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Hosted by Connor Lovely and EV3 Ventures | Built by Proof of Coverage
Hosted by Connor Lovely and EV3 Ventures | Built by Proof of Coverage
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Feb 26, 2024 • 50min
Matt Katz (CEO of Caldera) and Neel Somani (CEO of Eclipse)
Caldera and Eclipse CEOs discuss no-code web3 infrastructure, Solana VM, building layer-2 blockchains in hours, customizability, chain interoperability, economics, DePIN use case, and selling founders. Exploring Ethereum L1 challenges, EVM-based L2 solutions, ZK proofs, and proof-based mechanisms for interacting with blockchain networks.

Feb 12, 2024 • 53min
Jonathan Victor, Co-Founder of Ansa Research, former Ecosystem Lead at Protocol Labs
Mahesh and Connor are joined by Jonathan Victor. Jonathan formerly worked on Filecoin at Protocol Labs, and left to found Ansa Research, a research firm focused on distributed infrastructure covering digital networks that aim to rebuild how internet infrastructure operates.
Jonathan talks about how his Palantir background influenced his time at Protocol Labs, why content addressing is a critical component to the future of the web, what the long-term Filecoin roadmap looks like, the protocol’s recent investments into retrieval, where Filecoin and other storage protocols fit into the broader ecosystem of enterprise storage, and clears up Filecoin’s revenue model.
0:00 Cold Brew Open
0:40 How Jon’s background at Palantir led him to Filecoin
4:28 Jon’s Decentralized Infrastructure Theses
9:42 How the Various Storage Solutions May Work Together in the Future
13:33 Filecoin’s Long-term Roadmap
20:03 Filecoin and Retrieval
24:55 Storage as a Commodity or a Differentiated Offering
29:30 Why Location Matters in Storage
34:04 IPFS and Filecoin’s Value Prop
39:33 How Filecoin Cultivated it’s robust developer ecosystem
43:42 Filecoin’s Revenue Model and Transparency
50:47 Where to find Jon’s Work
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Jan 29, 2024 • 58min
Ryan Selkis, Founder and CEO of Messari
Sami, Connor and Mahesh are joined by Ryan Selkis, Founder and CEO of Messari. Messari provides market intelligence that drives high-conviction participation in the crypto economy.
Ryan discusses his thoughts on the current state of crypto regulation, its implications on the 2024 US Presidential election, where he hopes Vivek Ramaswamy lands next, the 3 areas of DePIN that excite him most, and if it has a hat (spoiler: it does).
0:00 Is this the cold open?
0:47 Does it have a hat?
2:26 What did the term “Web3” do to Selkis?
5:47 State of crypto & the US Presidential Race
16:03 Vivek Ramaswamy’s next step
21:01 Trump’s stance on crypto
27:00 How well do US regulators understand DePIN?
37:00 The sectors of DePIN Selkis is most interested in
44:29 How to be a cockroach
50:06 Lightning round
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Jan 11, 2024 • 41min
Nick Emmons, CEO & Co-Founder of Upshot
Sami and Mahesh are joined by Nick Emmons, CEO & Co-Founder of Upshot. Upshot is a decentralized AI network optimized for DeFi applications. The network incentivizes participants to contribute their expertise, which can include machine learning models, data, and other forms of knowledge, cultivating a cooperative ecosystem where contributors collectively strive towards achieving shared AI objectives.
Nick shares his insights on the regulatory landscape for AI, discussing the competitive edge that decentralized AI could have over traditional centralized AI systems. He also speaks about the evolution of Upshot into a platform that leverages the collective intelligence of its participants to create and improve DeFi applications. The conversation also touches on the critical role of zero-knowledge proofs for integrating AI with blockchains. Lastly, Nick highlights various use cases for Upshot, showcasing its potential to transform the DeFi space.
00:00 - Hair Routines
1:04 - Crypto and AI Regulation
2:47 - The Rapid Rate of AI Innovation
5:35 - Entering an Era of Hyperfinancilization
8:20 - Competing with OpenAI’s GPT Store
9:50 - Upshot’s Origin
15:26 - How Price Predicting Models on Upshot Work
19:30 - How Models on Upshot Work Together
20:40 - Upshot Machine Intelligence Network Architecture
25:05 - Upshot + zkML
29:05 - opML vs zkML
31:30 - Upshot Use Cases
34:40 - How the Community can Help
37:55 - Rapid Fire Questions
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Dec 18, 2023 • 49min
Jules Urbach (CEO) and Trevor Harries-Jones (Director) of The Render Network
Jules Urbach (CEO) and Trevor Harries-Jones (Director) discuss the Render Network's decentralized GPU rendering platform and its impact on artists. They explore use cases, advantages over other GPU networks, integration with AI, and the future of immersive entertainment.

Dec 11, 2023 • 55min
Ariel Seidman, Co-Founder and CEO of Hivemapper
Connor, Sami, and Mahesh are joined by Ariel Seidman, CEO / Co-Founder of Hivemapper. Hivemapper is building the world’s freshest map with AI and a network of drivers using dashcams. Ariel talks about why Hivemapper uses purpose-built hardware, the problems with centralized mapping today, how they designed the HONEY token design to dynamically match Hivemapper’s progress towards its long-term goals, and the weirdest things the team has seen on driver images.
0:00 - Cold Open - A TradWi Conspiracy Afoot?
0:42 - Hello Ariel!
3:00 Privacy is one of Hivemapper biggest concerns
5:38 How Ariel explains DePIN
7:30 How Ariel’s background at Yahoo and Gigwalk informed the early Hivemapper days
11:47 The emerging use cases that only a fresh, high-quality map can serve
18:31 How has centralized mapping reacted to Hivemapper’s emergence?
20:24 What the Hivemapper protocol is designed to incentivize
25:05 How the HONEY token emissions are engineered to keep the network sustainable
30:16 Hivemapper’s first customers
34:05 Why Hivemapper uses dedicated hardware
41:52 How the Hivemapper Map AI acts as the brains of the network
47:31 Hivemapper’s product suite
50:50 Ariel’s advice for DePIN founders
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Nov 27, 2023 • 49min
Adam Jackson, Co-Founder and CEO of Braintrust
Connor and Mahesh sit down with Adam Jackson, Co-Founder and CEO of Braintrust. Braintrust is the first user-owned talent network, matching enterprise employers to vetted knowledge workers. Today, Braintrust boasts over 3,000 employers hiring from a pool of 500,000 freelancers who have collectively earned over $150M on the Braintrust network.
Adam discusses Braintrust’s origins from a DePIN-focused hedge fund, what DePIN means to him, the reality of the US crypto regulatory environment, and what levers Braintrust can pull to drive growth.
0:00 - 0:20 Hello Adam!
0:20 - 5:10 Why Remote Works Makes Sense
5:10 - 10:44 Adam’s Background and How Braintrust Came to Be
10:45 - 12:38 What does DePIN mean to Adam?
13:14 - 18:24 Braintrust’s Enterprise-Grade User Experience
18:24 - 21:53 The Upside and Downside of Decentralization
21:53 - 23:07 The Vetting Process for Knowledge Workers
23:07 - 28:15 Braintrust Revenue and Governance Model
28:15 - 32:48 Braintrust’s Growth Levers
32:48 - 34:57 How Braintrust Can Pull Levers to Balance Marketplace Demand and Supply
34:57 - 37:40 Braintrust’s Clients Don’t Care about the Token
37:40 - 39:02 Crypto’s Regulatory Environment
39:02 - 44:40 Has Technology Really Improved Productivity?
44:40 - 48:30 Is Talent Happier Using Braintrust?
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Nov 13, 2023 • 39min
Sam Williams, Founder and CEO of Arweave
Sami and Mahesh are joined by Sam Williams, Co-Founder and CEO of Arweave. Arweave is a permanent and decentralized storage network, designed for the preservation of humanity’s most important data.
Sam discussed what inspired him to work on permanent storage, why he doesn’t view Filecoin as a major competitor, how Arweave is designed to store the highest-value data, and some of the exciting projects currently using Arweave.
0:00 - 0:59 DePIN Date Night
1:00 - 7:44 How recent global events inspired Arweave
7:45 - 12:09 Why Sam doesn't view Filecoin as a behemoth
12:10 - 15:04Arweave's competition
15:05 - 19:13 Bitcoin as a storage layer
19:14 - 25:09 Arweave's PMF
25:10 - 29:27 Applications currently using Arweave
29:28 - 34:52 How Sam thinks the industry can drive user behavior
34:53 - 38:30 What Sam's most excited about in the next few years
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Oct 30, 2023 • 51min
Jake Steeves, Founder of Bittensor
Sami, Connor, and Mahesh are joined by Jake Steeves, Founder of Opentensor / Bittensor. Bittensor is a decentralized protocol for the aggregation and coordination of machine intelligence, which can be applied to many use cases such as AI training and decentralized storage and compute.
Jake explains why open ownership models mark the death of the YC business model, his views on AI regulation, the most interesting use cases he’s seen for Bittensor machine intelligence so far, and why he thinks we’re entering a golden era of technological innovation and human progress.
00:00 The cold open that almost wasn’t
1:33 $TAO community as the NBA Youngboy fans of crypto
7:15 The techno-optimists/effective accelerationists vs. the decels/regulators and how Bittensor strikes a balance
8:51 Bitcoin is apolitical
9:12 The meaning behind Jake’s screen name “Const_reborn”
10:25 Why the YC business model is dead
15:25 Should AI be regulated?
18:43 How the Bittensor community regulates itself
21:01 Bittensor’s vision and purpose, inspiration from Bitcoin
23:14 Bittensor subnets / use cases
25:32 Will regulation of centralized AI development be a boon for decentralized AI?
27:20 Can open-source AI compete with closed-source?
34:30 How Bittensor uses incentives and monetization to compete with closed-source AI
35:13 Bittensor Revolution upgrade and its subnet architecture
40:40 Example Bittensor subnets
44:30 Bittensor is a DePIN
49:07 What’s your most non-consensus take?
50:52 Outro
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Oct 16, 2023 • 37min
John Dogru, Founder and CEO of the 3DOS Network
Connor and Mahesh are joined by John Dogru, Founder of 3DOS, the world’s largest decentralized peer-to-peer manufacturing network. John walks us through the current state of the 3D printing industry, how 3DOS’ brings a new meaning to just-in-time manufacturing, dramatically improves rates of materials waste, and empowers a new generation of creators.
00:00 Intro
1:10 Are we aliens?
3:10 3DOS founding story
4:30 Where’s the 3D printing industry at today?
8:20 Not drop-shipping, but drop-manufacturing?
13:05 End-to-end use case
17:35 How starting with higher ed strengthened 3DOS from the ground up
20:00 How 3DOS fulfils the last mile
23:00 How 3DOS helps load balance capacity across devices
26:20 Impact of democratizing manufacturing
29:40 The long-term vision for 3DOS
32:30 How 3DOS is using crypto principles to drive network activity and empower creators
27:05 How 3DOS is optimizing its incentive structure for quality
Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.