

It Could Happen Here
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 26min
Anti-Vax America: Could It Happen Here?
David Gorski, a prominent vaccine scientist, discusses the alarming rise of anti-vaccination beliefs in the U.S. He highlights the systematic dismantling of vaccine policies, warning about the potential resurgence of diseases like polio and measles. Gorski dives into the sociopolitical factors driving vaccine hesitancy and its dire implications for public health. He stresses the urgent need for education and awareness to combat misinformation and the risks posed by declining vaccination rates, particularly in conservative areas.

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Jun 19, 2025 • 41min
Anti-Vax America: Soft Eugenics
David Gorski, Professor of Surgery and Oncology at Wayne State University, dives into the unsettling connections between anti-vaccination rhetoric and eugenics. He discusses how historical ideologies shape modern vaccine hesitancy, revealing the darker side of the so-called medical freedom movement. Gorski explores the implications for marginalized communities, critiques the controversial notions of herd immunity, and highlights the ethical dilemmas surrounding health policies linked to autism. The conversation provides a thought-provoking lens on personal choice versus public health responsibilities.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 34min
Anti-Vax America: God’s Will
In this discussion, Garrison Davis, a political and extremism writer from Cool Zone Media, dives into the troubling intersection of anti-vax beliefs and conservative Christianity. He shares the poignant story of a father's tragic loss within a West Texas Mennonite community, where faith dramatically shapes views on vaccination. The conversation explores how influential religious leaders like Kenneth Copeland have fueled these beliefs, intertwining faith with public health crises and the larger societal impact of vaccine hesitancy in various evangelical circles.

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Jun 17, 2025 • 32min
Anti-Vax America: Anti-Vax Genealogy
In this discussion, Dr. Peter Hotez, a pediatrician and molecular virology expert at Baylor College of Medicine, delves into the unsettling resurgence of vaccine hesitancy in America. He traces the historical roots of the anti-vaccination movement, connecting it to political ideologies and misinformation. The conversation also highlights the legacy of medical distrust, especially in Black communities, and the impact of unethical experiments like the Tuskegee Study. Hotez emphasizes the urgent need to combat myths linking vaccines to autism and address declining vaccination rates.

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Jun 16, 2025 • 34min
Anti-Vax America: Viral Texas
Catherine Wells, Director for Lubbock Public Health, shares critical insights on a devastating measles outbreak in Texas that has resulted in multiple fatalities. She discusses how vaccine hesitancy, fueled by misinformation, has led to a resurgence of this preventable disease. Wells highlights challenges faced by health officials in combating misinformation and the mixed community reactions to vaccination efforts. The podcast delves into the tragic consequences of this outbreak and the urgent need for public health initiatives to address declining vaccination rates.

Jun 15, 2025 • 28min
CZM Book Club: After the Dance by Leo Tolstoy
Delve into the complexities of love and societal expectations in Tolstoy's 'After the Dance.' Explore the contrasting themes of personal desire against the backdrop of societal norms, highlighted by a mesmerizing ball. The deep dive into Tolstoy's anarchist ideals showcases his moral reflections, while poignant dance scenes reveal generational connections and fleeting joys. The stark transition from celebration to brutality underscores the profound emotional impact, evoking both shame and introspection on societal issues. A rich tapestry of human experience awaits!

Jun 14, 2025 • 3h 28min
It Could Happen Here Weekly 186
Charles McBride, a documentary filmmaker and humanitarian activist recently returned from Palestine, dives deep into the alarming situation in the West Bank. He shares insights on the escalating military operations and the UNRWA’s role in aiding refugees. The conversation also highlights the desperate humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where social media is used to bring attention to the plight of its people. McBride critiques alternative aid efforts, emphasizing the failures in addressing urgent needs amidst rising political tensions. A must-listen for those interested in global humanitarian issues!

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Jun 13, 2025 • 47min
Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #20
Dive into the tense dynamics of state violence in Los Angeles, where protests erupt in response to ICE raids. Witness the political shift as California cities make progressive moves against detention contracts. Explore the implications of the new travel ban and its impact on international relations, particularly with China. The podcast also highlights the chaotic healthcare landscape and political battles affecting marginalized communities. Plus, tensions rise between two powerful figures, revealing the complexities of their public personas.

Jun 12, 2025 • 35min
On The Ground In LA
In this episode, journalist James Stout shares gripping firsthand experiences from the protests in downtown Los Angeles, shedding light on the intense clashes between demonstrators and police. He discusses the heavy-handed tactics employed by law enforcement, including tear gas and crowd control measures, creating an atmosphere of fear and anger among protesters. Stout highlights the resilience of the community, emphasizing solidarity and mutual aid amidst chaos, while also critiquing the guidelines for police action during such events.

Jun 11, 2025 • 47min
Migrant Detention in Libya
In this discussion, Mick, an expert on human rights and migration issues, sheds light on the shocking conditions migrants face in Libya's detention camps. He reveals the violent realities and systemic exploitation that these individuals endure, often funded by the EU. Topics include the complicity of international actors, the despairing narratives of women seeking safety, and the urgent need for reform. The conversation also emphasizes the silent complicity of the European Union and the necessity of action to combat these humanitarian crises.