
Autistic Licence
Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
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Dec 11, 2024 • 39min
S2 E11: Life, Times & Sitting Together
Some broad themes in this episode are family lineage, reading and the accessibility of group settings for neurodivergent people.
Leo's great uncle has died at the grand age of 102. Siana has taken another week's deep dive into her ancestry. Leo has been looking into two Buddhist Sanghas and Siana is training in Circle facilitation.
Thank you as ever for listening and for all your support. We'd love to hear your comments and reflections at autisticlicence@gmail.com 🧡 💛
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Nov 28, 2024 • 59min
S2 E10: Where On Earth Did I Come From?!
Siana has recently become interested in tracing her ancestry.
We reflect on aspects of this from an autistic perspective, such as pattern seeking as a way into a deeper search for belonging and connection.
We consider spirituality in a broader sense, touching on personality development and synchronicity.
We open up many more questions than we answer (actually we don't conclude very much at all) but that's probably very apt given the subject matter 😉
Oh, and Leo has been to the dental hygienist, increased ADHD meds and purchased a very beautiful escape key for his computer keyboard 🧡 And we just celebrated our one year pod-iversary.
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Leo's Mount Fuji escape key
A discussion on HSP vs autism
Synchronicity: A Carl Jung Perspective
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Nov 13, 2024 • 50min
S2 E9: Talking About Talking (STFU)
In this episode we begin with Halloween as a springboard into superstition and then, somehow, onto Leo's ADHD meds update.
Then we move into an exploration around RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria) and ADA (autistic demand avoidance).
We focus on these two strands within our own relationship dynamic. Leo hopes this might be of use and resonate with people out there, which in turn activates an RSD moment for Siana.
Despite the themes discussed in this episode we really really do want to hear your thoughts, reflections and ideas!!
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It's Not A Bloody Trend by Kat Brown (book)
Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria/RSD (article)
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Nov 3, 2024 • 38min
S2 E8: Balancing Life & Building Community
This episode traverses the theme of building autistic community.
We recognise the dearth of opportunities for autistic people to connect in real time. We share our ideas around how we might like to play a small part in facilitating aspects of this, for example by having guests on the podcast and running groups. We discuss various elements of this from practical, professional and ethical points of view.
We recognise that perhaps the paucity of "out" autistic therapists combined with the lack of existing resources possibly means that in the beginning there will inevitably be "boundary" issues to confront and navigate. More neuroqueering of the norms, we wonder?
As ever, we would love love love to hear your thoughts, ideas and feedback 💛🧡
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Oct 27, 2024 • 56min
S2 E7: Pattern Seeking & The Quest For Balance
This episode was recorded on the day when we had planned a pilot "Odd One In" group meeting.
We cancelled the group with 24 hours notice because only two people had signed up at that point.
We reflect on our relationships to change, flexibility, choice and managing our own ways of being alongside considering others with a variety of needs.
Siana rants about the logistics of the booking system for her Zumba class ... and somehow Leo manages to segway from this into his history of superstition and OCD.
We compare and contrast these experiences with the common autistic activities of sorting and ordering. We then explore the value of certain rituals and ways of doing things from an aesthetic, practical or symbolic point of view.
As ever, we would love to hear your thoughts and comments - autisticlicence@gmail.com
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Autisticality
A Guide To Autistic Experience (book)
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Oct 19, 2024 • 49min
S2 E6: I Don't Feel Like Coming Up With A Title
In this episode we discuss the concept of Autistic Demand Avoidance.
Siana differentiates ADA from PDA and speaks from her own experience of how it shows up across a range of areas in her life.
We also check in on Leo's ADHD clinical diagnosis journey. We notice how classic traits of hyperactivity and inattention feature in our lives.
We then discuss some aspects of privilege and class related to lifestyle and "choice". We also introduce a few considerations which seem pertinent to therapeutic relationships.
We do, of course, distract and delight in words and meanings along the way ... which quite possibly says as much about what we are talking about as what we actually say 💛🧡
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Oct 12, 2024 • 38min
S2 E5: Ebb & Flow
This episode is a fairly run-of-the-mill chit chat from a random Thursday in the middle of September.
Themes include doing things for the first time, seasonal rhythms, breathing, special interests and the significance of "perspective".
We showcase Leo's new drone and Siana would like to apologise for "droning" on a bit about her cough.
Bonus SPIN-ny energy at the end 🧡💛
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Disability Empowerment Now podcast (DEN)
One of Leo's drone videos
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Oct 2, 2024 • 50min
S2 E2: To Medicate Or Not To Medicate (An Auditory Chronicle)
Leo is currently on the NHS pathway towards trying out ADHD medication. We discuss his experience of the assessment process so far. We then explore Siana's experience as a parent navigating the system.
We speak about common obstacles and concerns within the process. We also reflect on whether medication might have changed outcomes for each of us in education and / or the workplace.
We attempt to navigate elements of privilege sensitively and acknowledge that this is an initial conversation which was hope will spark further discussion and reflection.
We would love to hear your thoughts! 🧡💛
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Oct 2, 2024 • 23min
S2 E4: An Existential Experience
This episode is an excerpt from a follow up conversation we had regarding the gap between season 1 and 2.
We reflect on a health situation Leo had to navigate over the summer. We discuss aspects of communication within the health care system and also between us. We also notice our tendency as autistic people to deal with what is in front of us and then to appear to “forget” about it until there is an unconscious reminder.
The good news is that Leo is fine and recovered. Thank-you for listening and for all your support.
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Oct 2, 2024 • 40min
S2 E3: It’s All A Bit Meta
This episode contains our reflections around beginning a new podcast season.
We discuss the gap in recording and wonder about some aspects of this. We explore the concepts of autistic burnout and energy cycles. We also speak about inherent neurodivergence as opposed to the signs of neurodivergent distress or trauma.
It will be no surprise that we digress lots. We conclude that we will continue to record for another “season”.
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