

The Education Exchange
Paul E. Peterson
A weekly podcast highlighting education policy news, hosted by Paul E. Peterson, Senior editor of Education Next
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Jul 14, 2025 • 31min
Ep. 401 - July 14, 2025 - “Congress Swung for the Fences on School Choice and Hit a Single”
Robert Enlow, President and CEO of EdChoice, dives into the recent federal tax credit scholarship provision passed by Congress. He discusses its potential to help low- to moderate-income families access private education, while exploring its impacts on public schools. Enlow highlights the complexities of school choice, including political dynamics affecting approval processes and funding disparities across states. The discussion reveals both optimism and significant challenges regarding the accessibility and effectiveness of these new educational funding initiatives.

Jul 7, 2025 • 31min
Ep. 400 - July 7, 2025 - Magnet Schools: The Dark Horse of School Choice
Matthew Lenard, an assistant professor of education leadership and policy studies at Florida State University, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Lenard's latest research, which investigates the impact of magnet schools on student learning.
"The Attraction of Magnet Schools: Evidence from Embedded Lotteries in School Assignment," co-written with Umut Dur, Robert G. Hammond, Melinda Morrill, Thayer Morrill, and Colleen Paeplow, is available now as part of the Program on Education Policy and Governance Conference Papers Series.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Taubman/PEPG/research/PEPG25_15.pdf

Jun 30, 2025 • 29min
Ep. 399 - June 30, 2025 - Public School Enrollments Down 2 Percent Since 2020
"School Enrollment Shifts Five Years After the Pandemic," co-written with Abigail Francis, is available now.
https://wheelockpolicycenter.org/high-quality-education/school-enrollment-shifts-five-years-after-the-pandemic/

Jun 23, 2025 • 37min
Ep. 398 - June 23, 2025 - One Big Beautiful Tax Credit Scholarship?
Jim Blew, co-founder of the Defense of Freedom Institute, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss a school choice provision in H.R. 1, the U.S. House reconciliation bill that has moved to the U.S. Senate, and its potential impact on education.

Jun 16, 2025 • 28min
Ep. 397 - June 16, 2025 - The Illusion of Local Control of Schools
Vladimir Kogan, a Professor in the Department of Political Science at Ohio State University, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss a new report which finds that half of school board election races go uncontested and that incumbents are reelected more than 80 percent of the time when they run.
The report, "High Turnover with Low Accountability: Local School Board Elections in 16 States," co-written with Stéphane Lavertu and Zachary Peskowitz, is available here.
https://edworkingpapers.com/ai25-1213

Jun 9, 2025 • 36min
Ep. 396 - June 9, 2025 - Opportunity Knocked for Universal Vouchers in North Carolina, and Parents Answered
Anna J. Egalite, a Professor in the Department of Educational Leadership, Policy, and Human Development in the College of Education at North Carolina State University joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss how the Covid-19 pandemic has helped drive school choice in the state of North Carolina.

Jun 2, 2025 • 37min
Ep. 395 - June 2, 2025 - Public Broadly Supports School Choice Despite Persistent Partisan Gaps
Paul DiPerna, Vice President of Research and Innovation for EdChoice, dives into the shifting tides of public opinion on school choice. He discusses how support for vouchers and education savings accounts is rising, especially among minority communities. The podcast also compares polling methodologies and reveals surprising partisan divides in attitudes. DiPerna emphasizes regional differences and the role of messaging campaigns in shaping views, sparking a lively conversation on the future of educational options in America.

May 27, 2025 • 26min
Ep. 394 - May 27, 2025 - Who Are the Homeschoolers?
Angela R. Watson, a senior research fellow at the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy, dives into the evolving world of homeschooling. She highlights the growth from 3% to 7% participation, revealing surprising demographics that challenge common stereotypes. Discussions include how state laws affect homeschooling rates, the significance of Education Savings Accounts, and parents’ unique definitions of success that often prioritize outcomes beyond traditional college pathways. Watson's insights paint a comprehensive picture of this dynamic educational landscape.

May 19, 2025 • 49min
Ep. 393 - May 19, 2025 - Blacks Progressed More Rapidly Before Affirmative Action than Since
Jason Riley, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a columnist for the Wall Street Journal, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Riley’s new book, The Affirmative Action Myth: Why Blacks Don't Need Racial Preferences to Succeed.

May 12, 2025 • 28min
Ep. 392 - May 12, 2025 - Can Vouchers Forge Pathways to College?
David Figlio, the Gordon Fyfe Professor of Economics and Education at the University of Rochester, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Figlio's latest report, which investigates the effects of a Ohio school voucher program on student college success.
The Effects of Ohio’s EdChoice Voucher Program on College Enrollment and Graduation, co-written with Matthew Chingos and Krzysztof Karbownik, is available now.
https://www.urban.org/research/publication/effects-ohios-edchoice-voucher-program-college-enrollment-and-graduation