Oh God, What Now?

We unpack Johnson’s latest partygate pseudo-apology and analyse the Government’s controversial Rwanda asylum plans. Might the PM’s hubris finally catch up with him? The panel also casts an eye to France as the nation’s presidential election comes to its climax, with veteran correspondent John Lichfield joining as this week’s guest. “The Conservatives are looking around thinking: 'This is a party absolutely stacked with shite.'” – Ian Dunt  “If the worst Johnson can do is compare Starmer to Corbyn, then he's in a pretty terrible state.” – Ian Dunt "The Rwanda plan is designed to rile up people like us." – Ian Dunt “France is, very dangerously, becoming split in three ways” – John Lichfield “The French have written off Boris some time ago as someone not to be taken seriously.” – John Lichfield “I think Macron is going to be re-elected, and that is an extraordinary exploit.” – John Lichfield  “I don’t think anyone is actually going to get sent to Rwanda… the plan has so many holes in it I just can’t see it working” – Arthur Snell  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Arthur Snell and Ian Dunt. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant Producer: Elina Ganatra. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Johnson becomes the first PM to be convicted of a crime when in office. We look at the times Britain HAS changed its PM during a war, the fines that are coming – and how Johnson is now hiding behind the Ukrainian people so he doesn’t get No Confidenced. Aussi, la merde frappe le ventilateur in the French elections. And Penny Mordaunt, Tank Girl. Labour MP for Leeds NW Alex Sobel is our special guest.  “You don’t have to be a Non-Dom to be a Chancellor – but it helps, right?” – Naomi Smith “The question is, where is the bottom of the Tories’ moral compass? How low can Johnson go?” – Alex Sobel “My own father died during COVID and I wasn’t able to touch him – because I, like everyone else except our leaders, followed the rules.” – Naomi Smith “I would be willing to put my hand on my heart and say that Rishi Sunak will never be Conservative Party leader.” – Alex Sobel “Populism is the promise that the harshest possible laws will apply to everyone else. That is the Le Pen offer.” – Alex Andreou “Everyone forgets that the main reason Sunak became Chancellor was simply because he was compliant.” – Alex Sobel Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Naomi Smith and Alex Andreou. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant producer: Elina Ganatra. Audio production Alex Rees. Theme music by Cornershop. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dorries decides to sell Channel 4 (definitely not out of revenge), it’s two years of Keir, and populism wins again with Orbán. Guest Matt Forde, comedian and host of The Political Party podcast, joins us to look at how Labour has shifted under two years of Starmer and where it goes next. Plus, we look at what’s behind Nadine Dorries’ decision – and what will come of another Orbán victory in Hungary? “Starmer didn’t want to be in a position where he had to remove the whip from Corbyn, it didn’t make his life easier.” – Ian Dunt  “For the first time since Gordon Brown, Labour has the better candidate to be Prime Minister.” – Matt Forde  “Labour might not be 20 points ahead of the Tories, but they are 25 points ahead of where they were under Corbyn.” – Ros Taylor  “I think he [Johnson] has totally underestimated how livid people are… I think he is totally out of touch with the anger and the hurt.” – Matt Forde “Channel 4 is an easier target than the BBC. People are less attached to it, and Dorries is less afraid to take it on.” - Ros Taylor www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Alex Andreou with Ian Dunt and Ros Taylor. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant Producer: Elina Ganatra. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With Partygate fines being dished out, special guest Emily Thornberry joins us to discuss Government scandals and sleaze. The shadow attorney general weighs in on Boris Johnson’s position, as it appears evermore untenable. Plus, we discuss the Labour’s future prospects, hopes for change …and the Tories eternally wading into the war on woke.  “You can’t have some rules for some people and no rules for other people. We don’t have gods among us.” – Emily Thornberry  “Of course the British people want to help people, but we don’t have a government that can step up to that.” – Emily Thornberry  “We have to win so many seats back and to do it in one leap is going to be difficult.” – Emily Thornberry  “You can be as radical and beautiful as you want to be, but if you don’t get elected, you’re no use to anybody.” – Emily Thornberry  "If Labour isn't the party for the disempowered and marginalised, then why are we here?" – Emily Thornberry www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Andreou and Naomi Smith. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We analyse whether there was anything but jam tomorrow from the chancer Chancellor in his Spring Statement. During a historic cost of living crisis, has Rishi Sunak come anywhere close to meeting the moment? Plus, as scandals surrounding Boris Johnson and his Government resurface, we dive into the sleaze. Will Davies, a professor in political economy and co-author of Unprecedented?: How COVID-19 Revealed the Politics of Our Economy, is this week’s guest.  “This statement struck the wrong note for the challenge we as a country are facing.” – Alex Andreou “It is useful for Johnson to draw a line between himself and Europe, and the EU can get more done without Britain.” – Ros Taylor  “Johnson will no doubt want to use Ukraine in any way he can to distract from partygate.” – Will Davies “Sunak had the choice of doing right by the country or right by the party, and he chose the latter.” – Alex Andreou www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Andreou and Ros Taylor. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Government shortcomings amid Ukraine’s invasion are clear, with questions over refugee support and Russian influence in British politics. The panel discusses oligarch controversy, issues for those trying to flee to Britain and global shifts the present crisis is sparking. Guardian columnist and The Long View presenter Jonathan Freedland is our special guest this week.  “You can’t deal with this on your own, of course not. It has to be European solidarity.” – Jonathan Freedland  “If you’re mixing at parties with celebrities and politicians, you’re going to have gossip on them.” – Naomi Smith  “We’ve seen a realignment of the world into dictatorship vs democracy.” – Jonathan Freedland  “Russians are the first victims of Putinism, they’ve been both gagged and blindfolded, and we need to liberate them.” – Jonathan Freedland  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Ros Taylor with Ian Dunt and Naomi Smith. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Live in London… How will Putin’s Ukraine gamble play out? Has Johnson got away with Partygate? Which pundit wins the Worst Take on Ukraine award? Ian, Dorian, Ros, Minnie (live debut!) and special crossover guest Arthur Snell of Doomsday Watch/The Bunker discuss these issues and more before a brilliant live audience at the Leicester Square Theatre.Text the word SUPPORT to 70150 to send £10 to the Disasters Emergency Committee Ukraine Humanitarian Appeal.www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Ros Taylor, Minnie Rahman, Arthur Snell and Ian Dunt. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production Alex Rees. Theme music by Cornershop. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Special thanks to Jess Davies and all at the Leicester Square Theatre. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As Ukrainian resistance awes the world, can EU sanctions stop Russia – or are the risks of confronting Putin just too great? Plus the Government’s cruel refugee policy, unexplained oligarch wealth, and the ignominy of Stop The War. This week’s special guest is former Conservative MP, defence minister and Change UK leader Anna Soubry. “Ukraine has made people realise what the nature of a refugee really is.” – Anna Soubry “The financial assault on Russia is economic warfare of the highest order.” – Ian Dunt “Parliament voting against airstrikes in Syria in 2013 was a dreadful mistake. It showed Putin he could essentially do what he wanted.” – Anna Soubry “There are two frontlines. There’s the battle in Ukraine and the financial assault on Russia.” – Ian Dunt “This is almost a betrayal… We have spent eyewatering amounts of money on nuclear weapons and it turns out that the bully can win anyway?” – Ann Soubry “Zelenskyy puts himself in the public eye and in harm’s way, exactly the way Putin doesn’t.” – Naomi Smith Find resources to help the Ukrainian people here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Ian Dunt and Naomi Smith. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

**This episode was recorded prior to Russia's assault on Ukraine on Thursday.**Putin pounces. Ukraine in peril. COVID sidelined at home. Romeo Kokriatski, managing editor of New Voice of Ukraine, joins us from Kyiv to talk about the horror posed by Russia’s aggression. Plus, comedian and creator of The Room Next Door Michael Spicer joins us to discuss what’s going on domestically, as Boris Johnson tries to ignore his way out of the pandemic.  “Putin is a dictator, he doesn’t need a reason to do anything.” - Romeo Kokriatski  “Russia’s demands were completely unacceptable. It would leave NATO countries on Russia’s borders completely undefended.” - Romeo Kokriatski “Apart from the US, Britain can hurt Russia the most, yet we aren’t fulfilling our obligations.” - Ian Dunt  “Covid is not the same as a cold. How are people meant to protect others if they don’t know they have it?” - Minnie Rahman  “There’s been a running narrative of ‘when will they get this right?’ about this government.” - Michael Spicer  “As long as this Government is in charge, there will always be material for comedy.” - Michael Spicer www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Ian Dunt and Minnie Rahman. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Russia insists troops are being withdrawn from the Ukrainian border, but is there a genuine deescalation? What happens next? We assess the crisis and Britain’s reaction to it. Plus, with our institutions in disarray as the Government remains embroiled in scandal, what needs to change? Former diplomat and civil servant Alexandra Hall Hall is today’s special guest. “I find it so frustrating that Russia is spinning this narrative that NATO’s actions are somehow provocative.” - Alexandra Hall Hall “This situation is the best opportunity for Boris Johnson to perform his ‘wannabe Churchill’ routine.” - Alexandra Hall Hall “There has been a hollowing out of the ethos of the senior civil service.” – Alex Andreou  “In order to deliver Brexit, so many conventions were trampled upon.” – Alexandra Hall Hall www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Andreou and Ros Taylor. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices