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The Space InBetween
Welcome to the Brave UX with Brendan Jarvis podcast, your go-to destination for exploring the intersection of UX research, design, and product. Do you share a passion for developing and launching products that deliver superior and ethical experiences? If so, join your host, Brendan Jarvis, as he talks to industry and thought leaders in UX, product management, and product design. Get inspired and informed, and challenge yourself to become a better leader and think outside the canvas, both in what you do and occasionally in who you are.
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Sep 2, 2025 • 1h 6min
Jake Burghardt - Stop Wasting Research
Jake Burghardt explores why so much research goes unused , why timing matters more than tools , and how to transform insights into real impact for teams and strategy .
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why Careers Shouldn’t Hinge on One Team
00:30 – Welcome and Introduction
01:27 – Jake’s Work at Amazon and the Intersection of Ops
03:00 – Early Days: Patents, Psychology, and Consulting Work
05:46 – Becoming a Generalist Across Disciplines
08:05 – The Rise of Research, Design, and Product Ops
10:12 – Writing Stop Wasting Research and the Story Behind the Title
13:45 – Timing Research to Influence Planning Cycles
16:52 – Who Can Reduce Research Waste in Large Orgs?
21:14 – Root Causes of Research Waste: Preparation, Motivation, Integration
27:09 – The Challenge of Prioritising Insights
31:30 – What Competitors Would Pay to Know You Forgot
36:32 – Tools, Repositories, and Making Insights Stick
42:00 – Practical Ways to Promote Overlooked Insights
1:03:00 – Closing Reflections and Where to Find Jake
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Who is Jake Burghardt?
Jake Burghardt is a veteran of the research, product, and design worlds, helping organisations close the gap between what they know and what they act on. His upcoming book, *Stop Wasting Research*, offers a new framework for turning insights into action.
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Find Jake Burghardt here:
LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakeburghardt/
Blog → https://medium.com/integrating-research
Newsletter → https://www.integratingresearch.com/newsletter
Book: Stop Wasting Research → https://www.integratingresearch.com/#book
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Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 9min
Ehab Bandar - Designing a Life of Creative Freedom
Ehab Bandar shares why creative freedom, curiosity, and human connection matter more than ever in design — exploring how resilience, adaptability, and gratitude shape a lasting career in UX .
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Designing with First Principles in Mind
00:45 – Welcome and Introduction
02:10 – Meet Ehab Bandar
04:20 – From Architecture to Design Strategy
07:05 – Founding Big Tomorrow and Its Mission
10:40 – Learning from Corporate Clients and Early Struggles
14:00 – Why Culture Shapes Every Design Decision
17:45 – Balancing Human Needs and Business Demands
22:18 – The Role of Design in Tackling Climate Change
27:00 – Shifting From Growth at All Costs to Responsible Growth
31:42 – Why Designers Must Think Like Futurists
36:15 – Systemic Design and the Power of Long-Term Thinking
41:00 – Teaching Organizations to See the Bigger Picture
46:20 – Why Leadership Needs a Broader Design Lens
52:05 – Building Resilience in Times of Uncertainty
57:30 – Closing Reflections and Where to Find Ehab
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Who is Ehab Bandar?
Ehab Bandar is a seasoned UX design leader and independent consultant whose career spans fintech, real estate, hospitality, and beyond .
He has:
Led design teams for clients like Airbnb and Charles Schwab
Founded Bigtable, a design and innovation consulting firm
Shared insights through *The Experience Architect* newsletter
Taught graduate design courses at the Academy of Art University
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Find Ehab Bandar here:
LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehabbandar/
Bigtable → https://bigtable.co/
Website → https://www.ehabbandar.com/
Substack → https://ehabbandar.substack.com/
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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 13min
Chetana Deorah - From Silicon Valley to Soulful Design
Chetana Deorah explores what it means to step off the career treadmill , rediscover creativity beyond metrics , and build a life rooted in connection, community, and courage —sharing why the most meaningful design often begins within .
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Growing Up in a Sheltered Business Family
00:30 – Welcome and Introduction
02:11 – Meet Chetana Deorah
03:24 – Opening with a Poem by Sri Aurobindo
04:30 – Leaving Silicon Valley and Returning to India
07:30 – Life and Purpose in Auroville
12:00 – Yoga as Union, Not Just Asana
13:34 – Leaving India to Resist Cultural Norms
17:38 – The Marriage Path She Refused
20:16 – Her Father’s Rebellious Influence and Strength
25:00 – Seeing India Change While Living Abroad
29:00 – Asking: “Is There Another Ladder to Climb?”
33:01 – From Busyness to Learning How to Do Nothing
42:54 – Creativity and Community Projects in Auroville
50:00 – Rethinking Money, Growth, and Human Unity
57:30 – Lessons From Silicon Valley on Bravery and Growth
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Who is Chetana Deorah?
Chetana Deorah is a seasoned design leader, educator, and community builder whose career bridges tech, creativity, and social impact .
She has:
Led product design at Netflix, Scribd, Yahoo, Pivotal Labs, and Pentagram
Shaped global digital experiences for hundreds of millions of users
Founded community projects in India focused on art, sustainability, and human connection
Chosen a new path outside Silicon Valley to explore soulful, human-centered design
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chetanadeorah/
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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 2min
Thomas Girard – Finding Creativity in Unexpected Places
Thomas Girard brings a thoughtful lens to design, creativity, and resilience 🌍 — sharing why processes matter 🧠, and how the quiet work of reflection can shape the future of design 🚀.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why Design’s Processes Still Matter
00:30 – Welcome and Introduction
02:09 – Meet Thomas Girard
04:19 – Family Legacy, Photography, and Airports as “Non-Places”
07:33 – Cultural Similarities and Craving the Familiar
11:38 – Cities That Shaped Thomas’s Design Perspective
12:24 – Preparing for and Delivering a Two-Minute TED Talk
17:04 – Listening to Yourself While Public Speaking
19:00 – Overcoming Stage Fright and Speaking as an Introvert
21:30 – Breaking Out of the Design Echo Chamber
23:03 – The Strengths and Future of Design Education
27:00 – Pairing Design and AI Without Losing the Human Lens
33:07 – Low-Fidelity Prototyping Through Conversation
35:00 – Launching and Growing the Unique Ways Podcast
50:24 – Life or Death Typography and Teaching Students to See Type
57:30 – What Designers Must Not Lose as the Field Evolves
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Who is Thomas Girard?
Thomas Girard is a design educator, writer, and speaker whose work bridges creativity, innovation, and resilience 🌍.
He has:
✅ Delivered keynotes at UXIndia and Sorbonne University
✅ Earned multiple Emerging Scholar awards for his contributions to design
✅ Authored the memoir Son of Greg Girard
✅ Built UNIQUEWAYS, a podcast uncovering different perspectives on success and creativity
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Find Thomas Girard here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/onthomas/
Podcast: https://uniqueways.ca
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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 9min
Theresa Neil – Designing Healthcare That Actually Cares
Theresa Neil is reshaping the future of healthcare 🚀, challenging outdated systems 🧠, and championing women’s health innovation when it’s needed most 🌍 — reminding us that the stakes in design have never been higher ❤️.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work in Healthcare
01:00 – Welcome and Introduction
02:11 – Meet Theresa Neil
03:03 – From Chef to UX Designer
05:22 – Early UX Work at Sabre and Founding Guidea
14:09 – Building a Woman-Led Company
15:43 – Becoming a Feminist Through Women’s Health Work
22:30 – Cultural Discomfort Around Menopause and Women’s Health
28:47 – Postpartum Innovation and Investor Blindness
33:00 – Research Gaps in Women’s Health Trials
37:51 – Why Female Health Remains Taboo
40:08 – Political Forces and Women’s Healthcare Access
43:18 – Spite Tracking and Patient Advocacy
50:15 – When Clients Don’t Want to Hear UX Research
58:00 – Why Healthcare Still Isn’t Patient-Centric
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Who is Theresa Neil?
Theresa Neil is the Founder of Guidea, an award-winning, women-owned and led product design firm specialising in medtech and digital health innovation 🚀.
She has:
Led UX for companies like Roche, Johnson & Johnson, and Cigna
Designed digital health solutions impacting over a billion users worldwide
Launched Femovate, a femtech incubator supporting 28 product launches and 14 clinical trials
Helped startups secure over $100 million in funding
Advocated globally for inclusive design and women's health innovation
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Find Theresa Neil here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresaneil/
Website: https://www.guidea.co/
Femovate: https://www.femovate.com/
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
Jennifer Speciale – Designing the Career You Actually Want
Jennifer Speciale helps leaders rewrite the rules of career growth 🚀, redefine executive presence 🧠, and build unapologetic clarity in an uncertain market 🌍—sharing why designing your career is the ultimate act of leadership 🎯.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why Candidates Should See Themselves as the Prize
00:43 – Welcome and Introduction
01:15 – Meet Jennifer Speciale
03:15 – Life in Florence and Sicilian Roots
10:30 – Myth, Beauty, and Strong Women in History
16:05 – From Corporate Leadership to Coaching Executives
19:23 – Helping Design Leaders Define Success
25:18 – Finding Options After Layoffs
29:00 – Reframing LinkedIn as a Marketing Tool
32:05 – What Recruiters Really Look for on LinkedIn
36:05 – Why Job Descriptions Are Intentionally Vague
42:32 – The Danger of a Bad Interview on Your Record
45:39 – Building Relationships Through Outreach
50:05 – Turning Interviews into Conversations
56:47 – Believing You Are the Prize
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Who is Jennifer Speciale?
Jennifer Speciale is the Founder and Executive Leadership Coach at Speciale Executive Leadership, helping ambitious leaders transition into executive roles and unlock new opportunities 🚀.
She has:
Led executive recruiting for design at Amazon
Built a global Experience Design team at McKinsey
Helped leaders at Google, Amazon, and McKinsey land executive roles
Coached over 100 leaders into executive positions, delivering over half a million dollars in salary growth in 2024 ✨
Through her proven frameworks, she’s changing the way leaders navigate executive transitions.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferspeciale/
Website: https://www.jenniferspeciale.com
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 13min
Dave Hoffer – Empathy, Courage, and the Future of Design
Dave Hoffer shares why design demands empathy 🧠, courage 🛡️, and long-term thinking 🌱—and how amplifying others can transform leadership in uncertain times 🚀.
He explores design’s shifting role in business, the disruptive rise of AI, and why resilience and critique will shape the future of design.
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Episode Chapters
00:00 – Why Empathy Matters in Design
01:02 – Introducing Dave Hoffer
03:17 – Amplifying Others Over Self
05:00 – Layoffs, Resilience, and Mission-Driven Work
12:12 – Hope and Long-Term Thinking in Design
14:20 – Courage, Critique, and Speaking Truth to Power
17:24 – Design Under Pressure and the AI Disruption
22:20 – Why Designers Must Experiment With AI Tools
31:30 – Lessons from Kasparov on Humans + Machines
33:00 – Spectral Thinking and Understanding People on a Spectrum
37:11 – The Hard Cost of Empathy in Design
42:05 – Why Executives Need Firsthand Empathy
50:30 – Empathy, Judgment, and Learning from Outliers
58:13 – Physical Labor and Shifts in Perspective
1:04:00 – Think Like a Gardener, Not an Architect
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Who is Dave Hoffer?
Dave Hoffer is a seasoned design leader and strategist whose career spans product design, digital innovation, and design transformation 🌎.
He has:
Led design teams at Frog Design, PwC, and McKinsey & Company
Grown McKinsey’s global design practice from a handful of designers to hundreds 📈
Brought design strategy into the heart of business and policy change
Advised mission-driven organisations like Safe Kids AI 👨👩👧👦
Advocated for amplifying others and championing empathy and critique as foundations for impactful leadership ✨
Today, Dave advises organisations as an independent consultant, helping them embed human-centered design practices into strategy and transformation initiatives.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-hoffer/
Website: https://www.mpqd.com/
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May 27, 2025 • 59min
Josephine Wong – Making Meaningful Work
Josephine Wong challenges us to design with intention, build cultures that care, and recognise the quiet power of everyday interactions to create truly meaningful work.
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Episode chapters
00:00 – Curiosity, Systems Thinking, and Adding Value
00:30 – Welcome and Introduction
01:13 – Meet Josephine (Jo) Wong
03:27 – Starting in Advertising and Early Career Lessons
05:44 – Multicultural Roots and Open-Mindedness in Research
09:00 – Studying in Melbourne and Founding Apogee
13:00 – Building a Life and Business Partnership With Dan
14:12 – Interest in Political and Economic Systems
18:29 – Why Intention Matters in Research Conversations
22:00 – Inspiration From Deng Xiaoping and China’s Transformation
27:58 – East Meets West: Finding Common Ground in Hong Kong
33:54 – Make Meaningful Work and Creating Culture Through Interactions
39:15 – Sparkle Studio: Teaching Kids Human Skills
50:54 – A Second Book in the Works and Who It’s For
56:33 – The Contribution Question and Closing Reflections
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Who is Josephine Wong?
Josephine Wong is a co-founder and principal at Apogee, a pioneering user experience consultancy founded in 1998 with a vision to bring human-centred design to Hong Kong and the wider region. Over the past 25 years, Apogee has played a significant role in advancing UX across Asia.
She’s also the co-founder of Make Meaningful Work, a studio and learning platform helping people unlock their potential by focusing on meaningful work in environments where they can learn, improve, and thrive together.
If that wasn’t enough, Jo is also the co-founder of UX Hong Kong, an annual learning event that brings together passionate practitioners from across product and service design to explore and celebrate exceptional experience creation.
A committed and influential contributor to our field, Jo has shared her expertise on global platforms including Beat Camp, We Can Do Better, the Reorient podcast, and UXpod.
Her work is deeply informed by her multicultural upbringing and global perspective, allowing her to bridge cultural nuance and inspire designers and researchers around the world.
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Find Josephine here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephine-wong-6801922/
X: https://x.com/igiwong
Apogee: https://www.apogeehk.com/
Make Meaningful Work: https://www.makemeaningfulwork.com/
UX Hong Kong: https://uxhongkong.com/
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May 13, 2025 • 1h 18min
Roberta Dombrowski – Redefining Leadership and Thriving at Work
Roberta Dombrowski invites us to rethink success, tune into our intuition, and lead with intention —sharing how mindfulness, healing, and self-compassion can transform the way we work and live.
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Episode chapters
00:00 – Defining Success on Your Own Terms
00:30 – Welcome and Introduction
01:17 – Meet Roberta Dombrowski
04:25 – Growing Up as a Transracial Adoptee
09:04 – Reading Other Adoptees’ Stories and Finding Comfort
13:42 – Owning Her Story and Entering a Healing Phase
14:30 – A Restless Career Journey in Learning, Research, and Coaching
20:00 – An Anxiety Injury and Learning to Slow Down
23:00 – Family Influences, Perception, and Letting Go of Control
26:18 – Founding Learn Mindfully and Levelling the Playing Field
31:00 – Coaching as Gardening: Planting Seeds and Managing Weeds
36:30 – Helping Clients Face Their Inner Critic and Emotions
42:30 – Challenges Researchers Face: Stress, Layoffs, and Recognition
50:30 – Work, Burnout, and the Shadow Side of Empathy
57:30 – Intuition, Listening to the Body, and Trusting Your Gut
1:10:30 – Closing Reflections: Curiosity, Fun, and Reconnecting With Joy
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Who is Roberta Dombrowski?
Roberta Dombrowski is a certified leadership coach and experience strategist, dedicated to transforming the way people live, learn, and work.
She is the founder of Learn Mindfully, a coaching and training company she launched in 2022. Since then, Roberta has supported hundreds of leaders from companies such as Adobe, Instacart, ServiceNow, Zapier, and Zoom.
Previously, Roberta was a Research Partner at Maze, where she helped clients maximize the platform’s potential. Before that, she was VP of User Research at User Interviews, where she built and scaled the research function while tackling the meta-challenge of researching researchers.
Roberta is also the author of Consciously Crafting Your Career Path, a self-reflection and career planning workbook designed to help people shape fulfilling and intentional careers. Her insights have been featured on podcasts like Lead the People and BLOC, and at events such as Rosenfeld Media’s Advancing Research conference.
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Find Roberta here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertadombrowski/
Company website: https://learnmindfully.co/
Personal website: https://robertalearns.com/
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Apr 29, 2025 • 49min
Gloria Osardu - Slowing Down to See the System
Gloria Osardu, Senior Director and Global Head of UX Research at Yahoo, emphasizes the power of slowing down in research to foster meaningful insights. She shares how her journey from Ghana shapes her empathetic approach to leadership and the importance of perspective in technology adoption. The discussion dives into aligning research with business goals and the significance of asking the right questions. By promoting collaboration and understanding stakeholder dynamics, Gloria highlights how these elements can drive impactful change in organizations.