
The Other Others
Through the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab (NIKERI, Deakin University), we have unlikely, cheeky and kind of inappropriate yarns with surprising people about how an Indigenous complexity science lens can be applied to solving the world's most wicked problems. Intro theme by Regurgitator.
Latest episodes

Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 2min
Duplex Interruptus
(Double Interrupted) So my friend Tammi Jonas from the Food Sovereignty mob has helped me start reading again and to work on my interrupting problem. I did okay here, and managed to record a whole episode without stepping all over another person's tongue. We talk about peasants and Naomi Klein's book Doppelganger, because she might be coming on our crappy little podcast soon.

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Oct 9, 2023 • 1h 2min
Solastalgius Interruptus
Kisani Upward, researching Indigenous responses to natural disasters, discusses solastalgia and the importance of communication in understanding it. They also touch on preparing for bushfires, conducting a photo voice study, and focusing on community strength. Additionally, they explore their journey of learning, the concept of solastalgia in relation to landscape transformation, and the challenges of centering indigenous voices in climate change research.

Oct 5, 2023 • 1h 31min
Whale Oil vs Snake Oil
Guy Ritani (Permaqueer activist, Maori science communicator) asks me, "Any whale stuff coming up for you lately?" Hell yes! A hard yarn about radioactive whales, skepticism vs cultural knowledge, what is real vs what is true, trauma, making sense, and discerning between spirit and bullshit. There are conflicts, maintaining both identity and intellectual rigor in this howling red-faced modernity. No apologies for sound quality - don't be such a spoiled techno-brat! Suck it up and pretend it's the 70's again....

Sep 21, 2023 • 58min
Blaxit
There is more to the disinformation being deployed in Australia's referendum (for an Indigenous voice to parliament) than meets the eye. This episode is something of a diatribe. I'm tying together all our true stories of resistance and putting a firewall between them and the fantasies of white supremacists and disgruntled settlers who are co-opting the language and Lore of our ongoing occupation and struggle, to secure our support in extreme libertarian radicalisation and stochastic terrorism in Australia and abroad. These things have been under-reported, and you can't imagine how extensive and pervasive these networks of chaos are.

Sep 11, 2023 • 1h 5min
Racial Hygeine and the Jab
Tammi Jonas from the Australian Food Sovereignty Network despairs with me a while as we try to figure out why half our friends went crazy over Covid lockdowns and are now marching with white supremacists, promoting soft-eugenics and even calling vaccinated Aboriginal people 'pharma-colonists' who are pursuing genocidal policies against 'heterodox' settlers.
AFSA: https://www.pozible.com/project/eating-democracy/comments

Sep 2, 2023 • 1h 13min
Abolish Schools!
Thought experiment as data collection for a research project conducted by expert on digital writing and AI, Lucinda McKnight. I said I'd only give her my qualitative data in yarn form, on a podcast, and she was keen. It was a good idea, but as usual I ruin everything for everybody with my relentless blakpilling...

Aug 28, 2023 • 1h 48min
May the Forks be with You
The sacred feminine in landscapes rendered profane by moral prudery - we walk these storied paths fearlessly with Manchan Magan in a mythical relation across hemispheres, a vibrant embassy between Ireland and Aboriginal Australia, grieving the loss of Sinead together and celebrating what is emergent in our deadly relation. https://www.instagram.com/p/CvvD9r7tLxn/

Aug 14, 2023 • 1h 25min
Fella Sees Fallacies
Big mixed up yarn with Steph Beck and Ben Knight, Indigenous views on relational economics and logical fallacies, and where the two meet in cults and guru-generated content. How can we tell the difference between good faith and bad faith claims, and who has the right to be heard in this world? (Spoiler: we arrive at the idea that maybe bad faith discourse comes from people who have figured out they can skip meaning-making and go straight to change-making/decision-making by extracting authority from nothing, using logical fallacies as discursive technologies of despair...)
Episode art by David McMillan

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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 11min
Life in the Blade
In this episode, Pete McCurley, a Gumbayngiir wood carver and reluctant blacksmith, discusses topics such as coping with grief through art, the impact of a devastating storm on cultural food plants, personal development and leaving a lasting impact, challenges in forging a keel bolt, the importance of community support, and transformation of wrong stories into cautionary tales.

Aug 3, 2023 • 1h 20min
Nanna's House (in space)
Groovy de-colonial yarn with exo-ethno-botanist Cobi Calyx. Everything from Terra Nullius to Matt Damon.