

Brave UX with Brendan Jarvis 🇺🇦
The Space InBetween
Welcome to the Brave UX with Brendan Jarvis podcast, your go-to destination for exploring the intersection of UX research, design, and product. Do you share a passion for developing and launching products that deliver superior and ethical experiences? If so, join your host, Brendan Jarvis, as he talks to industry and thought leaders in UX, product management, and product design. Get inspired and informed, and challenge yourself to become a better leader and think outside the canvas, both in what you do and occasionally in who you are.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 2min
Thomas Girard – Finding Creativity in Unexpected Places
Thomas Girard brings a thoughtful lens to design, creativity, and resilience 🌍 — sharing why processes matter 🧠, and how the quiet work of reflection can shape the future of design 🚀.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – The Processes and Methods Around Design
02:26 – How Living Internationally Shaped Thomas’s Design Lens
05:03 – Growing Up with Photographer Greg Girard
06:49 – Why Airports Feel Like Home
12:50 – Preparing for a Two-Minute TEDx Talk
19:21 – Advice for First-Time Public Speakers
23:39 – The Strength of Design Education Today
26:38 – How Design Continues Despite Tech Layoffs
28:43 – Can Designers and AI Coexist?
35:22 – Lessons from Running 200+ Podcast Episodes
48:53 – Life or Death Typography: Why It Matters
58:58 – Beliefs That Changed Over a Career
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Who is Thomas Girard?
Thomas Girard is a design educator, writer, and speaker whose work bridges creativity, innovation, and resilience 🌍.
He has:
✅ Delivered keynotes at UXIndia and Sorbonne University
✅ Earned multiple Emerging Scholar awards for his contributions to design
✅ Authored the memoir Son of Greg Girard
✅ Built UNIQUEWAYS, a podcast uncovering different perspectives on success and creativity
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/onthomas/
Podcast: https://uniqueways.ca
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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 9min
Theresa Neil – Designing Healthcare That Actually Cares
Theresa Neil is reshaping the future of healthcare 🚀, challenging outdated systems 🧠, and championing women’s health innovation when it’s needed most 🌍 — reminding us that the stakes in design have never been higher ❤️.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why You Can’t "Move Fast and Break Things" in Healthcare
01:15 – Welcome and Introduction
03:03 – From Sous Chef to UX Designer
04:55 – Early Lessons in Tech and Gender Bias
05:22 – Mentorship and the Start of a UX Career
08:41 – Designing Airline Kiosks (Sorry!)
10:47 – Founding Guidea and Finding Her Differentiator
14:09 – Becoming a Women-Owned and Led Company
15:43 – On Becoming a Feminist (and Why It Matters)
17:55 – Calling Out Oprah’s Menopause Awards
23:38 – Why Menopause and Women’s Health Remain Taboo
27:40 – How Sexism Shows Up in Femtech Investment
32:35 – Why VCs Might Not Save Femtech
37:33 – Lioness: Building a Smart Vibrator for Data
43:47 – Empowering Women Through "Spite Tracking"
48:53 – Fighting Medical Gaslighting with Data
51:08 – Redesigning Healthcare Experiences with Empathy
56:57 – Why Patient-Centric Design Is Still Missing
59:55 – Designing for Accessibility and Dignity
1:04:09 – Industrial Design + UX: A Match Made in Medtech
1:05:19 – Why Theresa Believes in the Power of Collective Stories
1:08:14 – Where to Find Theresa
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Who is Theresa Neil?
Theresa Neil is the Founder of Guidea, an award-winning, women-owned and led product design firm specialising in medtech and digital health innovation 🚀.
She has:
Led UX for companies like Roche, Johnson & Johnson, and Cigna
Designed digital health solutions impacting over a billion users worldwide
Launched Femovate, a femtech incubator supporting 28 product launches and 14 clinical trials
Helped startups secure over $100 million in funding
Advocated globally for inclusive design and women's health innovation
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresaneil/
Website: https://www.guidea.co/
Femovate: https://www.femovate.com/
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
Jennifer Speciale – Designing the Career You Actually Want
Jennifer Speciale helps leaders rewrite the rules of career growth 🚀, redefine executive presence 🧠, and build unapologetic clarity in an uncertain market 🌍—sharing why designing your career is the ultimate act of leadership 🎯.
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Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Why You Are the Prize
01:15 – Welcome and Introduction
03:12 – Living in Italy and Training for a Marathon
06:45 – Discovering Sicilian Roots and the Aeolian Islands
13:25 – Learning from Strong Women in Italian History
16:32 – Coaching Leaders Through Career Crossroads
19:55 – Why "Open-Minded" Job Searches Fail
26:29 – Helping Leaders Find Hidden Career Options
30:11 – Rebranding LinkedIn for Strategic Career Moves
33:24 – What Recruiters Really Look for on LinkedIn
37:02 – Why Job Descriptions Are Designed to Be Vague
42:32 – The Hidden Risks of a Bad Interview
47:19 – Using Flattery Authentically in Networking
51:36 – Flipping Interviews into Conversations
56:47 – Believing You Are the Prize (Without Arrogance)
1:01:13 – How to Stop Over-Apologizing in Interviews
1:03:05 – Closing Reflections and Where to Find Jennifer
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Who is Jennifer Speciale?
Jennifer Speciale is the Founder and Executive Leadership Coach at Speciale Executive Leadership, helping ambitious leaders transition into executive roles and unlock new opportunities 🚀.
She has:
Led executive recruiting for design at Amazon
Built a global Experience Design team at McKinsey
Helped leaders at Google, Amazon, and McKinsey land executive roles
Coached over 100 leaders into executive positions, delivering over half a million dollars in salary growth in 2024 ✨
Through her proven frameworks, she’s changing the way leaders navigate executive transitions.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferspeciale/
Website: https://www.jenniferspeciale.com
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 13min
Dave Hoffer – Empathy, Courage, and the Future of Design
Dave Hoffer shares why design demands empathy 🧠, courage 🛡️, and long-term thinking 🌱—and how amplifying others can transform leadership in uncertain times 🚀.
He explores design’s shifting role in business, the disruptive rise of AI, and why resilience and critique will shape the future of design.
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Episode Chapters
00:00 – Welcome and Introduction
04:42 – Dave’s Instinct to Amplify Others Over Himself
08:36 – Weathering Layoffs and the Power of Staying the Course
12:43 – From Personal Crisis to Mission-Driven Work
17:24 – Why Hope and Long-Term Thinking Matter in Design
21:24 – Courage, Critique, and Speaking Truth to Power
24:20 – Design’s Role in Policy and Sustainability
28:17 – Is UX Dead? Navigating the AI Disruption
32:35 – Spectral Thinking: Understanding the Human Spectrum
37:11 – The Hard Cost of Empathy in Design
42:05 – Why Executives Must Experience Real Empathy
48:13 – Empathy, Judgment, and Learning from Outliers
54:10 – What Research with Outliers Teaches Us
58:13 – How Physical Labor (Like Bricklaying) Changes Perspective
1:04:09 – Think Like a Gardener, Not an Architect
1:07:00 – Why Design’s Work Isn’t Done Yet
1:10:54 – Taste, Design Leadership, and Meeting Halfway
1:11:57 – Closing Reflections and Where to Find Dave
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Who is Dave Hoffer?
Dave Hoffer is a seasoned design leader and strategist whose career spans product design, digital innovation, and design transformation 🌎.
He has:
Led design teams at Frog Design, PwC, and McKinsey & Company
Grown McKinsey’s global design practice from a handful of designers to hundreds 📈
Brought design strategy into the heart of business and policy change
Advised mission-driven organisations like Safe Kids AI 👨👩👧👦
Advocated for amplifying others and championing empathy and critique as foundations for impactful leadership ✨
Today, Dave advises organisations as an independent consultant, helping them embed human-centered design practices into strategy and transformation initiatives.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-hoffer/
Website: https://www.mpqd.com/
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May 27, 2025 • 59min
Josephine Wong – Making Meaningful Work
Josephine Wong challenges us to design with intention, build cultures that care, and recognise the quiet power of everyday interactions to create truly meaningful work.
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Episode chapters
00:00 – Welcome and Introduction
04:42 – Jo’s Unexpected Start in Advertising
09:26 – A Multicultural Upbringing in Hong Kong
14:18 – From Melbourne to Apogee: Founding a UX Consultancy
21:35 – Building a Life and Business Partnership with Dan Szuc
26:04 – Understanding Systems: Politics, Economics, and Research
33:50 – The Problem with Feature-Centric Thinking
40:44 – Opening Stakeholder Minds Without Judgement
49:16 – What Deng Xiaoping Taught Jo About Leadership
58:33 – East Meets West: Bridging Philosophical Differences
1:06:18 – Make Meaningful Work and the Power of Micro-Interactions
1:13:57 – Bringing Human Skills to Kids Through Sparkle Studio
1:22:42 – The Contribution We Owe the World
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Who is Josephine Wong?
Josephine Wong is a co-founder and principal at Apogee, a pioneering user experience consultancy founded in 1998 with a vision to bring human-centred design to Hong Kong and the wider region. Over the past 25 years, Apogee has played a significant role in advancing UX across Asia.
She’s also the co-founder of Make Meaningful Work, a studio and learning platform helping people unlock their potential by focusing on meaningful work in environments where they can learn, improve, and thrive together.
If that wasn’t enough, Jo is also the co-founder of UX Hong Kong, an annual learning event that brings together passionate practitioners from across product and service design to explore and celebrate exceptional experience creation.
A committed and influential contributor to our field, Jo has shared her expertise on global platforms including Beat Camp, We Can Do Better, the Reorient podcast, and UXpod.
Her work is deeply informed by her multicultural upbringing and global perspective, allowing her to bridge cultural nuance and inspire designers and researchers around the world.
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Find Josephine here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephine-wong-6801922/
X: https://x.com/igiwong
Apogee: https://www.apogeehk.com/
Make Meaningful Work: https://www.makemeaningfulwork.com/
UX Hong Kong: https://uxhongkong.com/
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May 13, 2025 • 1h 18min
Roberta Dombrowski – Redefining Leadership and Thriving at Work
Roberta Dombrowski invites us to rethink success, tune into our intuition, and lead with intention —sharing how mindfulness, healing, and self-compassion can transform the way we work and live.
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Episode chapters
00:00 – Welcome and Introduction
04:25 – Being a Transracial Adoptee and Finding Voice
14:11 – The Restless Career Journey and Job-Hopping
22:54 – Lessons from Anxiety, Burnout, and Slowing Down
32:25 – Mindfulness, Somatic Work, and Coaching Practice
42:46 – The Challenges Facing UX Researchers Today
50:42 – Systemic vs Individual Burnout
58:10 – How to Navigate Red Flags in Hiring
1:06:01 – The Role of Intuition and Inner Wisdom
1:15:51 – Rediscovering Fun and Joy at Work
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Who is Roberta Dombrowski?
Roberta Dombrowski is a certified leadership coach and experience strategist, dedicated to transforming the way people live, learn, and work.
She is the founder of Learn Mindfully, a coaching and training company she launched in 2022. Since then, Roberta has supported hundreds of leaders from companies such as Adobe, Instacart, ServiceNow, Zapier, and Zoom.
Previously, Roberta was a Research Partner at Maze, where she helped clients maximize the platform’s potential. Before that, she was VP of User Research at User Interviews, where she built and scaled the research function while tackling the meta-challenge of researching researchers.
Roberta is also the author of Consciously Crafting Your Career Path, a self-reflection and career planning workbook designed to help people shape fulfilling and intentional careers. Her insights have been featured on podcasts like Lead the People and BLOC, and at events such as Rosenfeld Media’s Advancing Research conference.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertadombrowski/
Company website: https://learnmindfully.co/
Personal website: https://robertalearns.com/
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Apr 29, 2025 • 49min
Gloria Osardu - Slowing Down to See the System
Gloria Osardu urges researchers to slow down, understand the business, and partner with intention—sharing why empathy, alignment, and asking the right questions are the foundation for research that matters.
Highlights include:
05:02 – How did your parents shape your worldview and curiosity?
15:22 – Why is success as a research leader about facilitating others?
24:26 – What does “understanding the business” really mean?
30:43 – What does “skin in the game” mean for stakeholders?
45:24 – How has embracing slowness changed your approach to leadership?
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Who is Gloria Osardu?
Gloria is a Senior Director and Global Head of UX Research, Brand, and Consumer Insights at Yahoo!, where she leads initiatives to deepen Yahoo’s understanding of consumer behaviour, aligning the company’s brand, product, and marketing strategies with these insights.
Before joining Yahoo!, Gloria was Senior Director and Head of UX Research and Insights at Gusto, where she built and led Gusto’s Global Product Experience Research Team, overseeing both research and research operations professionals.
She has also held senior research roles at Amazon Web Services, where she led UX Research Operations and Programs, and at Capital One, where she headed UX Research for their Enterprise AI and ML Platforms.
With extensive commercial experience in customer insights and analytics, Gloria also brings an impressive academic background, holding a PhD in Human-Computer Interaction, a Master of Science in Applied Health Informatics, and a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science.
A committed contributor to our field, Gloria is a long-standing mentor with the Computing Research Association and has been featured in User Weekly, as well as on podcasts like Black Stories and Saving UX.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloriaosardu/
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Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 12min
Esther Ahn - Designing for Scale and Building Culture
Esther Ahn reflects on the twists and turns of her creative journey, shares how critique can unlock better design without breaking spirits, and reveals why embracing the oops is essential for building resilient teams and products.
Highlights include:
12:13 – How do you make sense of your career’s twists and turns?
28:52 – What does a healthy culture of critique look like?
35:24 – What works best when presenting design work to executives?
42:19 – Where is the most tension between business goals and user needs?
01:06:36 – How is the children’s book Beautiful Oops! relevant to your career?
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Who is Esther Ahn?
Esther is the Director of User Experience for YouTube TV and Primetime Channels on YouTube—a role in which she brings deep expertise in human-centered design and research to enhance the viewing experience across platforms and at scale.
Throughout her career, Esther has pioneered new participatory design methods and conducted global research across the US, Asia, Africa, and Australia.
Before YouTube, she was Director of Digital Health UX at Stanford Health Care and a Creative Director at the world-renowned innovation firm Frog Design.
She’s also worked at two other giants of design—IDEO and Smart Design—where she shaped experiences through multidisciplinary practice.
Esther holds a BA in Architecture from UC Berkeley and a Master’s in Interaction Design from Carnegie Mellon University.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherahn/
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Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 16min
Meryl Evans - Progress Over Perfection in Accessibility
Meryl Evans shares why accessibility is everyone’s responsibility, how captions can create connection—not just convenience—and why progress over perfection is the mindset that drives lasting inclusion.
Highlights include:
11:30 – How did publishing your first video in 2018 change everything?
20:28 – Why progress over perfection is essential in accessibility
29:06 – How do you carry the responsibility of being an advocate?
49:34 – What does it take to build a culture of accessibility?
59:15 – Why equitable design matters for dignity and inclusion
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Who is Meryl Evans?
Meryl is a Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies (CPACC), a sought-after speaker, trainer, and accessibility marketing consultant who has spent over two decades championing inclusive digital experiences.
Named one of LinkedIn’s Top 12 Voices for Accessibility Advocacy, Meryl’s work has been recognised by organisations such as the North Texas Disability Chamber and featured in The Wall Street Journal, MarketingProfs, and The Dallas Morning News.
She’s the author of The Brilliant Outlook Pocketbook and co-author of Adapting to Web Standards: CSS and Ajax for Big Sites, and her speaking credits include TEDx, SXSW, and the American Marketing Association.
Beyond her consulting and speaking, Meryl is a passionate volunteer, contributing to the W3C’s Immersive Captions community group and XR Access, helping ensure emerging technologies are accessible to everyone.
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Find Meryl here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meryl/
Website: https://meryl.net/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/merylkevans/videos
X: https://x.com/merylkevans
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Mar 18, 2025 • 1h 12min
Tammy Everts - How Web Performance Shapes UX
Tammy Everts unpacks why web performance is a fundamental UX issue, how slow websites affect user perceptions and business outcomes, and why designers need to take ownership of performance alongside developers.
Highlights include:
02:14 - How did you come to own uber.com?
15:27 - What does performance have to do with UX?
28:54 - How do you identify the best executive champion for performance?
35:24 - Is measuring the business impact of performance as easy as it sounds?
46:37 - Why aren’t designers more involved in performance?
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Who is Tammy Everts?
Tammy is the Chief Experience Officer at SpeedCurve—a platform that enables organisations to unlock the full potential of their web performance.
In her role, Tammy champions the connection between site speed, user experience, and business success, working closely with customers to deepen their understanding of how people use with their websites.
Tammy's career journey also includes senior UX roles at Soasta and Radware, and over two decades of pioneering research involving EEG headsets, facial action coding, and advanced machine learning.
She is the author of “Time is Money: The Business Value of Web Performance” and a sought-after speaker, having shared her expertise at prominent events like Chrome Dev Summit, Smashing Conference, and Beyond Tellerand.
Tammy also co-chairs the annual performance.now() conference in Amsterdam and co-curates WPO Stats, a valuable resource of web performance case studies.
Find Tammy here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammyeverts/
Website: https://tammyeverts.wordpress.com/
Mastodon: https://webperf.social/@tammy
X: https://x.com/tameverts
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