
The DemystifySci Podcast
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DemystifySci is Dr. Michael Shilo DeLay and Dr. Anastasia Bendebury. Together they untangle complex theories of nature, making analysis accessible through conversations with exceptional thinkers. Each week they interview a new theorist about the ideas that are going to rewrite our understanding of the world. Power them via Patreon: @demystifysci
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Nov 11, 2023 • 2h 41min
How Collective Intelligence Will Rewrite Evolutionary Theory - Dr. J. Scott Turner, SUNY-ESF, DSPod 202
Dr. J. Scott Turner, a physiologist who has contributed extensively to our understanding of collective intelligence, discusses rewriting Darwin's theory with a focus on epigenetics, collective intelligence, and purpose. Topics include the lung-like structure of termite mounds, regulation of underground nests, limitations of Darwinism, complex interactions within termite colonies, humans as organelles in the superorganism, influence of grant money on scientific research, and reification in science.

Nov 5, 2023 • 2h 37min
Navy Antigravity Patents & The Superforce - Dr. Salvator Pais, US Navy DSPod 201
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Dr. Salvatore Pais is an aerospace engineer and inventor best known for being the owner, by way of the US Navy, of several patents for antigravity technology. The technology in the patents is based on what Pais calls the superforce - a Planckian derivation of the zero point energy of the quantum field that Pais suggest could yield nearly infinite amounts of energy. We discuss the first principles behind the math, the possible mechanisms of the technology, the long path from theory to implementation, and try to get to the bottom of who Pais is and where he comes from.
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Go!
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Path to the Office of Naval Research
(00:10:14)
Humble beginnings
(00:19:28)
Understanding the Math
(00:27:47)
Why treat time as an object
(00:38:04)
Unraveling the next scale of interactions
(00:48:40)
What's the value of reductionist thinking?
(01:00:58)
Securing funding for the superforce
(01:11:44)
Are we ready for the next stage of tech?
(01:21:04)
All ideas in their due time
(01:30:18)
Untangling the meaning of the superforce equation
(01:40:22)
Holy grail of unification?
(01:48:14)
The law of large numbers - a measurement bias?
(01:58:38)
The fluid nature of "plasma"
(02:09:47)
Superintelligence, reinvention, and "old" technology
(02:15:51)
Application trumps theory, but theory can drive implementation
(02:25:36)
Growing up in Romania
(02:33:19)
Closing thoughts
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PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities.
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Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 45min
Resolving Mind-Body Duality - Dr. Anna Ciaunica, Co-Embodied Self Lab, DSPod 198
Dr. Anna Ciaunica, a researcher at the Co-Embodied Self Lab, discusses topics such as proximal experiences, consciousness as not a 'thing,' touch and metacognition, hazards of extending consciousness to other organisms, fixing reification with futuristic articles, rocking babies and stadiums, language and thought across cultures, instrumentalizing depersonalization research, pathology of dissociation, cause for optimism in technofuturism, and male v. female brains investigate.

Oct 22, 2023 • 3h 39min
Pivotal Moments in Pre-history - David Ian Howe, DSPod 197
David Ian Howe is an archeologist who hosts the YouTube channel @davidianhowe where he explores the role of canines in the evolution of humanity. He is also specializes in flint knapping, bushcraft, and understanding the roots of what makes us human.
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00:00:00 Go!
00:00:31 Squishy term "species"
00:08:22 Why did humans pick dogs before cats?
00:17:10 Dogs & language interfacing with humans
00:23:00 Humans meet fire
00:37:16 Specialization of roles in ancient society
00:46:58 Lifespan for early hominids
00:56:20 Evolutionary psych is taboo - should it be?
01:06:53 Interspecies hominid wars
01:17:06 Defining human
01:29:53 Pricing the utility of anthro & archeology
01:43:42 Crowd-funding archeology
02:08:11 Institutional trust
02:35:21 Evolving role of women in science & society
02:42:38 Working out ideas in public
02:59:14 Social hierarchy in humans and apes
03:15:38 Different modes of thinking & learning
03:27:44 Studying the past to learn the masters' techne
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#PrehistoricHumans, #AncientHistory, #HumanHistory, #AncientDogs, #PrehistoricCanines, #HumanAnimalBond, #Archaeology, #EarlyCivilizations, #Domestication, #DogBreeds, #PaleolithicEra, #NeolithicEra, #AncientPets, #ArchaeologicalDiscoveries, #DogAncestry, #EvolutionofDogs, #AncientArtifacts, #FossilEvidence, #HumanCompanionship, #HistoryofDogs.
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PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities.
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Oct 19, 2023 • 2h 29min
Unraveling a Magnetic Cosmos - Dr. Enrique Lopez Rodriguez, Stanford Astrophysicist, DSPod 196
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Dr. Enrique Lopez Rodriguez is an astrophysicist at Stanford’s Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology, where is working on a comprehensive survey of magnetic fields in nearby galaxies. He has published extensively on the subjects of extragalactic magnetism, active galactic nuclei, infrared polarimetric instrument, and next generation telescopes. We talk about studying the invisible, developing models for the structure of the cosmos, becoming the highest Canarian that ever lived, the value of mad geniuses, becoming useful, and much more.
00:00:00 Go!
00:00:16 Talking magnetic fields
00:11:20 Who is Enrique Lopez Rodriguez
00:25:17 Absence of coherent theories
00:33:26 Electromagnetism vs Gravity
00:44:15 Magnetic reversals and long cycle effects
00:53:39 Getting an accurate read on the cosmos
01:03:07 Instrumentalizing the Cosmos
01:13:11 Bringing new ideas around
01:22:37 Brilliance lost to rough talk
01:32:45 Finding space for ideas to unfurl
01:43:01 Dealing with mad genius
01:54:03 Orphaning of ideas
02:03:19 The only place in the world you get paid to explore
02:13:30 There's no place like home
02:25:56 Closing thoughts
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#magnetism #électromagnétisme #cosmicmagnets #cosmology #astrophysics #astronomy #astromagnetism #electricuniverse #electromagneticuniverse #gravity #galacticmarvels #galaxy #galaxyscience #stanford #stanfordastrophysics #stanfordphysics #science #sciencepodcast #longformpodcast #demystifyscipodcast #demystifysci #longformscience #longformconversations #deepthoughts #whoadude
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Oct 15, 2023 • 2h 7min
Transhumanism, Computer Consciousness, and Stigmergy - Dr. Subhash Kak, Computer Scientist, DSPod 195
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Dr. Subhash Kak is the Regents Professor of Computer Science at Oklahoma State University Stillwater, an honorary visiting professor or engineering at Jawaharlal Nehru University, and a member of the Indian Prime Minister’s Sincere, Technology and Innovation Advisory Council. He has published widely on the history of science, ancient astronomy, the history of mathematics, and archaeoastronomy. We talk with him about the nature of consciousness in the universe, why computers (in their current form) will never be fully conscious, missing pieces of evolutionary theory, trans humanist futures, and the way that life emerges from the constants of the universe but at the end, is just about learning to die.
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(00:00:17) Who is Subash Kak
(00:13:18) Fundamental constants of the universe
(00:28:43) A definition for Consciousness
(00:40:09) Stigmergy: Emergence without coordination
(00:52:56) Missing pieces of evolutionary theory
(01:01:22) Spirit in science
(01:06:08) Will Computers be Conscious?
(01:13:17) Transhumanist future
(01:25:05) Differences between computers and humans
(01:38:15) Netflix, Videogames, and the experience of Death
(01:47:31) Becoming a poet
(01:55:17) A failure of vision
(01:59:21) "Divine" force of Evolution
(02:04:15) Closing thoughts
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Oct 12, 2023 • 1h 18min
Are Glaciation Cycles Over? Dr. Gavin Schmidt, NASA Goddard DSPod 194
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Dr. Gavin Schmidt is the Director of the Goddard Institute of Space Science, and is back for a followup conversation about carbon dioxide, climate change, modeling, and to set the record straight about wether or not we have more glaciations in our future.
00:00:00 Go!
00:00:18 Controversy!
00:04:48 Steelmanning Lindzen
00:13:04 Ocean mixing
00:23:12 Interglacial max temps
00:34:48 No more glaciations?
00:43:39 Every civilization has been threatened by climate change
00:50:38 CO2 v. toxin
00:56:18 Peak oil?
01:03:09 Hole in the Ozone...still there?
01:08:11 Cosmic rays & climate (Nir Shaviv)
01:13:10 Closing thoughts
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Oct 9, 2023 • 2h 53min
How WWII Politics Killed the Aether - Dr. Kathy Joseph, Kathy Loves Physics - DSPod 193
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Kathy Joseph is a historian of physics and the force behind @KathyLovesPhysics , an exploration of the cultural, historical, and social forces that shape physics behind the scenes. We talk to her about unconventional paths to science, the value of understanding history, the surprising ways in which science is shaped by cultural fashions, how materialism came and went, the birth of the aether, and the campaign to discredit relativity as a “Jewish science”
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00:00:00 Go!
00:00:21 Kathy's book & books we love
00:08:50 Dunning Kruger is misunderstood
00:17:39 A community of ideas
00:27:23 Tesla as physics monk & mascot
00:36:18 Math isn't science
00:45:38 The material atomics project
00:58:40 Back to Dunning Kruger
01:15:45 Giving knowledge, hiding discoveries
01:22:23 Cleaning up Maxwell's equations
01:25:07 Death of the Aether
01:33:59 Invention of fields
01:39:09 Scientific culture that approved of disregarding mediators
01:56:50 Maxwell demands an aether
02:07:01 Aether & nazi politics
02:12:26 Sometimes simplicity rules, regardless
02:27:57 Mechanism as stories
02:33:12 Something you'll really like
02:40:29 Interest in the known vs. unknown
02:50:59 Closing thoughts, history of spin 1/2
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Oct 5, 2023 • 58min
Myth, Meaning, and Modernity - James Hollis, MD - DSPod 192
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Dr. James Hollis is a Jungian psychoanalyst, author, and public speaker who has written seventeen books and served as the executive director of the Jung Society of Washington. He stopped by the podcast for a short conversation on the search for meaning in a modern world, the way that mythology allows us to take some of the load off of our shoulders, and how the disappearance of the gods from Mount Olympus means that we are operate in a disorienting era of personal responsibility without any of the guideposts that we used to rely on.
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00:00:00 Go!
00:02:33 J functions and P functions
00:05:39 The Cliff of Isms
00:07:50 Humans haven't changed much
00:13:10 A solution to addiction
00:18:15 A tradition of shamanic healing
00:22:07 When the gods leave olympus
00:25:48 Depth psychology and the god of rage
00:31:58 A vapid cosmology
00:40:44 a modern fracture
00:43:53 Mythological escape
00:51:07 An individual or collective process?
00:53:55 Escaping commercial culture
00:55:46 Shifting the task of meaning
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Oct 1, 2023 • 2h 24min
Pricing the Priceless - Dr. Steve Keen, DSci Pod 191
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Steve Keene is a post-Keynesian economist who has spent the last fifty years criticizing mainstream economics as inconsistent, unscientific, and empirically unsupported. As part of his effort to rebuild the discipline with a more complete understanding of the relationship between humans and their environment, Keen has begun developing alternative economic models that could be used to fairly redistribute wealth from the richest 1% to the rest of us, and to accurately evaluate the worth of clean air, clean water, and a healthy biosphere. We talk about the way that almost all civilizations end because of climate change, and what that means for our own world.
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00:00:00 Go!
00:00:23 News and updates
00:04:40 running for office
00:08:15 Politics without money - impossible?
00:13:50 A unique compression of time
00:16:12 Custodians of nature
00:32:09 Climate Change is Inevitable
00:42:17 Controlling populations is a social disaster
00:55:34 A carrot and stick war on drugs
01:09:26 Redesigning economics
01:15:13 Spaceship economics
01:22:41 The energy problem
01:41:52 Speciation
01:51:35 UBI, Motivation & Opposition
02:01:05 An Analytic Foundation
02:15:05 What classical economics got wrong
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