
The Cyber Ranch Podcast
Ride the cyber trails with two CISOs (Allan Alford and Drew Simonis) and a diverse group of friends and experts who bring a human perspective to cybersecurity.
Latest episodes

Jun 5, 2023 • 36min
RSAC 2023 Special Edition Campfire Chats - Part 2
This is Part 1 of an incredible series of interviews Allan conducted live at RSA 2023. Guests include:
Gary Hayslip, CISO @ Softbank Investment Advisers
Michael Calderin, CISO @ YAGEO Group
David Cross, CISO @ Oracle SaaS Cloud
Audra Streetman, Security Strategist @ Splunk
Adrian Peters, CISO @ Vista Equity Partners
Robin Sundaram, CISO @ RELX
Merritt Baer, Office of the CISO @ AWS
Rob Wood, CISO @ Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Bryan Green, CISO Americas @ ZScaler
Stephanie Derdouri, Sr. Manager, Information Security and Technology Risk Management @ Capital Group
Andres Andreu, CISO @ 2U
Paul Love, CISO & Chief Privacy Officer @ Co-op Solutions
Royce Markose, former CISO
Bob Schuetter, CISO @ Ashland
Susan Thomas, CEO @ 10Fold
Brian Markham, CISO @ EAB
Ken Foster, VP of IT GRC @ FLEETCOR
Elizabeth Martinez, Account Exec @ ThreatLocker
Josiah Dykstra, Senior Fellow, Office of Innovation @ The NSA
Kevin Brown, CEO @ Innit
Brent Deterding, CISO @ Afni
Audra Streetman, Security Strategist @ Splunk
Wendy Whitmore, SVP, Unit 42 @ Palo Alto Networks
I ask my guests several questions including:
How do you impact the top and bottom line?
What topics are you tired of in cybersecurity?
There are also some special interviews at the end - discussions about the RSA conference itself, tech stack sprawl, and personal branding and marketing for CISOs. Oh - and a question about how vendors and CISOs can work better together AND a conversation about how government and industry can work together in cybersecurity.
Give this one a listen! It's jam-packed with great insights!
Sponsored by AttackIQ & Semperis.
AttackIQ offers a new fully managed breach and attack simulation service. They are the premier provider of MITRE ATT&CK-based security control validation. https://attackiq.com
Semperis provides the industry's most comprehensive Active Directory and Azure AD cyber resilience platform, supported by specialized AD incident response expertise. https://semperis.com

May 31, 2023 • 33min
1% Leadership with Andy Ellis
This week's show is exciting because Allan has been waiting for Andy's book on leadership to come out for quite some time. The book is called “1% Leadership – Master The Small, Daily Improvements That Set Great Leaders Apart”, and it consists of 54 chapters - each of which presents a specific facet of good leadership in a nearly "buffet style" manner. You can pick and choose topics that resonate with you and dive right in.
Allan picked 6 chapters that resonated with him in particular and got Andy to elaborate:
Chapter 1 - “Personal improvement is a prerequisite to leading professionally”
Chapter 6 - “Gift kindness where it isn’t expected”
Chapter 8 – “An uncompelled apology unburdens everyone”
Chapter 13 - "Your wellness is one of the greatest assets you control" (Listen as Andy hits Allan straight in the feels on this topic)
Chapter 24 – "People need to see versions of themselves to feel welcome"
Chapter 35 - "In general, be vague"
The book is amazing, these particular chapters are amazing, and Andy's expounding upon them is amazing as well!
Y'all be good now!

May 24, 2023 • 33min
Will LLM AI Close The Bad Guys’ Skills Gap? with Adrian Sanabria
This episode is a bit scary. Adrian Sanabria, who on an earlier show busted many cybersecurity myths, is back again, this time analyzing the impact of Large Language Model Artificial Intelligence on a hypothesized skills gap on the bad guy side.
Premise One: Given how many organizations that are vulnerable and that have NOT been breached, the bad guys are suffering the same skills gap we are.
Premise Two: Exploit attacks (think of exploits as ransomware, data hostage situations, threats to publish breached data, etc.) can benefit from LLM AI.
It's really that simple a connecting of the dots. Adrian and Allan deconstruct the steps of an exploit attack, analyze the capabilities of LLM AI and cross-reference the two.
If they are right, then we have a burden of leveraging and learning LLM AI ourselves, as quickly as possible...
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.

May 22, 2023 • 32min
RSAC 2023 SPECIAL EDITION Campfire Chats - Part 1
This is Part 1 of an incredible series of interviews Allan conducted live at RSA 2023. Guests include:
Chris Kennedy, CISO @ Citadel
Gary Hayslip, CISO @ Softbank Investment Advisers
Michael Calderin, CISO @ YAGEO Group
Reet Kaur, CISO @ Portland Community College
Rob LaMagna-Reiter, CISO @ Hudl
Matthew Lang, vCISO
David Cross, CISO @ Oracle SaaS Cloud
Audra Streetman, Security Strategist @ Splunk
Vishal Amin, General Manager of Security Solutions (Federal) @ Microsoft
Adrian Peters, CISO @ Vista Equity Partners
Kelly Shortridge, Author of “Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems”
Robin Sundaram, CISO @ RELX
Merritt Baer, Office of the CISO @ AWS
Tim Rohrbaugh, former CISO & Industry Leader
Rob Wood, CISO @ Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Bryan Green, CISO Americas @ ZScaler
Stephanie Derdouri, Sr. Manager, Information Security and Technology Risk Management @ Capital Group
Andres Andreu, CISO @ 2U
Paul Love, CISO & Chief Privacy Officer @ Co-op Solutions
Royce Markose, former CISO
Bob Schuetter, CISO @ Ashland
I ask my guests several questions:
What is the best part of RSAC 2023 for you?
What is the single most critical skill a security leader needs?
What's missing in cybersecurity?
What is your take on Purple Teaming and MITRE ATT&CK?
How do you co-lead the organization?
There is also a VERY special interview with James Stanley, Chief of Product Development at CISA at the end. Don't miss it!
Sponsored by Semperis & AttackIQ.
Semperis provides the industry's most comprehensive Active Directory and Azure AD cyber resilience platform, supported by specialized AD incident response expertise. https://semperis.com
AttackIQ offers a new fully managed breach and attack simulation service. They are the premier provider of MITRE ATT&CK-based security control validation. https://attackiq.com

May 17, 2023 • 30min
Two Founder CEOs with Merav Bahat and Mickey Bresman
Leadership skills, technical skills, cybersecurity skills, pluck, drive and determination are all on display as Allan interviews Merav Bahat, CEO @ Dazz and Mickey Bresman, CEO @ Semperis.
Dazz has completed a Series A investment round. Semperis a Series C. It turns out that the skills each CEO needs are still remarkably the same.
Saddle up for another episode, where Allan asks his guests:
What’s the coolest thing that has happened for you or to you as a startup CEO?
What has been the biggest single challenge?
What are your top 3 tenets of leadership?
What is the purpose of vision and how clear must it be?
What is the purpose of mission and how clear must it be?
What is your advice to those who would want to become a startup CEO?
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.

May 10, 2023 • 41min
Security Chaos Engineering with Kelly Shortridge
What is security chaos engineering? You may remember Kelly Shortridge, our very first guest, who came on the show to talk about behavioral economics and cybersecurity. Well Kelly is back to talk about her new book, "Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems".
Security chaos engineering is derived from chaos engineering, a relatively new discipline in software development that seeks to test distributed computing systems to ensure that they withstand unexpected disruptions. It's all about resilience, in other words. Security chaos engineering seeks to do the same for the security of such software systems.
Kelly breaks down her book during a lively conversation featuring an opinion or two her cat, Link (yes, a Zelda reference!):
Who should read this book?
Resilience in software and systems
Systems-oriented security
Architecting and designing
Building and delivering
Operating and observing (Allan's favorite chapter as it intersects with one of his Zero Trust tenets)
Responding and recovering
Platform resilience engineering
Security chaos experiments (a very fun chapter!)
Case studies
Note that the book is peppered with references and quotes from other disciplines. We would expect no less from Kelly.
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.

May 3, 2023 • 30min
The 9-Layer Cybersecurity Program Cake with Bryan Liebert
Bryan Liebert is one smart cookie. Who bakes cybersecurity cakes. But seriously, Bryan has been a CISO, consultant, architect, and has served many other roles in cybersecurity. His specialty is creating simple to digest (we could not help it, sorry!) models for managing and reporting on cybersecurity programs and practices.
Join Bryan and Allan as they serve up (we're still doing it!) a lively and informative episode!
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.

Apr 26, 2023 • 36min
Four Problems with Cybersecurity with Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright, "The Cynical CISO" of LinkedIn fame, joins Allan to discuss four areas where cybersecurity is perhaps getting it wrong:
Cybersecurity viewed as a necessary evil, related to The Twilight Zone
Ownership, Authority, Accountability: Inventory and Means of Control
Are WE the baddies?
(Largely) Forgotten Security Principles
Allan and Adrian dissect cybersecurity practice in this great episode!
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.

Apr 24, 2023 • 35min
The Cloud and the Big Bang of Data with Cecil Pineda and Gene Moore
Join us for a SPECIAL EDITON! episode of The Cyber Ranch Podcast LIVE! from CISO XC in Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas!
The topic is data security: its challenges and how to overcome them.
Joining Allan are Cecil Pineda of R1 ("Cecil the CISO") and Gene Moore of Securiti.
The conversation is live and lively, recorded as-is and delivered to you.
Enjoy!
Sponsored by Securiti - https://securiti.ai/

Apr 19, 2023 • 35min
The Blurring of Personal & Corporate Security with Leigh Honeywell
We always think of cybersecurity startups as companies who contribute to the tech stack in an organizational environment - usually the enterprise. We also think of personal cybersecurity in terms of protecting Grandma or our kids from the bad guys. But these two worlds intersect far more than you would think, and the techniques for addressing these problems intersect as well.
This week Allan is joined by Leigh Honeywell, CEO at Tall Poppy, to discuss these intersections. Leigh is uniquely qualified, as her non-traditional startup addresses "personal security outside the firewall", which includes executive protection...
Sponsored by our good friends at Dazz:
Dazz takes the pain out of the cloud remediation process using automation and intelligence to discover, reduce, and fix security issues—lightning fast. Visit Dazz.io/demo and see for yourself.
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