

The Dissidents
The Dissidents
Welcome to the Dissidents podcast from the Institute for Liberal Values (formerly the Counterweight Podcast), where we talk about how we can strive for a world in which freedom and reason are at the forefront of all human society.
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Dec 5, 2023 • 1h 4min
History of Liberalism | James Petts
In this Liberal Conversation series of the Dissident’s Podcast, Mike and James discuss the history of liberalism, how power is abused by those factions traditionally associated with the left and the right and how those labels are themselves arbitrary rather than principled.
Institute for Liberal Values

Nov 28, 2023 • 53min
Potemkin Villages: The Origin of Antisemitic Soviet Propaganda & it's Influence on American Education & Media | Izabella Tabarovsky
Welcome to the Radical Roots of Ethnic Studies, a series of the Dissidents Podcast, with your co-hosts, Jennifer Richmond and Brandy Shufutinsky. In this series we explore the radical roots of liberated ethnic studies, how extreme ideology is infiltrating our schools with the aim to indoctrinate instead of educate, and our search for solutions to empower parents, teachers and students, giving them the tools to embrace inquiry and to express their individuality.
This week we speak with Izabella Tabarovsky, a Soviet Jewish Immigrant who has dedicated her research to exploring the spread of Soviet propaganda throughout the modern world. In this podcast she shares with the Soviet origins of antisemitic & anti-zionist propaganda & tropes, both the right & left’s adoption of these ideologies, its influence in today’s American media landscape and education system, and how Hamas used the same protocols put forth by the Russians and subsequently the Nazis to justify a Jewish genocide.
Coalition for Empowered Education
Institute for Liberal Values
Podcast Notes:
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Potemkin Village
Find out more about Izabella, a Senior Advisor at the Wilson Center, and see her most recent media interviews.
How Soviet Propaganda Informs Contemporary Left Anti-Zionism, Izabella Tabarovsky for Tablet Magazine
Let Russian Jews Lead, Izabella Tabarovsky for Tablet Magazine
The Cult of ‘Antizionism’, Izabella Tabarovsky for Tablet Magazine
Read Izabella’s Afterword for Letters in Black & White

Nov 21, 2023 • 1h 27min
"Queers for Palestine" and the Death of Irony | Armin Navabi & David Bernstein
In this week's podcast Armin Navabi, David Bernstein & Mike Burke discuss homophobia in relation to Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, "pink washing", the future of the two state solution (or lack thereof) and the role that religion plays in how different cultures conceive of power and weakness.Podcast Notes:
Armin Navabi, “Queers for Palestine” and the Death of Irony — Queer Majority
Female Saudi anchor on Al Arabiya confronts Hamas leader Khaled Mashal on his group's terrorism in Israel - Hamas Leader Abroad Rejects Accusations of Transgressions against Civilians on October 7 Attack - YouTube

Nov 17, 2023 • 1h 17min
Ep. 032: Dirty Little Secrets: University Funding, Academic Freedom, and Antisemitism
In this week's episode, Mike and Elizabeth talk about a report that links receipt of undisclosed foreign donations with the erosion of tolerance on U.S. campuses. Larger donations from Middle Eastern and authoritarian countries appeared especially troublesome. Correlational results indicate that a lack of university transparency about their funding sources was concurrent with reported increases in antisemitism and with challenges to norms of free expression. Elizabeth expresses skepticism regarding any causal inferences. Mike shares his views about the likely goals of donors from authoritarian countries and specifically discusses funds from Qatar. Both agree with the authors that more research is warranted.
Podcast Notes:
The Corruption of the American Mind: How Concealed Foreign Funding of U.S. Higher Education Predicts Erosion of Democratic Values and Antisemitic Incidents on Campus.
From the Network Contagion Research Institute:
https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/NCRI-Report_The-Corruption-of-the-American-Mind.pdf

Nov 14, 2023 • 49min
Critical Resentment Theory & the Colonization of the Mind
Welcome to the Radical Roots of Ethnic Studies, a series of the Dissidents Podcast, with your co-hosts, Jennifer Richmond and Brandy Shufutinsky. In this series we explore the radical roots of liberated ethnic studies, how extreme ideology is infiltrating our schools with the aim to indoctrinate instead of educate, and our search for solutions to empower parents, teachers and students, giving them the tools to embrace inquiry and to express their individuality.
This week we speak with Carob Marcelle, an educator, mother and host of Be Not Afraid. Carob moved her family from Washington to Utah in search of a K-12 education for her child that was free of indoctrination. What she found instead was a growing institutionalization of critical social justice throughout both the education system and religious environment. In her concern over the “colonization” of our minds, she has gone in search of ways to promote black history free of critical “resentment” theory.
Podcast Notes:
Be Not Afraid: https://www.youtube.com/@CarobMarcelle

Nov 10, 2023 • 1h 59min
Ep. 031: Balancing Act: The Dynamics of Friendly and Unfriendly Connections
In this week's episode, Mike and Elizabeth go back to basics with a discussion about balance. We begin and end with contemporary challenges to balance in our personal and professional lives, particularly those posed by DEI initiatives. Sandwiched between is a deep dive on balance in international relations, with a focus on the Middle East. Mike employs his background and training to take us through some of the most important historical challenges to balance in the region, from the Ottoman Empire to the crisis unfolding today.
Institute for Liberal Values
Podcast Notes:
Antal, T., Krapivsky, P. L., & Redner, S. (2006). Social balance on networks: The dynamics of friendship and enmity. Physica D, 224(1/2), 130–136. https://doi-org.libserv-prd.bridgew.edu/10.1016/j.physd.2006.09.028

Nov 3, 2023 • 1h 45min
Ep. 030: Digital Dopamine: The Value of Personal and Organizational Statements
In this week's episode ILV fellows Mike, Elizabeth, and James discuss position statements and ILV's commitment to liberal conversations. First, Mike talks with Elizabeth who argues that organizational statements are of little practical use and may jeopardize the non-partisan and non-sectarian missions of consortiums like ILV. In the second part of the podcast, Mike and James continue to discuss how dangerously close institutional statements can come to compelling speech. In both segments we talk about antisemitism, war, and the difference between personal and organizational neutrality.
Institute for Liberal Values
Podcast notes:
https://provost.uchicago.edu/reports/report-universitys-role-political-and-social-action

Oct 31, 2023 • 1h 3min
New Beginnings and Old Fears: Channy Laux on Escaping Cambodian Genocide
Channy Chhi Laux joins us to discuss her perspectives on communism, free speech, individual rights and responsibilities, and contemporary challenges to liberal values. Channy was just 13 when the Khmer Rouge seized Cambodia in 1975. She endured 4 years of starvation, forced labor, and disease before arriving in Lincoln, Nebraska as a Cambodian refugee who spoke no English and who had been denied 4 years of education. Channy went on to earn an advanced degree in Applied Mathematics and spent 30 years working in Silicon Valley as an engineer. She is the founder of Angkor Cambodian Food, and works with schools and other organizations, like the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, to promote awareness of the Cambodian Genocide.
Institute for Liberal Values
Podcast Notes:
Channy’s memoir: Short Hair Detention: Memoir of a Thirteen-Year-Old Girl Surviving the Cambodian Genocide(Bloomington, IN: Archway Publishing, 2017).
Learn about the California Collaborative for Holocaust and Genocide Education: https://holocaustcenter.jfcs.org/california-collaborative/
Access a preview of Channy's Cambodian Genocide educational materials: https://cambodiangenocideresourcecenter.com/lesson-plan-download/
See Channy's Victims of Communism page here: https://victimsofcommunism.org/speaker/channy-chhi-laux/
Check out Angkor Cambodian Food:
https://www.angkorfood.com/

Oct 27, 2023 • 1h 46min
Ep. 029: Antisemitism Before and After the 7th | David Bernstein & Brandy Shufutinsky
On October the 5th Brandy Shufutinsky, David Bernstein and Mike Burke met to discuss the growing problem of antisemitism on both the political left and right. Little could any of them know what was about to happen just a couple of days later on October the 7th, which was the worst attack on the Jewish people, since the Holocaust. In an addendum to the original recording, made just a few days later but in what felt like a totally different era, Mike and Brandy included a follow-up conversation on the outpourings of antisemitic madness erupting across Western world, including direct incitements to violence by academics at prestigious universities, hordes of people taking to the streets to celebrate some of the worst of atrocities of the 21st century and schools in London having to temporarily close due to the very real fear of violent mobs attacking Jewish children.
Podcast Notes:
Podcast notes:
You can find the Coalition for Empowered Education’s downloadable letter to California superintendents on the Institute for Liberal Values website.

Oct 24, 2023 • 28min
Connecting Liberated Ethnic Studies and Hamas
Welcome to the Radical Roots of Ethnic Studies, a series of the Dissidents Podcast, with your co-hosts, Jennifer Richmond and Brandy Shufutinsky. In this series we explore the radical roots of liberated ethnic studies, how extreme ideology is infiltrating our schools with the aim to indoctrinate instead of educate, and our search for solutions to empower parents, teachers and students, giving them the tools to embrace inquiry and to express their individuality.
Hamas’ recent terrorist attack in Israel has garnered the support of the Coalition for Liberated Ethnic Studies (CLES), a group that is designing curricula for K12 education and is involved in teacher training, funded in large part by California taxpayers. In this episode we discuss CLES’ support of Hamas, the subtle and sloganized language used by CLES and Hamas supporters that conflates hatred and terrorism with “resistance”, CLES Ethnic Studies curricula’s ideological emphasis on Palestine, and the release of recent curricula surrounding the attack that fails to address the nuance and complexity of the conflict.
Coalition for Empowered Education
Institute for Liberal Values
Podcast Notes:
Neo-Confederacy & Palestinian Ultranationalism: How Prejudice is Justified Through the Myth of “Lost Civilization”, Dmitri Shufutinsky in ISGAP Flashpoint, Feb 27, 2023
The Cult of ‘Antizionism’, Izabella Tabarovsky in Tablet Magazine, Sept 19, 2023
*You can find Izabella’s Afterword to Letters in Black and White on the Truth in Between website.*
*You can find the Coalition for Empowered Education’s downloadable letter to California superintendents on the Institute for Liberal Values website.”


