Oh God, What Now?

There were some frankly bizarre statements made at the National Conservatism Conference. Now it’s over, we’re left asking: what was the point of it all? Our Seth Thevoz was there and spoke to Andrew Harrison about what he made of it. Plus, Kemi Badenoch: problem solver or is she just making everything worse? We know the answer. And in the extra bit - for subscribers only - our panel talks Succession and the parallels it draws with reality. “It’s like they’re talking about a Conservative Party loss that they haven’t had yet….it’s bizarre.” – Rachel Wearmouth “We’re seeing an ideology looking for its Trump.” – Alex Andreou “It’s absolutely an American import from a mile off and the amount of people trying to make Britain wear it frightens me.” – Alex Andreou “It’s the most obvious case of rage-farming.” – Matt Green Read about Seth Thevoz’s day out at the zoo: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/inside-national-conservatism-conference-suella-braverman-immigration-wind-farms-rifles/ www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Andreou, Matt Green and Rachel Wearmouth. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees and Chris Jones. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Tories are at each other’s throats…again. Both Suella Braverman and Priti Patel took a pop at the party’s leadership at recent conservative conferences. Could Sunak survive a looming Tory revolt? And the state pension age may rise to 68, would you return to work if it meant a shot at rebuilding the country? Plus, the panel discusses their favourite accents and why we judge them so much. “The point here about the Conservatives is that they’re finished.” – Tom Peck. “I think it’s a deepening and a radicalisation of the rump that is left of Conservative support in the UK.” – Naomi Smith “I am totally expecting to have to find work when I’m 70, unfortunately.” – Hannah Fearn “I don’t think people are going to go back to their job to rebuild the country, because people just aren’t like that.” – Tom Peck www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison with Naomi Smith, Tom Peck and Hannah Fearn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Government’s Illegal Migration Bill is “morally unacceptable” according to the Archbishop of Canterbury. But since when did that stop the Conservatives? We look at the chaos, the confusion and the growing asylum seeker backlog. Plus, Labour did OK in the locals but were the real winners the Greens and the Lib Dems? And what does it mean for the General Election? And in the Extra Bit, for subscribers only, our panel discusses their favourite on-air mistakes.  “The UNHCR says the legislation would amount to an asylum ban and undermine international legislation… it’s a horrible, horrible plan.” - Naomi Smith “I can’t see how it’s anything other than a floating prison.” - Naomi Smith “Cast your mind back, Labour had a 20 to 30 point lead and now it has a 12 point lead, which is quite a big drop.” - Naomi Smith “Things like rivers full of shit are very high on people’s agendas and people are very clear that the Tories have done that to them.” - Arthur Snell www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Ros Taylor, Marie Le Conte, Arthur Snell and Naomi Smith. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Alex Rees with voice acting by Will Bond. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The republicans doth protest too much, according to the Met police. Can the force change? And does it really want to? Speaking of change, should the Tories be terrified by the local election results? And Trump, Carlson and DeSantis – no, not the start of a bad joke, but a trio who are pushing forward the far-right in America.  “In recent years, it’s felt there has been scandal after scandal after scandal from the Met.” – Rachel Cunliffe “If you hand the police sweeping new powers and say you can arrest someone for having a bike lock, guess what? They’re going to use them.” – Rachel Cunliffe “I don't think individual officers actually understand the law as it stands.” – Rachel Cunliffe  “It’s arresting people for thought crimes, it’s a sad moment. It will do a lot for the republican cause.” – Gavin Esler  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Alex Andreou with Rachel Cunliffe, Yasmeen Serhan and Gavin Esler. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Despite the Tories’ best efforts at damage control they still got utterly trounced at the locals. Stopping boats didn’t work (in any way whatsoever) and neither didn’t stopping votes. So while Sunak will be moping, should the rest of us – and Starmer in particular – celebrate? Or are the results a little more confusing than that? Andrew, Ros and Naomi discuss.  “Without question it has been a very bad night for the Conservatives.” – Naomi Smith  “It’s very clear lots of Conservatives just stayed at home.” – Naomi Smith  “There is no possibility of Johnson coming back, it’s his friends trying to humour him. It’s pathetic.” – Ros Taylor  “It’s clear Starmer would be different. But what would he do? Labour needs to answer that.” – Ros Taylor “How incredible that the Tories did this badly even with their voter suppression activities in place. How much worse would they have done without it?” – Naomi Smith “Any thwarted vote is a disgrace. It’s straightforwardly awful to turn people away.” – Ros Taylor Tell the Government what you think about its Voter ID rollout: https://www.bestforbritain.org/voter_id_shambles_tell_the_government_what_you_thinkwww.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Andrew Harrison with Ros Taylor and Naomi Smith. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s Coronation weekend and Charles “invites” you to pledge your allegiance to the crown. A wholesome tradition? Or just a bit much? And should we actually read much into the local elections? We ask special guest Ben Walker, senior data journalist at New Statesman and a Labour council candidate. Then in the extra bit – for subscribers only – with rock legends Aerosmith retiring, the panel discusses people they’d like to see pack it in.  “I won’t be saying it and I imagine very very few people will be standing on their sofas shouting the words out either.” – Ian Dunt “You’ve got a fundamental problem and that is that councils have been almost completely neutralised.” – Ian Dunt “Levelling up is just a load of words, it doesn't really mean anything.” – Hannah Fearn www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Ros Taylor with Ian Dunt, Hannah Fearn and guest Ben Walker. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Simon Williams. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A Whitehall bust up is underway with Sue Gray and Simon Case clashing over the former’s appointment as Keir Starmer’s chief of staff. Is this a witch hunt – or are there just questions? Plus, conflict in Sudan means the UK has organised a second rapid evacuation in two years. Has this one gone smoother than the last? And with the high profile departures of cable anchors Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon across the pond – we discuss our favourite TV hosts.  “Opinion of Sue Gray is totally moveable. The thing about the modern Tory party is it is incapable of understanding people can be independent.” – Arthur Snell  “I would maybe start looking at LinkedIn quietly if I were Simon Case.” – Marie Le Conte  “The narrative that recasts history is that Sue Gray made Johnson resign. Sue Gray helped him to hold on to his job!” – Alex Andreou www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison with Alex Andreou, Marie Le Conte and Arthur Snell. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by Robin Leeburn . OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

More details of Johnson’s chaotic reign have emerged in Anthony Seldon’s new book Johnson at 10. He might now be in the history books but have we truly heard the last of him? And can we track his scandals without giving him the attention he wants? Plus, send in the subs! Our panel discusses Dominic Raab’s obscure replacements. Comedian, actor and Twitter sensation Matt Green is this week’s guest.  “Johnson may be confined to the history book but Johnson-ism isn’t.” – Seth Thévoz “There is every possibility that Johnson may try and gather his troops behind him once more.” – Naomi Smith “If people saw what Johnson was like in private they might see the edge more, the nastiness more, and I think that’s what people need to see.” – Matt Green www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Jacob Jarvis with Naomi Smith, Seth Thévoz and guest Matt Green. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Producers: Chris Jone and Alex Rees. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

That’s a Raab! Karate guru Dom has lost several Cabinet jobs after an investigation into bullying allegations. What fallout can we expect? Plus, the Home Office has tried to clean up its act and says it will now refer to asylum seekers as “customers”. How compassionate. And another local councillor drops the ball, after replying to an email in Welsh in German. Why can so many Brits not speak a second language? Plus, our special guest this week is Geri Scott, political reporter at The Times.  “He will never believe anything he did was wrong, he’s stepping down for the good of his party only.” – Hannah Fearn “There was a shocking lack of contrition in the letter.” – Yasmeen Serhan  “It’s hard to imagine that you’re going to have the best and brightest line up for a job in government if the expectation is that they’re going to be treated in a poor way” – Yasmeen Serhan “It just feels like a zombie government that can’t get anything done.” – Geri Scott www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Alex Andreou with Hannah Fearn and Yasmeen Serhan. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Chris Jones. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rishi Sunak promised an end to sleaze after the dark days of Johnson. But has his faux competency made us take our eyes off the ball? Plus, it’s not just lorries stuck in Calais. Our panel discusses the impact Brexit has had on the music industry and why it’s now so tough to get a gig in Great Britain. “The first rule when you’re talking about trust is don’t keep banging on about trust.” - Ros Taylor “Sunak just simply thinks that his wife’s financial affairs are separate from his own – but that’s not a sustainable position.” - Ros Taylor “How do any of these MPs manage to evade the same level of scrutiny afforded to a local community councillor?” - Naomi Smith www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnowPresented by Jacob Jarvis with Marie Le Conte, Naomi Smith and Ros Taylor. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Producers: Chris Jones and Alex Rees. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices