

Retire With Style
Wade Pfau & Alex Murguia
The purpose of Retire With Style is to help you discover the retirement income plan that is right for you. The first step is to discover your retirement income personality. Your hosts Wade Pfau, PhD, CFA, RICP and Alex Murguia, PhD walk you through creating and implementing a retirement plan that will help you reach your goals, and that you’ll be able to stick with.Start by going to risaprofile.com/style and sign up to take the industry’s first financial personality tool for retirement planning.
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Dec 17, 2024 • 38min
Episode 157: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A Part 1
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia tackle a variety of questions related to retirement planning, including the necessity of international stocks, the implications of Roth conversions, and strategies for purchasing property with retirement funds. They also discuss potential reforms in Medicare and Social Security, and the importance of understanding funded ratios in retirement planning. The conversation emphasizes the need for diversification in investment portfolios and the significance of reliable income in retirement. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
International stocks are not required but can provide diversification.
Roth conversions can be beneficial even if tax rates decrease.
Purchasing property with retirement funds requires careful tax planning.
Future reforms in Medicare and Social Security remain uncertain.
Understanding your funded ratio is crucial for retirement planning.
Diversification is key in investment strategies for retirement.
Reliable income sources should be prioritized in retirement planning.
Tax-efficient distributions can help minimize tax burdens.
Investing in international stocks can buffer against market volatility.
It's important to assess personal comfort levels with investment locations.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
01:34 International Stocks: Necessity or Choice?
08:11 Roth IRA Conversions: Timing and Strategy
13:05 Tax-Efficient Distributions for Property Purchases
16:10 Medicare and Social Security: Future Reforms
21:45 Funded Ratios and Retirement Planning
28:14 Assessing Retirement Readiness
31:52 Income Protection and Asset Allocation
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Dec 10, 2024 • 43min
Episode 156: Navigating The New Retirement Landscape
In this episode, Wade and Alex welcome Jason Fichtner to discuss the evolving landscape of retirement income. They explore consumer perspectives on retirement, the importance of protected income strategies, and the generational shifts affecting retirement planning. Their conversation also delves into the decline of traditional pensions, insights on Social Security and Medicare, and the need for better communication regarding claiming strategies. The conversation also focuses on the evolving landscape of retirement income, focusing on the importance of annuities and social security as protected income sources. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
The concept of retirement is evolving beyond traditional norms.
Protected income is essential for financial security in retirement.
Generational shifts are leading to different retirement challenges.
The decline of pensions necessitates new income solutions.
Social Security is not sufficient for most retirees' needs.
Effective communication about claiming benefits is crucial.
The retirement planning industry must adapt to changing demographics.
Education on retirement income strategies is vital for future generations. Delaying Social Security can enhance spousal benefits.
The traditional three-legged stool of retirement income is changing.
Innovative annuity options can help bridge income gaps in retirement.
Behavioral framing can influence retirement income expectations.
Protected income can increase retirees' spending confidence.
Barriers to annuitization need to be addressed for better adoption.
The retirement security industry has a significant role to play.
Research and common language are essential for effective communication.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Challenges
02:13 Consumer Perspectives on Retirement
05:01 The Importance of Protected Income
08:12 Generational Shifts in Retirement Planning
10:41 The Decline of Traditional Pensions
12:05 Social Security and Medicare Insights
15:20 Reframing Social Security Claiming Strategies
19:00 Understanding Annuities and Social Security
21:59 The Shift from Defined Benefit to Defined Contribution
24:55 Innovations in Retirement Income Solutions
28:58 The Future of Retirement Security
32:02 Research and Education in Retirement Planning
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Dec 3, 2024 • 49min
Episode 155: Navigating Roth Conversions: Key Strategies and Insights
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau delve into the complexities of Roth conversions, discussing strategies, constraints, and the importance of diversified accounts. They explore how to approach Roth conversions effectively, considering factors like income needs, tax implications, and the innovative concept of tax mapping to optimize retirement planning. They also delve into the complexities of tax planning, particularly focusing on the tax map concept, effective marginal tax rates, and the strategic importance of Roth conversions. Their discussion also touches on how various income sources, including Social Security and investment income, interact with tax brackets and surcharges, ultimately influencing retirement planning and legacy outcomes. The dialogue emphasizes the need for personalized strategies to optimize tax efficiency and legacy value, while also addressing the nuances of tax law changes and individual circumstances. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Roth conversions should be viewed as a hedging strategy.
It's important to frontload Roth conversions when possible.
Constraints like RMDs and taxable income affect conversion decisions.
Tax mapping can clarify how much to convert and when.
A conservative approach to conversions can mitigate risks.
The effectiveness of Roth conversions depends on future tax rates.
Planning should adapt as circumstances change over time.
Opening a Roth account early is beneficial for future flexibility. The tax map helps visualize how ordinary income affects tax rates.
Effective marginal tax rates can be higher than nominal rates due to Social Security taxation.
Roth conversions can be strategically beneficial to manage future tax liabilities.
Targeting specific effective marginal tax rates can optimize legacy outcomes.
Tax planning should consider both current and future income scenarios.
Low income years present unique opportunities for Roth conversions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions
02:11 Understanding Roth Conversion Strategies
10:18 Constraints in Roth Conversion Decisions
16:33 The Importance of Diversified Accounts
20:14 Exploring Tax Mapping Concepts
23:04 Understanding the Tax Map and Income Generation
27:03 Navigating Tax Brackets and Effective Marginal Rates
29:36 The Importance of Roth Conversions
31:15 Evaluating Tax Rate Targets for Optimal Legacy
35:48 Strategies for Roth Conversions and Tax Planning
41:28 Identifying Opportunities for Roth Conversions
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Nov 26, 2024 • 41min
Episode 154 The Financial Advisor's Guide to Roth Conversions Part 2
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau, along with guest Rob Cordeau, continue their conversation into the complexities of Roth conversions and their implications for tax efficiency in retirement planning. They discuss the nuances of paying taxes on conversions, the importance of understanding tax brackets, and the impact of the SECURE Act on intergenerational wealth transfer. The conversation emphasizes strategic planning to optimize tax outcomes for both current and future generations, highlighting the need for a dynamic approach to retirement income management. They highlight the value of having a diversified tax strategy to enhance financial flexibility in retirement. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Roth conversions can be beneficial if done at a lower tax rate.
Paying taxes from an IRA during a Roth conversion isn't always bad advice.
Tax brackets in retirement can vary significantly based on spending phases.
Intergenerational planning is crucial for optimizing tax liabilities for heirs.
The SECURE Act has changed the landscape for inherited IRAs, requiring careful planning.
Clients often go through different spending phases in retirement, affecting tax strategies.
Understanding the timing of tax payments can lead to better financial outcomes.
Overconfidence can lead to over-converting in Roth strategies.
Having a tax-free bucket in retirement offers significant advantages.
Understanding the pro-rata rule is crucial for backdoor Roth conversions.
Tax projections are vital for effective Roth conversion planning.
Flexibility in tax strategy can enhance retirement income management.
It's important to consider state tax implications when converting.
Engaging in Roth conversions can open doors for future financial flexibility.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions
08:35 Intergenerational Tax Planning
17:57 Hedging Strategies in Retirement Planning
24:03 Mistakes in Roth Conversions
30:01 Understanding Roth Conversion Nuances
Links
Click here to submit your question for a future RWS Live Q&A: retirementresearcher.com/ask
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Nov 19, 2024 • 36min
Episode 153: The Financial Advisor's Guide to Roth Conversions
In this episode, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau are joined by Rob Cordeau to discuss the complexities and strategies surrounding Roth conversions. They emphasize the importance of long-term tax planning and the various factors that influence the decision to convert traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs. They explore the perspectives of financial advisors versus accountants, the timing of conversions, and the emotional aspects of financial planning. The conversation also touches on the implications of national debt and future tax rates, providing insights into how clients can navigate these decisions effectively. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Roth conversions can lead to significant tax savings over time.
It's crucial to consider long-term tax implications rather than just immediate savings.
Tax projections should be done annually to adjust strategies as needed.
Advisors and CPAs may have differing perspectives on Roth conversions.
Clients often have preconceived notions about Roth strategies that need addressing.
Using standard deductions effectively can enhance tax efficiency in retirement.
Roth conversions should be viewed as a hedging strategy against future tax increases.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions
01:31 Understanding Roth Conversions
03:08 The Accountant's Perspective on Roth Conversions
05:06 When to Consider Roth Conversions
08:02 Analyzing the Break-Even Point
12:15 Adjusting Strategies Over Time
14:11 Emotional Aspects of Financial Planning
16:17 Advisor vs. CPA Perspectives
19:58 Client Perspectives on Roth Conversions
22:26 Predicting Future Tax Rates
25:14 The Role of National Debt in Tax Planning
30:31 Hedging Against Future Tax Increases
31:12 Maximizing Roth Conversions
33:02 Conclusion and Next Steps
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Nov 12, 2024 • 57min
Episode 152: Navigating Holiday Money Talks
In this episode, hosts Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia engage with Dan Veto to discuss the complexities of money conversations that arise during the holiday season. They explore the concept of the 'family bank,' where family members often turn to one another for financial support, and the emotional dynamics that accompany these requests, including love, guilt, and cultural influences. The conversation also touches on the importance of setting boundaries and understanding the implications of lending money within families. They also touch on creative ways to decline financial requests while maintaining family relationships, emphasizing the significance of context in these interactions. Listen Now to learn more!
Takeaways
The holiday season often brings about awkward money conversations.
The concept of the 'family bank' describes family members who provide financial support.
Loans to family members should be treated as gifts to avoid complications.
Cultural differences can influence how families approach money and lending.
Setting clear boundaries is crucial when lending money to family members.
Understanding the implications of repeated financial requests is important.
The IRS has specific guidelines for family loans that should be considered.
It's essential to communicate openly about financial expectations within families. Family financial dynamics can be complex and nuanced.
Understanding the context of financial requests is crucial.
It's important to align financial decisions with your partner.
Recognizing the motivations behind requests for money is essential.
Establishing clear boundaries around financial assistance is necessary..
Being aware of family members' financial situations can inform decisions.
Planning ahead for potential financial requests can ease stress.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Holiday Money Conversations
02:15 Understanding the Family Bank Concept
10:33 Navigating Family Money Requests
14:54 Emotional Dynamics in Family Lending
20:34 Cultural Perspectives on Money and Family
27:39 Setting Boundaries in Family Financial Requests
29:01 Navigating Family Financial Dynamics
31:48 Personal Family Money Philosophies
35:31 Understanding Requests for Financial Help
39:00 Responding to Financial Requests
49:36 Creative Ways to Say No
51:30 Aligning Financial Decisions with Your Partner
Links
Join us TODAY 11/12 at 2pm for RWS Live! If you can't join us, submit your questions for Wade and Alex here: www.retirementresearcher.com/ask. Use this link to join us live on YouTube: https://risaprofile.com/live
Join the team at Retirement Researcher for a FREE webinar, “The Holiday Season: Making Memories...and Awkward Money Moments” hosted by Dan Veto, CSA on 11/19/24 at 1PM ET. Register to save your spot now at risaprofile.com/podcast
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Nov 5, 2024 • 43min
Episode 151: Financial Strategies for Early Retirement
Jessica Wunder, an advisor at McLean Asset Management, joins the discussion on crucial financial strategies for early retirement. She sheds light on the complexities of early withdrawals from retirement accounts like IRAs and 401(k)s. Key topics include the Rule of 55 for penalty-free withdrawals, unique exceptions for public safety employees, and new provisions from Secure Act 2.0. They also explore the 72T strategy for early, penalty-free access and various exceptions for medical expenses and education costs, making retirement planning more accessible.

Oct 29, 2024 • 54min
Episode 150: Lump Sum or Annuity: What’s Right for You?
Jason Rizkallah, Managing Director of Planning at McLean Asset Management, navigates the tricky waters of retirement finances. He breaks down the decision between taking a lump sum versus an annuity, highlighting tax implications and liquidity concerns. Listeners learn about the potential benefits of commercial annuities and the importance of comprehensive financial planning. The chat emphasizes evaluating survivor benefits and credit risks, providing insights to help retirees make informed choices tailored to their long-term goals.

Oct 22, 2024 • 47min
Episode 149: The Various Aspects of Tax Planning
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade and Alex delve into various aspects of tax planning, focusing on strategies such as front-loading taxes, tax loss harvesting, and deduction bunching. They discuss the implications of tax filing status changes, particularly for surviving spouses, and the impact of the Secure Act on inherited IRAs. The conversation emphasizes the importance of strategic Roth conversions and planning for future tax rates, providing listeners with valuable insights into effective tax management in retirement. The discussion also highlights the potential benefits of front-loading taxes and the implications of the SECURE Act on retirement accounts. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Front loading taxes can increase after-tax wealth.
Inherited IRAs have new tax implications post-Secure Act.
Roth conversions can be beneficial for beneficiaries.
Tax planning should consider future income levels.
Understanding tax liabilities is crucial for inheritance planning. Consider front-loading taxes to take advantage of current rates.
Tax loss harvesting can add value to portfolio management.
Deduction bunching can maximize tax benefits from charitable contributions.
Donor advised funds offer flexibility in charitable giving.
Appreciated shares can be donated to avoid capital gains taxes.
Increasing after-tax spending power is a key goal in tax strategy.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Tax Planning Conversations
05:12 Reasons to Front Load Taxes
08:01 Implications of Filing Status Changes
10:28 Embedded Tax Liabilities in Inheritance
12:39 Strategic Roth Conversions for Beneficiaries
14:51 Planning for Future Tax Rates
18:11 Tax Strategies for Retirement Planning
32:10 Maximizing Charitable Contributions
43:34 Future Tax Planning and Legacy Considerations
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Oct 15, 2024 • 28min
Episode 148: Tax-Efficient Income Stacking
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade and Alex discuss the complexities of tax-efficient retirement planning, focusing on understanding preferential income, tax brackets, and the implications of additional income on tax rates. They explore the net investment income tax, strategic Roth conversions, and the significance of timing in retirement income planning. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful management of social security and Medicare surcharges, particularly during the fragile decade of financial planning leading up to and following retirement. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Preferential income includes long-term capital gains and qualified dividends.
Understanding how income stacking affects tax rates is crucial.
The net investment income tax can increase effective tax rates significantly.
Roth conversions should be timed carefully to avoid higher tax brackets.
Social security decisions can influence tax planning strategies.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Tax-Efficient Retirement Planning
02:46 Understanding Preferential Income and Tax Brackets
06:01 The Impact of Additional Income on Tax Rates
09:02 Navigating the Net Investment Income Tax
11:53 Strategic Roth Conversions and Tax Planning
14:55 The Importance of Timing in Retirement Income Planning
18:08 Managing Social Security and Medicare Surcharges
20:58 The Fragile Decade of Financial Planning
24:04 Conclusion and Future Planning Strategies
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”


