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Sep 19, 2025 • 35min

First Draft Live Ep 14: The Decision: What The Fed Just Told CRE (with Jim Costello)

The starting gun has gone off: The Federal Reserve lowered interest rates 25 basis points. Now CRE can be off to the races.At least that’s the narrative.In practice, CRE cares more about long-term debt, and the 10-year Treasury ran counter to expectations and actually rose 10 bps, Jim Costello, MSCI’s director of real estate economics, said on this week’s show. Besides, the industry’s problems go far beyond interest rates, and 25 bps isn’t large enough to make much difference.“If you want to be successful in CRE, it’s not about that home run of capital market forces lifting the value tremendously,” Costello said. “It’s going to be a lot of singles and doubles.”That means a focus on proper leasing, getting the right broker, careful analysis of tenants and focusing on operating expenses.How about all that money waiting on the sidelines — will that finally loosen up with the drop in rates?“Here’s the thing about dry powder: When you get a little wind, it can blow it away,” Costello said.“If you don’t have a situation where managers can place money effectively and hit their IRRs, that dry powder will dissipate.”
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Sep 12, 2025 • 26min

First Draft Live Ep 13: Debt Meets The Housing Crunch (with Sharon Karaffa)

It’s a high-pressure year for multifamily. Looming maturities, tough capital markets, changing policies, a major shake-up of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the horizon and intensified national attention are all converging to complicate the sector.But multifamily fundamentals are strong, Sharon Karaffa, president of multifamily debt and structured finance at Newmark, said on this week’s episode.“Absorption has been very high and vacancies are very low. Most of the supply wave is behind us,” she said. “So we think we’re on the upswing.”The ending of the conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could disrupt the market, depending on how exactly it happens.Karaffa said it is critical that the privatized organizations have a line to the Treasury to maintain affordability, that a strict regulatory framework is put in place to avoid the mess of the Global Financial Crisis and that the agencies are not combined — the market needs both to keep competition alive.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 29min

First Draft Live Ep 12: The Bond Market’s Warning To Real Estate (with Chris Stanley)

In this discussion, Chris Stanley, the banking industry practice lead at Moody’s Analytics, breaks down the turbulent bond markets affecting commercial real estate. He explains how rising UK gilt yields and U.S. Treasury volatility are complicating refinancing and valuations. Stanley emphasizes the necessity of managing liquidity and understanding the yield curve. He also touches on balance sheet management in a nervous economy and how the dynamics of credit are shifting amidst increasing delinquencies in office and multifamily properties.
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Aug 22, 2025 • 28min

First Draft Live Ep 11: CMBS Pain Is Only Beginning (with Ethan Penner)

This episode of First Draft Live is presented by Agora.The godfather of the CMBS market issued a warning that commercial real estate is not out of the woods of its downturn, which is a potential problem for the U.S. economy. “The losses in CRE are so big that the rippling effect of those losses to the economy are so big that they could be quite harmful,” Ethan Penner, the founder of Mosaic Real Estate Investors, said on this week’s First Draft Live.Roughly $23B of CMBS loans have matured without a resolution, and more than 10% are delinquent or in special servicing. Yet the CMBS lending market is roaring, with $60B in new debt issued in just the first six months of this year.“The truth is there are massive, massive losses in real estate,” said Penner, who is credited with inventing the commercial mortgage-backed security in the early 1990s. “These are breathtaking losses, and I think that clearly the system hasn’t recognized that on any level.”Penner also spoke about his candidacy for the California governor’s race in 2026, with a platform focused on deregulation and a radical new approach to the homelessness crisis in the state.“I don’t know where the toilets are in the state house, that makes me an outsider,” he said. “But I do know that the systems are broken.”Register on Bisnow.com to join the next conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Aug 15, 2025 • 29min

First Draft Live Ep. 10: Inside The Construction Danger Zone (with Les Hiscoe)

This episode of First Draft Live is presented by Agora.It’s been a chaotic year for the construction industry. Between a volatile tariff regime, elevated interest rates and increased pressures on its labor force, contractors have had to navigate one of the most difficult environments in recent memory. On this week’s First Draft Live, Shawmut Design and Construction CEO Les Hiscoe breaks down the impacts of the uncertainty and how his $2B Boston-based company is handling the turmoil. “When things aren’t known and you can’t really plan on them in our industry, you can’t give our clients predictability,” he said on the show.While many developers are responding to the moment by delaying projects — Hiscoe said one of his clients won’t start building until interest rates fall a full percentage point — Shawmut is advising them against it as the impacts of tariffs have yet to fully be realized.“Waiting is a mistake,” he said.Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Aug 8, 2025 • 33min

First Draft Live Ep. 9: Opportunity Zones: We're Not In 1.0 Anymore (with Steve Glickman)

The original Opportunity Zone program drove more than $100B into real estate and business investment, but it also faced criticism it missed its mark, failing to spur development in the areas that needed it most.The One Big Beautiful Bill Act just made OZs permanent and it aims to fix all that, tightening the rules on what areas may be designated OZs, lowering the area median income threshold and heavily incentivizing rural development.On this week’s First Draft Live, Steve Glickman — co-author of the original OZ program and CEO of Statt — said OZs have been a wild success, especially at spurring much-needed housing.“You’re talking bang for the buck that’s unparalleled,” he said.Glickman said the new rules will make OZ 2.0 even better, though how much it drives rural development all comes down to designating sites at “the nexus between need and investability.”Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Aug 1, 2025 • 30min

First Draft Live Ep. 8: Inside CRE's Tariff Turning Point (with James Bohnaker)

Liberation Day Part 2 has come and gone, and the U.S. has more clarity on the global trade landscape.Some of the levies will have CRE breathing easier, but some — including the 35% rate on Canada, a hugely important market for construction material imports — might be worse than the industry feared. Already, tariffs have driven construction costs up anywhere from 6% to 10%.But at least some of the uncertainty has been chipped away. How will CRE react?Cushman & Wakefield Senior Economist James Bohnaker said he expects deals to start moving forward again, though in a slow slog, not a rush. But with the U.S. is in an unprecedented macroeconomic environment, scenario planning by CRE investors is crucial.Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Jul 25, 2025 • 32min

First Draft Live Ep. 7: Can The Grid Keep Up? Inside The Data Center Surge Reshaping CRE (with Dan Rabb)

The rise of AI is pushing data centers to their limits. Calls for bigger, denser facilities are increasing and tenant power requirements are doubling in many markets.It’s still not enough to meet the needs of today’s market or tomorrow’s users.On this episode, Bisnow National Data Center Reporter Dan Rabb said keeping the momentum of the data center boom is all about finding power. And while possible solutions abound — microgrids and nuclear among them — being provided today aren’t going to come through fast enough.Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Jul 18, 2025 • 29min

First Draft Live Ep. 6: Has Real Estate’s Crypto Moment Finally Arrived? (with Gabe Marans)

Though a few brave (or crazy) pioneers have dabbled with using crypto in commercial real estate, the industry has mostly sat on the sidelines for years.The reason: not enough regulation, no stability or guardrails.This week, that started to change. The passage of the GENIUS Act to create a framework for stablecoins, plus two other bills making their way through Congress, could lead to a rapid rise of building tokenization, digital transactions and rents paid by bitcoin.On this week’s episode, Savills Vice Chairman Gabe Marans said the federal framework will kick off a new era for real estate in which deals are done faster and cheaper. And he doesn’t think CRE is ready for it.Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 
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Jul 11, 2025 • 30min

First Draft Live Ep. 5: The Bill That Just Rewired Multifamily (with Alex Jessett)

The One Big Beautiful Bill is now law, and its impact on housing could be massive.The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit received its biggest reform in 25 years, including halving the requirements of how much of its funding must come from municipal bonds.LIHTC and the Opportunity Zones program were both made permanent, and major adjustments to OZs — including a wave of new zones to come and a new focus on rural areas — could supercharge housing development.It’s not just a welcome step from the U.S. government, Camden President and Chief Financial Officer Alex Jessett said on this week’s episode — new tax treatment and a deregulation push are absolutely critical to get housing supply up and start to chip away at the nation’s affordable housing crisis.Register on Bisnow.com to join next Friday's conversation live, or check back here for the conversation after it airs. 

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