

RegulatingAI Podcast: Innovate Responsibly
Sanjay Puri
Welcome to the RegulatingAI Podcast: Innovate Responsibly podcast with host and AI regulation expert Sanjay Puri. Sanjay is a pivotal leader at the intersection of technology, policy and entrepreneurship and explores the intricate landscape of artificial intelligence governance on this podcast.
You can expect thought-provoking conversations with global leaders as they tackle the challenge of regulating AI without stifling innovation. With diverse perspectives from industry giants, government officials and civil liberty proponents, each episode explores key questions and actionable steps for creating a balanced AI-driven world.
Don't miss this essential guide to the future of AI governance, with a fresh episode available every week!
You can expect thought-provoking conversations with global leaders as they tackle the challenge of regulating AI without stifling innovation. With diverse perspectives from industry giants, government officials and civil liberty proponents, each episode explores key questions and actionable steps for creating a balanced AI-driven world.
Don't miss this essential guide to the future of AI governance, with a fresh episode available every week!
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May 22, 2024 • 40min
AI and Regulatory Frameworks in Telecommunications with Nicolas Kourtellis
In this episode, I welcome Nicolas Kourtellis, Co-Director of Telefónica Research and Head of Systems AI Lab at Telefónica Innovación Digital, a company of the Telefonica Group. Nicolas shares his expert insights on the pivotal role of AI in revolutionizing telecommunications, the challenges of AI regulation and the innovative strides Telefónica is making toward sustainable and ethical AI deployment. Imagine a world where every device you own not only connects seamlessly but also intelligently adapts to your needs. This isn’t just a vision for the future; it’s the reality AI is creating today in telecommunications.Key Takeaways:(00:00) AI research focuses and applications in telecommunications.(03:24) AI’s role in optimizing network systems and enhancing user privacy is critical.(06:00) How Telefónica uses AI to improve customer service through AI chatbots.(12:03) The ethical considerations and sustainability of AI models.(16:08) Democratizing AI to make it accessible and beneficial for all users.(18:09) Designing AI systems with privacy and security from the start.(27:00) The challenges and opportunities AI presents for the workforce.(30:25) The potential of 6G and its reliance on AI technologies.(32:16) The integral role of AI in future technological advancements and network optimizations.(39:35) The societal impacts of AI in telecommunications.Resources Mentioned:Nicolas Kourtellis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-kourtellis-3a154511/Telefónica Innovación Digital - https://www.linkedin.com/company/telefonica-innovacion-digital/Telefonica Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/telefonica/You can find all of Nicolas’ publications on his Google Scholar page: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Q5oWwiQAAAAJ Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

May 17, 2024 • 45min
Supporting Vulnerable Populations With AI-Driven Initiatives with Dr. Irina Mirkina of UNICEF
On this episode of the Regulating AI Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Irina Mirkina, Innovation Manager and AI Lead at UNICEF's Office of Innovation. An AI strategist, speaker, and expert for the European Commission, Dr. Mirkina brings a wealth of experience from academia, the private sector, and now, the humanitarian sector. Today’s discussion focuses on AI for social good.Key Takeaways:(03:31) The role of international organizations like UNICEF in shaping global AI regulations.(07:06) Challenges of democratizing AI across different regions to overcome the digital divide.(10:28) The importance of developing AI systems that cater to local contexts.(13:23) The transformative potential and limitations of AI in personalized education.(16:37) Engaging vulnerable populations directly in AI policy discussions.(20:47) UNICEF's use of AI in addressing humanitarian challenges.(25:10) The role of civil society in AI regulation and policymaking.(33:50) AI's risks and limitations, including issues of open-source management and societal impact.(38:57) The critical need for international collaboration and standardization in AI regulations.Resources Mentioned:Dr. Irina Mirkina - https://www.linkedin.com/in/irinamirkina/UNICEF Office of Innovation - https://www.unicef.org/innovation/Policy Guidance on AI for Children by UNICEF - https://www.unicef.org/globalinsight/media/2356/file/UNICEF-Global-Insight-policy-guidance-AI-children-2.0-2021.pdfThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

May 3, 2024 • 37min
Understanding the Role of Government and Big Tech in China’s AI Landscape with Angela Zhang
On this episode, I’m joined by Professor Angela Zhang, Associate Professor of Law at the University of Hong Kong and Director of the Philip K. H. Wong Center for Chinese Law. We delve into the complexities of AI regulation in China, exploring how the government’s strategies impact both the global market and internal policies.Key Takeaways:(02:14) The introduction of China’s approach to AI regulation.(06:40) Discussion on the volatile nature of Chinese regulatory processes.(10:26) How China’s AI strategy impacts international relations and global standards.(13:32) Angela explains the strategic use of law as an enabler in China’s AI development.(18:53) High-level talks between the US and China on AI risk have not led to substantive actions.(22:04) The US’s short-term gains from AI chip restrictions on China may lead to long-term disadvantages as China becomes self-sufficient and less cooperative.(24:13) Unintended consequences of the Chinese regulatory system.(29:19) Angela advocates for a slower development of AI technology to better assess and manage risks before they become unmanageable.Resources Mentioned:Professor Angela Zhang - http://www.angelazhang.netHigh Wire by Angela Zhang - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/high-wire-9780197682258Article: The Promise and Perils of China’s Regulation - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4708676Research: Generative AI and Copyright: A Dynamic Perspective - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4716233Research: The Promise and Perils of China's Regulation of Artificial Intelligence - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4708676Angela Zhang’s Website - https://www.angelazhang.net/High Wire Book Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6OPSit6k6sPurchase High Wire by Angela Zhang - https://www.amazon.com/High-Wire-Regulates-Governs-Economy/dp/0197682251/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A7D070KIAGT&keywords=high+wire+angela+zhang&qid=1706441967&sprefix=high+wire+angela+zha,aps,333&sr=8-1Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 30, 2024 • 40min
Advocating for Stronger AI Regulations To Safeguard Civil Liberties with Congressman Joseph Morelle
On this episode, I am thrilled to sit down with Congressman Joseph Morelle, who represents New York's 25th Congressional District and serves on the House Appropriations Committee. As an influential voice in the dialogue on artificial intelligence, Congressman Morelle shares his deep insights into AI's potential and challenges, particularly concerning legislation and societal impacts.Key Takeaways:(02:13) Congressman Morelle's extensive experience in AI legislation and its implications.(04:27) Deep fakes and their growing threat to privacy and integrity.(07:13) Introducing federal legislation against non-consensual deep fakes.(14:00) Urgent need for social media platforms to enforce their guidelines rigorously.(19:46) The No AI Fraud Act and protecting individual likeness in AI use.(23:06) The importance of adaptable and 'living' statutes in technology regulation.(32:59) The critical role of continuous education and skill adaptation in the AI era.(37:47) Exploring the use of AI in Congress to ensure unbiased, culturally appropriate policymaking and data privacy.Resources Mentioned:Congressman Joseph Morelle - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-morelle-8246099/No AI Fraud Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6943/text?s=1&r=9Preventing Deep Fakes of Intimate Images Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3106Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 24, 2024 • 55min
Empowering Innovators for a Brighter AI Tomorrow with Dr. Sethuraman Panchanathan
On this episode, I welcome Dr. Sethuraman Panchanathan, Director of the U.S. National Science Foundation and a professor at Arizona State University. Sethuraman shares personal insights on the transformative power of artificial intelligence and the importance of democratizing this technology to be sure it benefits humanity as a whole.Key Takeaways:(00:21) AI’s pivotal role in enhancing speech-language services.(01:28) Introduction to Sethuraman’s visionary leadership at NSF.(02:36) NSF’s significant AI investment totaled over $820 million.(06:19) The shift toward interdisciplinary AI research at NSF.(10:26) NSF’s initiative of launching 25 AI institutes for innovation.(18:26) Emphasis on AI democratization through education and training.(25:11) The NSF ExpandAI program boosts AI in minority-serving institutions.(30:21) Focus on ethical AI development to build public trust.(40:10) AI’s transformative applications in healthcare, agriculture and more.(42:45) The importance of ethical guardrails in AI’s development.(43:08) Advancing AI through international collaborations.(44:53) Lessons from a career in AI and advice for the next generation.(50:19) Motivating young researchers and entrepreneurs in AI.(52:24) Advocating for AI innovation and accessibility for everyone.Resources Mentioned:Dr. Sethuraman Panchanathan -https://www.linkedin.com/in/drpanch/U.S. National Science Foundation | LinkedIn -https://www.linkedin.com/company/national-science-foundation/U.S. National Science Foundation | Website -https://www.nsf.gov/Arizona State University -https://www.linkedin.com/school/arizona-state-university/ExpandAI Program -https://new.nsf.gov/funding/opportunities/expanding-ai-innovation-through-capacity-buildingDr. Sethuraman Panchanathan’s NSF Profile -https://www.nsf.gov/staff/staff_bio.jsp?lan=spanchanNSF Regional Innovation Engines -https://new.nsf.gov/funding/initiatives/regional-innovation-enginesNational AI Research Resource (NAIRR) -https://new.nsf.gov/focus-areas/artificial-intelligence/nairrNSF Focus on Artificial Intelligence -https://new.nsf.gov/focus-areas/artificial-intelligenceNSF AI Research Funding -https://new.nsf.gov/funding/opportunities/national-artificial-intelligence-researchGRANTED Initiative for Broadening Participation in STEM -https://new.nsf.gov/funding/initiatives/broadening-participation/grantedThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 23, 2024 • 33min
Evaluating the Effectiveness of AI Legislation in Cybersecurity with Bruce Schneier
The rapid evolution of artificial intelligence in cybersecurity presents both significant opportunities and daunting challenges. On this episode, I'm joined by Bruce Schneier, who is renowned globally for his expertise in cybersecurity and is dubbed a “security guru” by the Economist. Bruce, a best-selling author and lecturer at Harvard Kennedy School, discusses the fast-paced world of AI and cybersecurity, exploring how these technologies intersect with national security and what that means for future regulations.Key Takeaways:(00:00) I discuss with Bruce the challenges of regulating AI in the US.(02:28) Bruce explains the role and future potential of AI in cybersecurity.(05:05) The benefits of AI in defense, enhancing capabilities at computer speeds.(07:22) The need for robust regulations akin to those in the EU.(12:56) Bruce draws analogies between AI regulation and pharmaceutical controls.(19:56) The critical role of knowledgeable staff in supporting legislators.(22:24) The challenges of effectively regulating AI.(26:15) The potential of AI to transform enforcement across various sectors.(30:58) Reflections on the future of AI governance and ethical considerations.Resources Mentioned:Bruce Schneier Website - https://www.schneier.com/EU AI Strategy - https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/european-approach-artificial-intelligenceThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 19, 2024 • 42min
AI's Potential in Public Services with Trooper Sanders
On this episode, I’m joined by Trooper Sanders, CEO of Benefits Data Trust and a member of the White House National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee. Trooper’s expertise in leveraging AI to enhance the efficiency and humanity of America’s social safety net offers unique insights into the potential and challenges of AI in public services.Key Takeaways:(02:27) The role of Benefits Data Trust in connecting people to essential benefits using AI.(04:54) The components of trustworthy AI: reliability, public interest alignment, security, transparency, explainability, privacy and harm mitigation.(09:38) The ‘tortoise and hare’ challenge in aligning AI advancements with legislative processes.(16:17) The significance of voluntary industry commitments in shaping AI’s ethical use.(20:32) Ethical considerations in deploying AI, focusing on its societal impact and the readiness of systems for AI integration.(22:53) Addressing biases in AI to ensure fairness and equitable benefits across all socioeconomic groups.(27:52) Amplifying diverse voices in the AI discussion to encompass a wide range of societal perspectives.(34:22) The potential workforce disruption by AI and the necessity of supportive measures for affected individuals.(37:26) Considering the potentially massive impact of AI-driven career changes across various professions.Resources Mentioned:Trooper Sanders -https://www.linkedin.com/in/troopersanders/Benefits Data Trust | LinkedIn -https://www.linkedin.com/company/benefits-data-trust/Benefits Data Trust | Website -https://bdtrust.org/White House National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee -https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/ostps-teams/nstc/select-committee-on-artificial-intelligence/BDT Launches AI and Human Services Learning Hub -https://bdtrust.org/bdt-launches-ai-learning-lab/Our Vision for an Intelligent Human Services and Benefits Access System -https://bdtrust.org/our-vision-for-an-intelligent-human-services-and-benefits-access-systemHumans Must Control Human-Serving AI -https://bdtrust.org/media-coverage-humans-must-control-human-serving-ai/Trooper Sanders’ Bio -https://bdtrust.org/trooper-sanders/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 18, 2024 • 42min
The Impact of AI on Global Military Strategies with Dr. Paul Lushenko
I'm thrilled to be joined by Dr. Paul Lushenko, a Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Army and Director of Special Operations at the U.S. Army War College. Dr. Lushenko brings a wealth of knowledge from the front line of AI implementation in military strategy. He joins me to share his insights into the delicate balance between innovation and regulation.Key Takeaways:(02:28) The necessity of addressing AI’s impact on warfare and crisis escalation.(06:37) The gaps in global governance regarding AI and autonomous weapon systems.(08:30) U.S. policies on the responsible use of AI in military operations.(16:29) The importance of cutting-edge research in informing legislative actions on AI.(18:49) The risk of biases in AI systems used in national security.(20:09) Discussion on automation bias and its consequences in military operations.(32:49) Emphasis on the importance of careful management and extensive testing to build trust in AI systems within the military.(39:51) The critical need for data-driven decision-making in high-stakes environments, advocating for leveraging expert insights.(24:44) Dr. Lushenko argues for the adoption of a strategic framework to guide AI development in military contexts.Resources Mentioned:Dr. Paul Lushenko -https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-lushenko-phd-5b805113/U.S. Army War College -https://www.linkedin.com/school/united-states-army-war-college/Political Declaration on Responsible Use of AI in Military Technologies -https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Latest-Version-Political-Declaration-on-Responsible-Military-Use-of-AI-and-Autonomy.pdfMemorandum on Ethical Use of AI - White House 2023 -https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/M-24-10-Advancing-Governance-Innovation-and-Risk-Management-for-Agency-Use-of-Artificial-Intelligence.pdfThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Apr 1, 2024 • 37min
Harnessing AI for Equitable Education with Randi Weingarten, President of American Federation of Teachers
On this episode, I welcome Randi Weingarten, President of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT). She discusses why implementing AI in education requires a collaborative effort. Join us as we explore the challenges and opportunities of AI in shaping equitable and effective educational environments.Key Takeaways:(01:08) Introduction of Randi Weingarten and her role in the AFT.(05:00) The critical issue of ensuring equitable access to AI technologies in education.(08:06) Addressing bias and discrimination within AI-driven educational systems.(11:53) The importance of inclusive participation in the implementation of educational technologies.(13:09) The evolving necessity for educators to acquire new skills in response to AI advancements.(17:26) The role of personalized teaching as a complement, not a replacement, for traditional educational methods.(18:08) Concerns surrounding data privacy and security within AI-driven platforms.(20:25) The need for regulation and oversight in the application of AI in educational settings.(25:22) The potential for productive industry collaboration in developing AI tools for education.(30:28) Advocating for a just transition fund to support workers displaced by AI and technological advancements.Resources Mentioned:Randi Weingarten - https://www.linkedin.com/in/randi-weingarten-05896224/American Federation of Teachers - https://www.aft.org/Testimony to Senator Schumer by Randi Weingarten on equity in AI - https://www.aft.org/press-release/afts-weingarten-calls-ai-guardrails-smart-regulation-ensure-new-technology-benefitsBiden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard

Mar 26, 2024 • 25min
Crafting Effective AI Policies for National Security With Insights From Anja Manuel
AI regulation is not a simple field, particularly in the realm of national security, and it requires a nuanced approach. In this episode, I welcome Anja Manuel, the Executive Director of the Aspen Strategy Group and the Aspen Security Forum, as well as Co-Founder and Partner at Rice, Hadley, Gates & Manuel, LLC. Anja’s insights make the path forward clearer, framing effective AI legislation and emphasizing the need for global cooperation and ethical considerations. Her perspective, deeply rooted in national security expertise, underscores the critical balance between innovation and safeguarding against misuse.Key Takeaways:(00:17) The functionality of intelligence committees across party lines.(00:59) AI in warfare reflects a shift from World War I tactics to modern tech battles.(03:10) The rapid innovation in military technology and the US’s efforts to adapt.(03:53) Risks of unregulated AI, including in cyber, autonomous weapons and bio-tech.(07:09) AI regulation is needed both globally and nationally.(11:21) International collaboration plays a vital role in AI regulation.(13:39) Ethical considerations unique to AI applications in national security.(14:31) National security agencies’ openness to regulatory frameworks.(15:35) Public-private collaboration in addressing national security considerations.(17:08) Establishing standards in AI technology for national security is necessary.(18:28) Regulation of autonomous weapons and international agreements.(19:32) Balancing secrecy in national security operations with public scrutiny of AI use.(20:17) AI’s role and risks in intelligence and privacy.(21:13) Regulating AI in cybersecurity and other areas is a challenge.Resources Mentioned:Anja Manuel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anja-manuel-26805023/Aspen Strategy Group - https://www.aspeninstitute.org/programs/aspen-strategy-group/Aspen Security Forum - https://www.aspensecurityforum.org/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard


