
The KMO Show
Join veteran podcaster, interviewer, and artist, KMO, as he and his guests explore how we know what we know and how we can use that knowledge to address societal challenges and create a more prosperous and equitable world.. The KMO Show features conversations with interdisciplinary thinkers and innovators on topics like artificial intelligence, evolutionary psychology, social dynamics, and more.
Latest episodes

Jul 6, 2025 • 1h 2min
033 - Peter Clarke - Network State vs Dark Enlightenment
SummaryIn this conversation, Peter Clarke and KMO explore the concepts of network states and dark enlightenment, discussing their compatibility and implications for governance in a post-liberal world. They delve into the competition for high agency individuals between these systems, the potential role of AI in future governance, and the evolution of societal structures in a world where traditional jobs may become obsolete. The discussion also touches on the importance of status games and the need for new ideas to navigate the rapidly changing landscape of technology and governance.TakeawaysThe idea of a cybernetic harmony between machines and nature.Post-liberal governance is characterized by the emergence of network states and dark enlightenment.Network states are communities formed online with the goal of becoming recognized as legitimate states.High agency individuals are attracted to network states due to their flexibility and potential for innovation.AI is expected to play a significant role in future governance structures.The concept of status games may evolve in a jobless future, providing new forms of social validation.The viability of network states is questioned in terms of their ability to defend against traditional state powers.A one world government may emerge as a necessity to manage global risks associated with advanced technologies.The ultra wealthy may leverage network states to escape taxes and create exclusive communities.New ideas and frameworks are needed to adapt to the rapid changes brought by technology.

May 27, 2025 • 55min
032 - Librarian of Celaeno
KMO and the Librarian of Celaeno discuss various topics including the challenges of building an audience on Substack, the impact of AI on education and writing, the decline of reading among young people, cultural shifts in literature, the role of religion in society,and the intersection of race and ideology. They explore the complexities of racism in America and the enduring nature of cultural patterns, concluding with thoughts on the role of technology in shaping society.

May 11, 2025 • 1h 59min
031 - The Absurdity Sim with Brent
KMO is joined by Brent, author of The Absurdity Sim Substack, for a wide-ranging discussion that opens with the simulation hypothesis. They explore the idea that human consciousness may be either central to reality or merely an unintended byproduct of a system running for someone else's amusement—perhaps a cosmic reality show. This sets the tone for a conversation that blends philosophy, cultural critique, and lived experience with wry humor.From there, the conversation shifts to the decline of attention spans and the rise of short-form dopamine-driven platforms like TikTok, contrasted with the promise of Substack as a space for thoughtful writing and dialogue. Brent reflects on his own motivations for launching a Substack: channeling his inner curmudgeon in the spirit of H.L. Mencken and Mark Twain, offering sardonic but grounded takes on American decline.KMO shares his experience using Substack as an audio-first medium and laments the collapse of the internet’s early promise—recalling a time when text-heavy forums fostered substantial, idea-driven exchanges rather than engagement-optimized performance. Together, they reflect on the role that algorithmic social media plays in distorting public discourse, and how platforms increasingly populate your feed with AI-generated personalities disguised as human users.The conversation then pivots to Brent’s real-world experience with government construction contracting and the disruptive power of AI. He describes how ChatGPT already accelerates tasks like analyzing construction plans, generating submittal registries, and cross-referencing thousands of pages of specs. Brent anticipates a near-future where human project managers and administrators are largely replaced by AI, even in complex fields like federal infrastructure work. KMO builds on this, discussing how AI will reshape military logistics and global power, especially as the U.S. and China race to control both space and artificial general intelligence.By the end of the hour, the discussion has covered the erosion of cultural cohesion, the post-2008 shift toward institutional impunity, and the psychological toll of a society that flatters rather than elevates. Brent introduces the idea that intelligence distribution—not race, not ideology—helps explain the collapse of discourse and taste in the age of mass media. The two agree that the early internet, for all its flaws, was simply smarter and more sincere—and that today's platforms are built for distraction, not understanding.

Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 33min
030 - Synthesized Sunsets
In this episode, host KMO speaks with Kevin, co-host of the podcast and Substack publication "Synthesize Sunsets," which explores speculative fiction and the evolution of popular culture in the age of AI and algorithms.Key Discussion Points:17776 by John Boyce: Kevin discusses this multimedia science fiction narrative and how it represents a missed opportunity for innovation in digital storytelling formats.Decades losing their distinctiveness: The conversation explores how time periods had unique visual and cultural identities in the 20th century, while the 21st century has seen a flattening of aesthetic differences between decades.Publishing industry consolidation: They discuss how the consolidation of publishing houses has led to less diversity in science fiction and contributed to the growth of romance-focused fantasy at the expense of traditional science fiction.Science fiction authors and works: The pair share their perspectives on influential authors including Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun," Ursula K. Le Guin, N.K. Jemisin's "Broken Earth" trilogy, Ted Chiang, Iain M. Banks, and Cixin Liu.Christianity and literature: How religious literacy impacts readers' ability to engage with certain works, particularly Gene Wolfe's writing which contains subtle Christian themes.Political perspectives in fiction: The challenges of creating politically engaged fiction that doesn't feel didactic, using examples like Banks' "Culture" series and contemporary works.Media and intellectual diversity: Kevin expresses hope for greater intellectual diversity in media and publishing, noting that Chinese sci-fi author Cixin Liu represents a genuinely different cultural perspective.

Feb 24, 2025 • 49min
029 - Sci-Fi Aristocracy with Copernican
KMO talks science fiction with Copernican.

Feb 24, 2025 • 49min
029 - Sci-Fi Aristocracy with Copernican
KMO talks science fiction, culture and politics with Copernican.

Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 20min
028 - Science Fiction and Philosophy with David Roman
David Roman, a historian and writer with a focus on China and science fiction, shares his insights from 27 years of visiting China. He discusses the rapid technological advancements in AI and robotics, contrasting them with Western developments. The conversation dives into the landscape of science fiction today, addressing cultural representation and the evolution of generational ship narratives. Roman also critiques the challenges content creators face in the age of social media censorship and explores the connections between philosophy and speculative fiction.

Dec 16, 2024 • 51min
027 - Exploring the Draka with the Feral Historian
KMO speaks with The Feral Historian about S.M. Stirling's controversial Draka series of alternate history novels. While only 25 minutes of their hour-plus conversation survived due to technical difficulties, they explore how these books examine the creation of sustainable systems of oppression and the psychological dynamics of slave societies. The discussion touches on how the Draka maintain control through careful management of violence, their pragmatic approach to social organization, and their complex relationship with their enslaved population. KMO follows the conversation with an exploration of how the Draka represent an example of 'komerex' patterns - dynamic, growing systems that prioritize effectiveness over process - even while pursuing morally repugnant ends. He shares insights from his conversations with AI systems about analyzing complex social structures without retreating into institutional safety theater. Available free on Audible, the Draka novels offer a disturbing but thought-provoking examination of how societies systematize oppression.You can find the Immutable Mobiles Substack blog here: https://chatswithclaude.substack.com/p/s-m-stirlings-draka-novels

Dec 8, 2024 • 1h 13min
026 - Securing the Future with Kenneth E. Harrell
KMO speaks with science fiction author and cybersecurity professional Kenneth E. Harrell about artificial intelligence, the writing process, and technological change. They explore how AI tools can enhance rather than replace human creativity, with Harrell describing his use of custom GPTs and AI assistants to improve his writing while maintaining his unique voice. The conversation delves into the challenges of emerging AI technologies, including potential security threats and the limitations of current solutions like voice synthesis. They also discuss their favorite science fiction works and influences, from Frank Herbert's Dune to contemporary authors, while examining how science fiction helps us understand accelerating technological and social change. The wide-ranging discussion touches on themes of spirituality, techno-utopianism, and the human relationship with advancing technology.

Dec 1, 2024 • 53min
025 - Trump's Victory and the Fourth Turning with Kevin Lynn
In this episode of The KMO Show, host KMO speaks with Kevin Lynn, Executive Director of the Institute for Sound Public Policy, about the 2024 election results and broader historical patterns. The conversation begins with an AI-generated introduction acknowledging their shared history in the Peak Oil community and mutual interest in Rudyard Lynch's analysis of historical crisis patterns.Kevin brings unique perspective from his varied career - from Army officer to accounting executive to political organizer. The discussion explores several key themes:The parallels between current events and historical periods like the Thirty Years WarThe emergence of new political coalitions crossing traditional party linesEconomic and demographic factors driving political realignmentThe role of immigration policy in social cohesionGenerational theory and the Fourth Turning frameworkThe transformation of various political figures from progressive Democrats to Trump supportersDrawing on shared connections with figures like John Michael Greer, James Howard Kunstler, and Steve Lamb, the conversation examines how many former Democrats have rejected establishment politics in favor of populist movements. The discussion provides historical context for understanding recent political realignments while considering potential futures.