

The Education Gadfly Show
Thomas B. Fordham Institute
For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.
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Nov 16, 2022 • 27min
Education Gadfly Show #846: What do the midterm elections mean for the parents’ rights movement?
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Virginia Gentles, the director of the Education Freedom Center at the Independent Women’s Forum, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the results of the 2022 midterm elections and what they mean for the parents’ rights movement. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study that finds that students from under-resourced schools perform worse on computer-based tests than on traditional paper ones. Recommended content: “School Board Candidates Who Pushed ‘Parental Rights’ See Mixed Results” —Wall Street Journal “Still the Ones to Beat: Teachers’ Unions and School Board Elections” —Michael Hartney “DeSantis, conservatives score more Florida school board wins” —Politico The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: John Gordanier et al., “Pencils Down? Computerized Testing and Student Achievement,” Education Finance and Policy (Oct 2022).Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producer Nathaniel Grossman at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org.

Nov 9, 2022 • 38min
Education Gadfly Show #845: Why schools are wasting millions of dollars on ineffective online tutoring
Education Gadfly Show #845: Why schools are wasting millions of dollars on ineffective online tutoring On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Bart Epstein, the president and CEO of EdTech Evidence Exchange, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the challenges that schools and districts face when implementing online “on-demand” tutoring programs for students. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study that examines the effects of state-mandated civics tests on youth voter turnout. Recommended content:Bart's organization: EdTech Evidence ExchangeThe narrow path to doing it right: Evidence from vaccine making for high-dosage tutoring —Mike Goldstein and Bowen Paulle"Many schools are buying on-demand tutoring but a study finds that few students are using it" —The Hechinger ReportThe study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Jung, Jilli, and Gopalan, Maithreyi, "The Stubborn Unresponsiveness of Youth Voter Turnout to Civic Education: Quasi-experimental Evidence from State-Mandated Civics Tests," Retrieved from Annenberg Institute at Brown University (Nov 2022) Feedback Welcome:Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producer, Nathaniel Grossman, at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org.

Nov 1, 2022 • 24min
Education Gadfly Show #844: An ode to overly-optimistic teachers, with Seth Gershenson
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Mike Petrilli and David Griffith are joined by Seth Gershenson—professor at the Department of Public Administration and Policy at American University and the author of Fordham’s new report, High Expectations in District and Charter Schools—to discuss its findings and why high teacher expectations translate into better outcomes for kids. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study that examines teachers’ contributions to school climate and how it varies by student race and ethnicity. Recommended content: · Fordham’s new study by Seth Gershenson: “High Expectations in District and Charter Schools.”· The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Benjamin Backes et al., Teachers and School Climate: Effects on Student Outcomes and Academic Disparities, CALDER Working Paper (October 2022). Feedback welcome!Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org

Oct 25, 2022 • 29min
Education Gadfly Show #843: Halloween a week early with NAEP results in
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Checker Finn joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the 2022 NAEP results. Then on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study that examines how instructional time differs between countries and offers suggestions on how U.S. schools can recover learning time lost to the pandemic. Recommended content[BW1] : · The 2022 NAEP results.· Checker Finn’s recent book about NAEP: “Assessing the Nation’s Report Card: Challenges and Choices for NAEP” (May 2022). · The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Matthew A. Kraft and Sarah Novicoff: “Instructional Time in U.S. Public Schools: Wide Variation, Causal Effects, and Lost Hours,” Annenberg Institute at Brown University (September 2022). Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org [BW1]Should add mike and checker’s op-eds tomorrow after they’re published. Once Gadfly goes out, Lilly, please do so.

Oct 18, 2022 • 19min
#842: Industry-recognized credentials aren’t living up to their potential
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Quentin Suffren, Senior Advisor of Innovation Policy for ExcelinEd, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss industry-recognized credentials and why their impact has been muted so far. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study that examines how college graduates’ earnings are influenced by the performance of their schools’ football teams. Recommended content: · Quentin’s recent Fordham article: “Credentials matter, but pathways matter more,” September 2022, which summarized the findings from “Credentials Matter,” a website created by ExcelinEd and Burning Glass Technologies.· Our report on IRCs: Matt Giani, “How Attaining Industry-Recognized Credentials in High School Shapes Education and Employment Outcomes,” Thomas B. Fordham Institute (August 2022). · The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Monica Harber Carney, “College Football Performance, Student Earnings, and the Gender Wage Gap,” Education Finance and Policy (September 2022).

Oct 12, 2022 • 25min
Education Gadfly Show #841: Good news for a change: Most states appear to be spending their ESSER dollars wisely
On This week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Carissa Miller, CEO of the Council of Chief State School Officers, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss how state education agencies are spending the 10 percent of ESSER funds set aside for them. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews a study on how providing information about the likely financial outcomes of college and career paths affects high schoolers’ choices. Recommended content: · CCSSO’s analysis of how the relief dollars are being spent: “States Leading: How State Education Agencies are Leveraging the ESSER Set-Aside,” August 2022; and an accompanying webinar. · The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Gabriele Ballarino et al., “The effects of an information campaign beyond university enrolment: A large-scale field experiment on the choices of high school students,” Economics of Education Review (December 2022). Feedback welcome! Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org

Oct 5, 2022 • 22min
Education Gadfly Show #840: The state of state education reform
On this week’s Education Show podcast, Jennifer Alexander, Executive Director of the Policy Innovators in Education (PIE) Network, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss recent state-level education reform victories, including Tennessee’s school funding overhaul and Illinois’s new charter facilities financing law . Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a study that examines the impact family structure has had on student achievement and discipline over time. Recommended Content: PIE Network’s 2022 Eddie Awards Nominees: “Game Changer Campaign of the Year,” (August 2022). The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Nicholas Zill and Bradford Wilcox, “Strong Families, Better Student Performance: The More Things Change, the More They Remain the Same,” Institute for Family Studies (August 2022)Jeff Murray’s Fordham Institute review of Zill and Bradford’s study: “Family structure and academic outcomes,” (September 6, 2022). Feedback Welcome!Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org

Sep 28, 2022 • 25min
#839: Do “for-profit” charter schools deserve their bad reputation?
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Mike Petrilli and David Griffith are joined by Stéphane Lavertu and Long Tran, both professors at the John Glenn College of Public Affairs at the Ohio State University and the authors of Fordham’s new report, For-Profit Charter Schools: An evaluation of their spending and outcomes. They discuss findings from their new study and broader issues of so-called “for-profit” charter schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern reviews an ambitious study that examines closure and restructuring rates in district, charter, and private schools nationwide. Recommended content: · Fordham’s new study: Stéphane Lavertu and Long Tran, “For-Profit Charter Schools: An evaluation of their spending and outcomes,” Thomas B. Fordham Institute (September 2022). · The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Douglas N. Harris and Valentina Martinez-Pabon, “Extreme Measures: A National Descriptive Analysis of Closure and Restructuring of Traditional Public, Charter, and Private Schools,” Education Finance and Policy (2022). Feedback Welcome!Have ideas on our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org

Sep 21, 2022 • 28min
#838: Was the charter sector too slow to reopen schools for in-person learning?
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Karega Rausch, President and CEO of the National Association of Charter School Authorizers, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss what—if anything—charter schools could have done to reopen sooner during the 2020-21 school year. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses the long-term impacts of requiring high school seniors to pass a science test to graduate. Recommended Content: · Karega’s essay for The 74: “High-Quality Charter Schools Can Help Drive Student Recovery from COVID — If They’re Allowed to Grow and Expand” (April 2022). · Marc Porter Magee on the devastating learning loss of DC’s charter schools: “The New Reality Roundup | Week 132,” (September 2022)· The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Ann Mantil, John Papay, Preeya Pandya Mbekeani, and Richard J. Murnane, “Increasing High School Students’ Preparation and Interest in STEM Fields: Does a Graduation Requirement Make a Difference?” Retrieved from Annenberg Institute at Brown University (September 2022) Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org.

Sep 14, 2022 • 27min
#837: Re-stating education: Not as modest as it sounds!
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show Podcast, Elliot Regenstein joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss his new book, which calls for changes in three areas of education policy: accountability, teacher pay, and school choice. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a paper that identifies common transportation challenges for cities with lots of charter schools and other forms of school choice. Recommended content: · Elliot’s new book: Education Restated: Getting Policy Right on Accountability, Teacher Pay, and School Choice(Rowman & Littlefield, August 2022). · Amber’s article that she reviewed on the Research Minute: Carolyn Sattin-Bajaj, “Student Transportation in Choice-Rich Districts: Implementation Challenges and Responses,” Education Finance and Policy (April 2022).Feedback Welcome!Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our podcast producers Nathaniel Grossman and Lilly Sibel at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org and lsibel@fordhaminstitue.org