

The Tech Leader's Playbook
Avetis Antaplyan
Welcome to your weekly playbook for tech leadership - where founders, executives, and innovators share real strategies for scaling smarter and leading stronger. Hosted by Avetis Antaplyan, Founder and CEO of HIRECLOUT, a top tech and go-to-market recruitment agency.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 47min
How AI is Transforming Healthcare with Sath Datla
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan and Sath Datla explore the transformative potential of AI in healthcare, particularly in precision medicine and drug discovery. They discuss the challenges faced by the healthcare industry, the ethical considerations surrounding AI, and the importance of transparency. Sath shares his personal journey into the tech world and emphasizes the need for a shift in mindset towards patient-centric care. The conversation also touches on the role of spirituality in leadership and the significance of nurturing individuality in parenting.
Takeaways
Precision medicine focuses on delivering care at the right time and place.
AI is revolutionizing healthcare by enabling personalized treatment.
The healthcare system faces significant challenges, including affordability and legacy technology.
A shift towards preventative care is essential for the future of healthcare.
AI can help predict patient risks and improve drug discovery processes.
Ethical considerations in AI include data privacy and transparency.
Future innovations will focus on personalized health solutions and lifestyle optimization.
Spirituality plays a crucial role in effective leadership.
Nurturing a child's individuality is vital for their development.
Balancing innovation with safety is key in healthcare advancements.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Precision Medicine and AI
02:25 Sath Datla’s Journey into AI and Technology Leadership
04:46 Challenges in the Healthcare Industry and the Role of AI
07:15 Pivotal Moments in Sath’s Career: Defining His Path in AI
09:38 Rethinking Healthcare: From Symptom-Centric to Personalized Medicine
12:05 Trust Issues in Healthcare and the Need for Innovation
14:24 Biomarker-Centric AI: The Future of Health Risk Profiling
19:16 Navigating Regulatory Challenges in Healthcare AI
21:39 Predicting Cytokine Release Syndrome with AI Models
26:32 Real-Time Precision Medicine: Delivering Care at the Right Time
28:58 The Role of Spirituality in Leadership
34:00 Parenting and Nurturing Unique Talents in Children
38:40 Ethical Considerations in AI-Driven Drug Discovery
43:21 Exciting Trends to Watch in Health Tech and Longevity
Sath Datla’s Social Media Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/neiodavince/
https://x.com/neiodavince
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Jan 8, 2025 • 44min
Unveiling the Future of AGI with Timothy Busbice
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, explore the fascinating world of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) with Timothy Busbice, a visionary in robotics and neuroscience. From emulating biological nervous systems to creating autonomous drones, Timothy shares groundbreaking insights into the future of robotics and the challenges of current AI. Learn how AGI could revolutionize industries, tackle ethical dilemmas, and redefine human-machine collaboration.
Takeaways
General intelligence is crucial for adapting to new environments.
AGI can revolutionize industries by enabling smarter robots.
Biological nervous systems provide a model for developing AGI.
Current AI systems are limited by their reliance on sensory input.
Movement is essential for achieving general intelligence in robots.
Neuroscience plays a vital role in AGI development.
Ethical considerations are important in replicating biological intelligence.
Future AGI systems could transfer knowledge between robots.
Humans' flawed decision-making highlights the need for AGI.
Innovations in AGI could lead to significant advancements in robotics.
Chapters
00:00 Understanding AGI: The Foundation of General Intelligence
02:48 The Role of Biological Nervous Systems in AGI
06:08 Challenges in Current AGI Development
08:58 Applications of AGI in Real-World Scenarios
12:12 Ethical Considerations in AGI Development
15:07 Future Breakthroughs in AGI and Autonomous Systems
18:02 The Importance of Neuroscience in AGI
20:59 The Societal Impact of AGI and Robotics
24:04 The Path Forward: Innovations and Challenges Ahead
26:42 Real-World Use Cases: Firefighting Drones and Beyond
30:15 Autonomous Systems in Space Exploration
33:28 Lessons from Timothy Busbice for Tech Leaders
Timothy Busbice’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothybusbice/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Jan 1, 2025 • 53min
The Truth About Remote Work with Borja Cuan
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan and Borja Cuan discuss the evolving landscape of work, particularly the dynamics of remote work versus traditional office settings. They explore themes of productivity, honesty in work motivations, the importance of loyalty and patience in career development, and the necessity of self-promotion in professional growth. The discussion also dives into the challenges of workplace distractions and the critical role of effective leadership in fostering a successful business environment. In this conversation, Avetis Antaplyan discusses the essence of real leadership, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing employees over clients to foster a positive workplace culture. He shares insights on the dynamics of remote and hybrid work, advocating for in-person collaboration to enhance productivity and learning. Antaplyan also reflects on the inevitability of challenges in life and work, encouraging individuals to embrace these struggles and invest in personal development. Finally, he highlights the role of digital marketing in scaling businesses, offering practical advice for growth.
Takeaways
You can't be productive on your commute.
Honesty in motivations for remote work is crucial.
Loyalty and patience are key to long-term success.
Self-promotion is important for career advancement.
Distraction can hinder performance in the workplace.
Focus on one career path rather than multiple side hustles.
Leadership requires understanding human capital.
Mistakes in leadership can lead to valuable lessons.
Real leadership involves taking responsibility for tough decisions.
Prioritizing employees leads to better client service.
In-person interactions are crucial for developing soft skills.
Invest in yourself to prepare for future challenges.
A hybrid work model can balance flexibility and collaboration.
Building relationships is essential for career advancement.
Don't let external pressures dictate your work style.
Focus on your own journey and contributions.
Chapters
00:00 The Productivity Debate: Commuting vs. Remote Work
00:58 Honesty in Remote Work: The Real Reasons
01:55 Career Journeys: From Entry-Level to Co-Founder
06:12 The Value of Loyalty and Patience in Careers
11:53 Bragging Rights: The Importance of Self-Promotion
17:53 Navigating Workplace Dynamics: Focus vs. Distraction
23:54 Leadership Evolution: The Journey of a Co-Founder
27:07 Real Leadership and Employee Advocacy
30:51 The Dynamics of Remote Work
39:14 Navigating Hybrid Work Models
46:02 Embracing Life's Challenges
49:04 Scaling Businesses Through Digital Marketing
Borja Cuan’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/borjacuan/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Dec 25, 2024 • 1h 11min
Build, Grow, Exit: Mastering the Business Lifecycle with Tony Safoian
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan and Tony Safoian discuss the importance of storytelling in sales, the journey from immigrant roots to becoming an industry leader, and the balance between having a big heart and being ruthless in business. They explore the challenges of scaling a company, the significance of hiring exceptional talent, and the necessity of a strong sales culture. The discussion also touches on the differences between starting a business and scaling it, emphasizing the need for processes and documentation as a company grows. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the critical aspects of employee retention, the challenges of scaling service-focused businesses, and the importance of specialization in achieving growth. He emphasizes the need for businesses to adapt to market changes and innovate continuously while also highlighting the sacrifices required for genuine growth. Avetis shares insights on aligning stakeholders during exits and the essential leadership lessons he has learned throughout his career. Finally, he reflects on finding purpose after retirement and the importance of focusing on meaningful contributions.
Takeaways
Sales is fundamentally about storytelling.
Exceptional salespeople are crucial for business success.
Scaling a business requires a focus on talent acquisition.
Sales culture can make or break a company.
Documenting processes is vital as a company grows.
Investing in top talent is necessary for success.
Transparency in business decisions builds trust.
Sharing success with employees fosters a positive culture.
It's cheaper to keep existing customers and employees.
Scaling service businesses is more challenging than tech.
Specialization is key to growth in professional services.
Listening to customers is vital for business expansion.
Leadership is about sharing credit and taking blame.
Growth requires sacrifices and hard work.
Finding purpose after retirement is important.
Chapters
00:00 The Power of Storytelling in Sales
05:05 Tony Safoian: From Immigrant Roots to Industry Leader
09:50 Balancing Heart and Ruthlessness in Business
15:07 The Journey from Zero to One vs. One to Ten
20:01 Scaling Challenges: Talent, Sales, and Processes
35:19 The Importance of Employee Retention
38:08 Scaling Service-Focused Businesses
41:06 The Power of Specialization
44:01 Navigating Market Changes and Innovations
52:08 The Sacrifices of Growth
54:32 Aligning Stakeholders During Exits
01:01:02 Leadership Lessons and Advice
01:07:40 Finding Purpose After Retirement
Tony Safoian’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/safoian/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Dec 18, 2024 • 38min
The Truth About Outsourcing Success with Sean Languedoc
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan speaks with Sean Languedoc, CEO of Outforce, about the complexities of outsourcing in the tech industry. They discuss the importance of having a solid AI strategy, the challenges of hiring data scientists without sufficient data, and the critical balance between quality, speed, and price in outsourcing. Sean shares insights on how to navigate technical debt in startups, the cultural nuances that affect outsourcing success, and the importance of time zones in choosing the right outsourcing partner. The conversation also touches on the common pitfalls in outsourcing and how Outforce helps companies find the right teams to avoid these issues. Finally, they explore how to measure success beyond just revenue growth.
Takeaways
Data audits are essential before hiring data scientists.
Outsourcing requires a balance of quality, speed, and price.
Technical debt is a common issue for startups.
Cultural fit is crucial in outsourcing relationships.
Time zones can significantly impact outsourcing success.
Avoid hiring based solely on referrals without due diligence.
A good outsourcing agency can save time and money.
Understanding the local culture can prevent miscommunication.
AI FOMO can lead to poor hiring decisions.
Success in outsourcing is measured by execution and client satisfaction.
Chapters
00:00 Understanding AI Strategy and the Need for Data Audits
02:22 Why Outsourcing is Harder Than You Think: Quality vs. Price vs. Speed
04:47 The Technical Debt Trilemma in Startup Growth
09:29 How Outforce.ai Simplifies Outsourcing Decisions
11:49 The Impact of Cultural Differences on Outsourcing Success
15:12 Common Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make When Outsourcing
18:58 How Time Zones Shape Outsourcing Efficiency
21:16 Selecting the Right Team Over the Right Region
25:06 AI FOMO: Why Data Scientists Aren’t Always the Answer
30:34 Defining Success in Outsourcing: Execution Over Promises
Sean Languedoc’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanlanguedoc/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Dec 11, 2024 • 46min
Evolving Leadership Strategies with Tiffany Houser
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan interviews Tiffany Houser, a seasoned executive coach and founder of Evolve. Tiffany shares her unexpected journey into leadership coaching, emphasizing the importance of authenticity in leadership and how it can drive personal and professional growth. Through transformative coaching experiences, she illustrates how leaders can overcome challenges, navigate perfectionism, and build trust within their teams. The conversation dives into common blind spots leaders face and the critical role of self-worth in effective leadership. In this enlightening conversation, Tiffany Houser discusses the critical importance of self-worth in leadership and personal development. She emphasizes that self-worth is foundational to trust and agility, and outlines her Self-Worth Advantage Framework, which helps leaders navigate insecurities and foster fulfillment. The discussion also touches on the challenges of leadership, the impact of imposter syndrome, and the necessity of creating supportive environments for leaders to thrive.
Takeaways
Tiffany Houser's journey into coaching was unplanned and organic.
Authenticity in leadership is crucial for driving growth and engagement.
Coaching can help leaders address personal challenges and improve team dynamics.
Perfectionism is a common insecurity that leaders must navigate.
Defining and sharing core values is essential for effective leadership.
Leaders should focus on individual team members, not just the collective.
Trust is foundational in all relationships, especially in leadership.
Managing people effectively requires understanding their individual needs.
Compromising self-worth leads to feelings of inadequacy.
Understanding the source of feelings is crucial for resolution.
Leaders must know their 'why' for fulfillment.
Avoiding issues can lead to compounding problems in relationships.
Leadership development strategies should be integrated into organizations.
Self-awareness is the first step in overcoming insecurities.
Imposter syndrome is often self-imposed and can be managed.
Creating supportive environments is essential for leader well-being.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Tiffany Houser and Her Journey
02:57 The Importance of Authenticity in Leadership
06:12 Transformative Coaching Experiences
08:59 Understanding Authentic Leadership
11:51 Navigating Perfectionism and Vulnerability
15:03 Identifying Blind Spots in Leadership
18:00 The Role of Trust and Self-Worth in Leadership
27:59 The Foundation of Self-Worth
31:01 Transforming Trust and Agility
35:02 The Self-Worth Advantage Framework
38:54 Understanding Fulfillment and Leadership
40:51 Creating Supportive Leadership Environments
44:02 Navigating Imposter Syndrome and Self-Perception
Tiffany Houser’s Social Media Links:
https://www.instagram.com/tiffanyhouser
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyhouser
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Dec 4, 2024 • 55min
Empowering Teams for Rapid Decision-Making With Lawrence Eta
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan speaks with Lawrence Eta, a seasoned global technology leader, about his journey from Nigeria to becoming the CTO of Toronto and his transition to Saudi Arabia. They discuss the importance of empowering leadership, navigating the complexities of public service, and the differences in governance and decision-making between democratic and monarchy-based systems. Lawrence shares insights on innovation in public service, successful tech initiatives, and the cultural shifts in the approach to technology and governance. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the complexities of leadership, the balance between authority and empowerment, and the future of smart cities driven by technology. He emphasizes the importance of cultural understanding and emotional intelligence in leadership, sharing insights from his diverse experiences across various countries. The discussion also touches on the significance of modern technology in urban development and the need for leaders to approach their roles with humility and a willingness to learn from others.
Takeaways
Empower your team to make decisions.
A CTO's role involves managing diverse teams.
Strong financial acumen is essential in public service.
Innovation is about failing fast and iterating.
Public service requires a focus on trust and confidence.
Incremental movements can lead to significant change.
Governance structure impacts the speed of transformation.
Cultural differences affect decision-making processes.
Leadership is crucial in managing large teams.
Empowering teams is crucial for effective leadership.
Cultural understanding is key to successful leadership.
Smart cities will leverage AI and IoT for better living.
Emotional intelligence is essential in diverse environments.
The future of urban tech relies on secure data sharing.
Leadership should focus on serving and empowering others.
Building trust is fundamental in leadership roles.
Modern technology must be integrated into urban planning.
Humility in leadership fosters better relationships.
Chapters
00:00 Empowering Leadership and Trust
03:04 Lawrence Eta's Journey to CTO
06:14 A Day in the Life of a CTO
09:02 Navigating Politics and Technology
11:54 Innovation in Public Service
15:10 Successful Tech Initiatives in Toronto
18:02 Transitioning to Saudi Arabia
20:53 Governance and Speed of Transformation
24:09 Cultural Differences in Decision Making
28:33 Leadership Styles: Balancing Authority and Empowerment
34:28 The Future of Smart Cities and Technology
44:12 Bridging Worlds: A Journey Through Leadership and Culture
48:04 Cultural Nuances in Leadership Across Countries
Lawrence Eta’s Website:
https://lawrenceeta.com/
Lawrence Eta’s Social Media Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-eta-9b11139/
https://www.instagram.com/the.lawrence.eta/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Nov 27, 2024 • 49min
Why Most Marketing Strategies Fail and How to Fix Them with Hamlet Azarian
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan interviews Hamlet Azarian, founder and CEO of Azarian Growth Agency. They discuss the importance of identifying gaps in business and surrounding oneself with the right talent. Hamlet shares his journey into growth marketing, emphasizing the significance of data-driven strategies and understanding ROI in marketing budgets. The conversation also covers B2B marketing strategies, the distinction between marketing qualified leads (MQL) and sales qualified leads (SQL), and the challenges of hiring in today's market. Finally, they explore how startups can build a growth engine to scale effectively. In this conversation, Avetis Antaplyan discusses the critical stages of startup growth, emphasizing the importance of building a scalable growth engine, navigating pivots, and understanding product-market fit. He explores the balance between marketing-led and product-led growth strategies, the transformative role of AI in marketing, and the necessity of experimentation in developing effective marketing strategies. Avetis also addresses the evolving landscape of SEO and the significance of thought leadership in establishing authority. Finally, he highlights the importance of delegation and surrounding oneself with the right talent to achieve business success.
Takeaways
Surrounding yourself with the right talent is crucial.
A career transition can lead to discovering new passions.
Data-driven marketing is essential for success.
Every marketing dollar should be viewed as an investment.
Expect varying timelines for marketing results based on strategies.
Understanding MQL and SQL is vital for effective sales.
Hiring challenges require a strategic approach.
Automation and AI can enhance outreach efforts.
Building authority through thought leadership is important.
A predictable growth engine is key for startups. Customer discovery is essential for understanding real problems.
Building a repeatable growth engine is crucial for scaling.
Pivots can lead to significant success in startups.
Product-led growth works best for self-serve businesses.
AI tools are integral to modern marketing strategies.
Experimentation is key to discovering effective marketing tactics.
SEO will evolve, focusing more on personal expertise.
Thought leadership enhances authority and drives business.
Delegation allows founders to focus on their strengths.
Surrounding yourself with the right talent is vital for growth.
Chapters
00:00 Identifying Gaps and Building Teams
03:04 Hamlet Azarian's Journey to Growth Marketing
05:50 The Importance of Data-Driven Marketing
09:04 Understanding ROI and Marketing Budgets
11:51 B2B Marketing Strategies for Service Businesses
17:58 MQL vs SQL: Understanding Lead Qualification
21:11 The Challenges of Hiring and Recruitment
23:05 Scaling Startups: Building a Growth Engine
24:04 Building the First Growth Engine
25:28 Navigating Pivots and Product-Market Fit
27:52 Marketing vs. Product-Led Growth
31:08 The Role of AI in Growth Marketing
34:13 Experimentation in Marketing Strategies
37:30 The Future of SEO and Thought Leadership
40:50 The Importance of Delegation and Team Building
Hamlet Azarian’s Website:
https://azariangrowthagency.com/
https://hamletazarian.com/
Hamlet Azarian’s Social Media Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamletazarian/
https://x.com/hamletazarian
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Oct 30, 2024 • 49min
Aligning Visions for Team Success with Chad Brown
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Chad L Brown shares his journey from being a struggling media production company owner to becoming a leadership engagement expert. He discusses the importance of taking responsibility as a leader, embracing discomfort for growth, and the significance of having difficult conversations. Chad introduces the 'Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle' to illustrate how avoiding small issues can lead to larger problems. He emphasizes the need for leaders to enroll their teams in a shared vision to drive success and fulfillment in the workplace. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the importance of hiring for alignment and growth, emphasizing that not all employees seek rapid advancement. He highlights the need for companies to engage with their employees meaningfully and address issues proactively to avoid passive-aggressive exits. The discussion transitions into work-life balance, where Antaplyan challenges traditional notions of balance, advocating for a vision-driven approach that prioritizes both family and work commitments.
Takeaways
Leadership is about the results you create with others.
Taking responsibility for outcomes is crucial for effective leadership.
Embracing discomfort can lead to significant personal and professional growth.
Avoiding difficult conversations can lead to larger issues down the line.
The 'Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle' illustrates the importance of addressing small problems early.
Leaders must project future outcomes to guide their teams effectively.
Short-term comfort can lead to long-term pain in leadership.
Effective communication is key to maintaining team dynamics.
Addressing red flags early is crucial.
Using employees as tools can lead to burnout.
Work-life balance should be redefined as a vision-driven approach.
Effective systems should not overshadow the purpose of work.
Entrepreneurs should focus on scaling themselves.
Chapters
00:00 The Journey to Leadership Coaching
02:45 The Importance of Leadership Responsibility
06:05 Embracing Discomfort for Growth
09:05 The Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle
11:55 Navigating Difficult Conversations
15:13 Enrolling Teams in a Shared Vision
24:32 Hiring for Alignment and Growth
28:17 Work-Life Balance: Redefining the Concept
34:41 Effective Systems and Structures for Sustainability
40:05 Empowering Entrepreneurs for Personal Freedom
Chad Brown’s Website:
https://www.founder-freedom.com/
Chad Brown’s Social Media Links:
https://www.youtube.com/@Cult-Like
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-brown-founder-freedom
https://www.instagram.com/chad.leslie.brown
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Oct 23, 2024 • 50min
How to Master Sales as an Introvert with Matthew Pollard
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Matthew Pollard, known as The Rapid Growth Guy, shares his journey from struggling introvert to successful consultant. He emphasizes the importance of creating a unique message and conveying passion and mission through storytelling. He challenges the misconception that introverts can't sell and highlights successful introverted salespeople. Matthew also discusses the need for a sales system before hiring a salesperson and the power of storytelling in the sales process. Matthew Pollard discusses the misconceptions about introverts and how they can excel in sales and networking. He shares the reasons behind writing his books on introverted sales and networking, and how introverts can leverage their natural gifts to succeed. He also talks about the future of entrepreneurship and the role of technology in changing communication. Additionally, he discusses the Small Business Festival he launched and the importance of learning outside of one's functional skills.
Takeaways
Create a unique message that sets you apart from competitors
Convey passion and mission through storytelling
Develop a sales system before hiring a salesperson
Use storytelling to build rapport and engage customers
Introverts can be successful in sales Introverts can excel in sales and networking by leveraging their natural gifts, such as active listening and empathy.
Technology has made it easier for introverts to succeed in sales and marketing, as it allows for automation and reaching ideal clients.
Validating the message and building relationships through in-person or virtual interactions is crucial for success in business.
The Small Business Festival was launched to provide small business owners with actionable tools and practical skills to grow their businesses.
Matthew Pollard's books and resources offer valuable insights and strategies for introverted entrepreneurs and salespeople.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:45 Unleashing the Power of Storytelling in Sales
13:25 Building a Unique Message to Stand Out
18:16 The Importance of Passion and Mission in Sales
23:23 Developing a Sales System for Rapid Growth
25:08 Introverts Can Sell Too: Debunking the Myth
34:22 The Impact of Technology on Entrepreneurship
40:36 The Small Business Festival
46:59 Strategies for Success
Matthew Pollard’s Website:
https://matthewpollard.com/
Matthew Pollard’s Social Media Links:
https://www.youtube.com/@Matthewpollard
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewpollardspeaker/
https://www.instagram.com/matthewpollardspeaker
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/


