

Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies
Jason Swenk
Growing an agency is very difficult, and you might feel unclear what to do next in order to grow and scale your agency. The Smart Agency Masterclass is a weekly podcast for agencies that are wanting to grow faster. We interview amazing guests from all over the world that have the experience of running successful businesses, and will provide you the insights you need. Our podcast is just over 3 years old, and have reached more than a half million listeners in 42 countries.
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Jul 20, 2025 • 33min
Thinking of Buying Another Agency? Read This First - with Matt Marchetta | Ep #816
Join Matt Marchetta, an agency owner with 20 years of digital marketing experience, as he shares his journey from web design to acquiring Growth Labs, a lead generation agency. He warns of the pitfalls of agency acquisitions, focusing on due diligence and the importance of asking the right questions. Matt recounts the unexpected challenges he faced, including managing client guarantees and the significance of personal branding. His insights are invaluable for any agency owner considering growth through acquisition, ensuring you avoid costly mistakes.

Jul 16, 2025 • 27min
How Future-Ready Agencies Are Using AI to Bank an Extra $200K with Phil Parrish | Ep #815
Phil Parrish, Co-founder and President of PrograMetrix, shares his insights on the urgent need for agencies to adopt AI for staying competitive. He highlights how AI can enhance efficiency, drive better client results, and deliver deeper insights. Phil discusses the importance of evolving from traditional practices to embracing innovation, asserting that agencies lagging behind on AI risk being outpaced by nimble competitors. He emphasizes a culture of adaptation and problem-solving to harness AI as a growth multiplier for agencies, ensuring they remain relevant in a fast-changing landscape.

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Jul 15, 2025 • 9min
Why 40% of CMOs Are Cutting Agency Budgets in 2025 (And How to Stay Off the List)
A startling 40% of CMOs are planning budget cuts this year. Agencies that merely sell tasks risk being cut, while those that position themselves as essential partners thrive. The key lies in effective communication and demonstrating real value. Many agencies fall short post-contract, leading to frustration among clients. In-house teams and AI are taking over basic production, making it crucial for agencies to step up and truly engage with their clients to avoid being replaced.

Jul 13, 2025 • 28min
How to Keep Clients Longer Without Chasing Them with Darby Copenhaver | Ep #813
Darby Copenhaver, an Agency Scale Specialist, shares insights on enhancing client retention by prioritizing satisfaction and fostering strong relationships. He discusses the pitfalls of poor onboarding and communication, emphasizing the need for transparency. Darby also outlines the importance of positioning agencies as trusted advisors and leveraging AI to streamline processes while maintaining human connection. Key strategies include preventing buyer's remorse and utilizing ongoing discovery to adapt to client needs, ensuring long-term loyalty.

Jul 9, 2025 • 18min
Why Smart Agencies Build Leaders (Not Just Hire Them) with Hamlet Azarian | Ep #812
Hamlet Azarian, Founder and CEO of Azarian Growth Agency, champions the idea of cultivating leaders from within. He shares how nurturing internal talent fosters a growth mindset, referencing a success story of an intern who rapidly advanced to a senior position. The podcast delves into merit-based career paths and designing supportive environments that balance individual ambitions with organizational goals. Azarian also addresses talent retention, highlighting that positive employee experiences can lead to valuable referrals, even if team members eventually move on.

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Jul 6, 2025 • 29min
How to Make Clients Choose You and Stay: Lessons You Can Steal from Caitlin Copple & Holly Conti | Ep #811
Caitlin Copple and Holly Conti, co-partners of Full Swing PR, share their experience scaling their agency past the million-dollar mark in just four years. They discuss the importance of collaboration and transparent communication in agency partnerships. Highlighting the evolution of client relationships, they emphasize shifting focus from publicity to generating tangible sales pipelines. The duo also dives into quarterly planning as a strategy for success and shares innovative ideas like using private podcasts to enhance client engagement.

Jul 2, 2025 • 23min
Why Going ‘Niche or Die’ Paid Off Big for Daniel Moscovitch | Ep #810
Daniel Moscovitch, the founder of Flooring Pros Marketing, emphasizes the power of niche specialization in digital marketing. He shares his journey from being a generalist to focusing solely on the flooring industry, highlighting the initial challenges and the rewards that came with it. Moscovitch also discusses the importance of clarity in business partnerships and how leveraging AI tools has enhanced his agency's decision-making and efficiency. His story illustrates the value of persistence and understanding client needs in achieving success.

Jul 1, 2025 • 4min
AI Tools Are Cheap Now… But That’s About to Change. What Agencies Need to Know
Agencies relying on cheap AI tools may be in for a shock as costs are predicted to soar. The comparison to Uber's pricing trajectory highlights the temporary nature of today's affordability. A successful strategy involves auditing current systems, creating proprietary processes, and enhancing skills for future resilience. While automation can save time and money, documenting workflows is crucial to avoid chaos when change strikes. Smart operators leverage AI effectively, preparing for a market where loyalty and stability could soon come at a premium.

Jun 29, 2025 • 35min
Building a $30M Agency with the Right KPIs, AI Hacks & Client Moves with Chris Dreyer | Ep #808
Chris Dreyer, CEO of Rankings.io, shares insights on transforming his legal marketing agency from a humble seven figures to an impressive $30 million in revenue. He emphasizes the importance of data-driven decision-making and key performance indicators for success. Dreyer also explores the impactful role of AI in enhancing client communication and operational efficiency. Additionally, he highlights the significance of in-person meetings for building client relationships and discusses the challenges of leadership in a rapidly growing environment.

Jun 25, 2025 • 26min
How to Create a Digital Brain for Your Agency and Scale Smarter with Shawn Johnston | Ep #807
Shawn Johnston, owner of Forge and Smith, a Vancouver web agency, shares his journey from print designer to agency founder. He discusses the importance of documenting processes for smooth operations and scaling. Shawn reveals how AI can create a 'digital brain' for agencies, empowering teams and eliminating bottlenecks. He also focuses on optimizing tasks for greater profitability and the value of shifting to value-based pricing, providing actionable tips for agency owners seeking to create more freedom in their work.