroscientist Moriel Zelikowsky about the basic brain science of social isolation.
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Citations:
Tachykinin research:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17786860/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1517/14728214.9.1.9
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091305706000736?via%3Dihub
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2885.2008.00952.x
Loneliness is bad for your health:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4391342/
Animal medicine
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4267359/

Jul 19, 2021 • 1h 41min
The Role of Song - Larry Crane, Tape Op
How did humans come to sing? We dig into the evolution of song to answer this question and shine some light on the adaptive role of song in humans.
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Jul 5, 2021 • 1h 37min
To Be Human is To Be Hypnotized - Kevin Stone, The Adaptive Role of the Trance
How can you be human - enjoy a movie, dance, or story - without going under at least a little bit now and then? To be human is to be hypnotized. In this episode, we explore the nature of hypnotism not just in humans but also in your more distant relatives. Why did organisms evolve this strange behavior, anyways? Don’t forget to check out the full interview with hypnotist Kevin Stone all about the role of hypnosis in society at large.
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Jun 21, 2021 • 2h 37min
The Modern Creation Myth & Stephen Crothers, Checking the Math
The Modern Creation Myth: At the start of the 20th century, mathematical physics, inspired by a series of instrumental discoveries in astrophysics, attempted to formulate an answer to the question of how the universe came to be. The resulting creation story, the big bang, was hailed as a triumph of reason and cosmic understanding. But was it really something new, or was it just a new version of the oldest myth known to humanity?
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Citations:
Banse, T. (2017, May 7). The oral history wasn't a myth. Tsunamis hit this tribal village five times, new study shows. NW News Network. https://www.nwnewsnetwork.org/post/oral-history-wasnt-myth-tsunamis-hit-tribal-village-five-times-new-study-shows.
Dine Bahane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Din%C3%A9_Bahane%CA%BC
Egyptian myths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_creation_myths#Common_elements
Einstein’s Conversion from the Static Universe: https://phys.org/news/2014-02-einstein-conversion-static-universe.html Harrison, E. (1986).
Newton and the Infinite Universe. Physics Today, 39(2), 24–32. doi:10.1063/1.881049 Hooper, D. (2020, May 14). Is the Big Bang in crisis? Astronomy.com. https://astronomy.com/magazine/news/2020/05/is-the-big-bang-in-crisis.
Hubble, Edwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble#Universe_goes_beyond_the_Milky_Way_galaxy Kirshner R. P. (2004). Hubble's diagram and cosmic expansion.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 101(1), 8–13. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2536799100
Lemaitre and Einstein: https://inters.org/einstein-lemaitre LEMAÎTRE, G.
The Beginning of the World from the Point of View of Quantum Theory. Nature 127, 706 (1931). https://doi.org/10.1038/127706b0
Livio, M. Mystery of the missing text solved. Nature 479, 171–173 (2011). https://doi.org/10.1038/479171a Nobel prizes in physics; https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/all-nobel-prizes-in-physics/ Povinelli, D. J., & Bering, J. M. (2002).
The Mentality of Apes Revisited. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 11(4), 115–119. doi:10.1111/1467-8721.00181
Slipher, Vesto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesto_Slipher Te Ahukaramū
Charles Royal, 'Māori creation traditions', Te Ara - the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, http://www.TeAra.govt.nz/en/maori-creation-traditions/print (accessed 14 June 2021)
Viracocha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viracocha#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20myth%20recorded,brainless%20giants%20that%20displeased%20him.
World egg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_egg

Jun 7, 2021 • 1h 30min
How Biology Beats Cheaters: A Lesson in Corporate Accountability - DC Attorney, Joel Corcoran
The tragedy of the commons is a frequent excuse for the often ill effects of efficient corporate industry. Curbing bad behavior can seem impossible - so we look to see how biology beats cheaters throughout the natural world. In the process, mother nature schools us in corporate accountability. Fortunately, cheaters don't seem to win in the long run!
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Citations:
Anupama Khare et al. Cheater-resistance is not futile. Nature, Published online 30 September 2009 DOI: 10.1038/nature08472
Andersen, S. B., Marvig, R. L., Molin, S., Johansen, H. K., & Griffin, A. S. (2015). Long-term social dynamics drive loss of function in pathogenic bacteria. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 112(34), 10756-10761.
Axelrod, R., & Hamilton, W. (1981). The evolution of cooperation. Science, 211(4489), 1390–1396. doi:10.1126/science.7466396
Balasundaram, Nimalathasan, Social Responsibility of Business: A Case Study of Grameen Phone in Bangladesh (July 26, 2009). Analele of University Bucharest, Economic and Administrative Sciences, 227-237 (2009), Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=2117904
Bastiaans, E., Debets, A. & Aanen, D. Experimental evolution reveals that high relatedness protects multicellular cooperation from cheaters. Nat Commun 7, 11435 (2016). https://doi.org/10.1038/ncomms11435
Bshary, R., & Grutter, A. S. (2005). Punishment and partner switching cause cooperative behaviour in a cleaning mutualism. Biology letters, 1(4), 396–399. https://doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2005.0344 Corporate Accountability: https://www.corporateaccountability.org/who-we-are/history/
Hardin G. The tragedy of the commons. The population problem has no technical solution; it requires a fundamental extension in morality. Science. 1968 Dec 13;162(3859):1243-8. PMID: 5699198.
Homo economicus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus Strassmann, J. E., & Queller, D. C. (2011). Evolution of cooperation and control of cheating in a social microbe.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 108 Suppl 2(Suppl 2), 10855–10862. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1102451108
Wenseleers, T., Helanterä, H., Hart, A. and Ratnieks, F.L.W. (2004), Worker reproduction and policing in insect societies: an ESS analysis. Journal of Evolutionary Biology, 17: 1035-1047. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2004.00751.x
Velicer, G. J., Kroos, L., & Lenski, R. E. (2000). Developmental cheating in the social bacterium Myxococcus xanthus . Nature, 404(6778), 598–601. doi:10.1038/35007066
Velicer, G. J., Kroos, L., & Lenski, R. E. (1998). Loss of social behaviors by myxococcus xanthus during evolution in an unstructured habitat.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 95(21), 12376–12380 https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.95.21.12376
Consumers want more responsible businesses (stats from University of Virginia Darden School of Business faculty members James Rubin and Barie Carmichael): https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/10487-corporate-social-accountability.html

May 24, 2021 • 2h 42min
Life After Growth - Dr. Mark Nelson, Biosphere 2
Some species are boom and bust - but for others, life after growth is a more steady affair. What will it be for humans?
If the past informs the future, a tragic tomorrow can seem inevitable: famine, war, disease, and destruction threaten to unfold at the end of every path. Escaping the past has meant maintaining physical and economic growth, but this leads to another set of worries: Does all this expansion doom humans to the boom and bust fate that awaits all exponential creatures? It might. But what if an endless cycle between growth and death is just one of many possible evolutionary strategies? This is the story of the meanwhile creatures, exponential growers who thrive and persist long after growth is done.
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May 12, 2021 • 1h 12min
The Strangeness of Ordered Water - Dr. Gerald Pollack, University of Washington
Dr. Gerald Pollack from the University of Washington discusses the significance of structured water in biology, challenging common misconceptions and exploring its role in cellular stability. Topics include the behavior of water molecules in cells, challenges in scientific research, the crucial role of water in biological processes, disruption of water layers in cells, the role of exclusion zone water in cellular energy processes, and the importance of funding unconventional cancer research.

May 3, 2021 • 1h 17min
The Age of Regeneration: Mars Makes Sense - Fraser Cain, Universe Today
Rather than being a landscape of death and destruction, the next age of planetary development could the age of regeneration - driven by the technological advancements that will be necessary to establish independent colonies on Mars.
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