The Social-Engineer Podcast

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Jason Rebholz. Jason is the Chief Information Security Officer at Corvus Insurance. He has over a decade of experience performing forensic investigations into sophisticated cyber attacks and helping organizations build secure and resilient environments. As Corvus’s CISO, Jason leverages his incident response, security, and infrastructure expertise to drive security strategy and reduce the risk of security threats internally at Corvus and for Corvus's policyholders. Prior to joining Corvus, Jason held leadership roles at Mandiant, The Crypsis Group, Gigamon, and MOXFIVE [June 19, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 01:03 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                05:04 - Jason Rebholz Intro 05:47 - How did you get to where you are? 11:32 - Eating the Elephant 12:53 - The Gospel of Ryan 15:39 - Back to Basics 16:49 - Finding the Right Alleyway 20:32 - You're Allowed to Change Your Mind 23:14 - The Right Tools for the Job 24:58 - Maximizing ROI 25:54 - The City of No 27:11 - What's Bad MFA? 29:41 - 3-2-1...1 32:52 - Quality Fishing 36:32 - Holistic Security Program 39:07 - Realistic Expectations 41:31 - Mentors -          Steve Surdu 42:58 - Book Recommendations -          Atomic Habits – James Clear 45:16 - Wrap Up -          LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jrebholz/ -          Youtube: www.youtube.com/@teachmecyber -          Website: www.corvusinsurance.com/ 46:07 - Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Dr. David Rawaf. Dr. Rawaf is a surgeon, researcher, technologist, innovator and policy developer. As well as studying and working in both UK and US, David is involved with Imperial College WHO Collaborating Centre (for Public Health Education & Training), as well as medical writing, research and hosting conferences. David has a role as Surgical Skill Faculty and is Centre Accredited by the Royal College of Surgeons. In addition, he is an abstract and content reviewer for a number of institutions including the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation amongst a number of other scientific societies. In addition, David is the Clinical Excellence Lead for Inovus Medical, the world-leaders in high-fidelity medical and surgical simulation, and beyond this is also heavily involved in medical device & software consulting, including validation, accreditation and approval through bodies such as the FDA. David is a Co-Executive Director for the International Organization for Reconstruction for war torn-countries, and a Director for QCapital Ventures specializing in tailored start-up advice including investment acquisition, financial & business-strategy and scale up methods. [June 12, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:34 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                03:18 - Dr. David Rawaf Intro 05:01 - From Studies to Startups 07:22 - Practice Makes Perfect 09:16 - How do you "simulate" surgery? 11:48 - Simulation Benefits 14:47 - Redefining Fidelity 19:16 - Augmented Over Virtual 20:30 - Minority Report 23:08 - Google Glass 2.0 25:48 - Depressing Desire 29:39 - Stop Thinking! 35:33 - The Value of Support 41:17 – Mentors -          Professor Adrian Wilson -          Professor Fares Haddad -          Father -          Late Uncle 46:33 - Book Recommendations -          The Genius Zone - Gay Hendricks -          The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership - Jim Dethmer, Kaley Klemp & Diana Chapman 50:02 - Find Dr. Rawaf online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/davidrawaf/ -          Twitter: twitter.com/DavidRawaf -          David’s Paper: Effect of Suppressing Thoughts of Desire to Smoke on Ratings of Desire to Smoke and Tobacco Withdrawal Symptoms 50:51 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: False Memories. Although memory processes and systems usually operate reliably, they are sometimes prone to distortions and illusions. Today’s discussion will examine how and why this happens. [June 5, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:02 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 07:43 - The Topic of the Day: False Memories 08:11 - Defining Our Memories 10:17 - Challenging Your Reality 11:48 - Remember the Good Times 13:01 - The Exception 15:07 - Unintentional Ego Inflation 17:27 - Putting it in Context 18:46 - The Dangers of Distorting Memories 23:19 - Not-So-Total Recall 25:40 - Repression vs Suppression 28:35 - Eyewitness Error 32:10 - Shameless Plug: Ep. 134 -          Altered Memories and Alternate Realities with Dr. Elizabeth Loftus 34:14 - Emotional Influence 37:22 - How Accurate Are You??? 39:56 - Emotional Defense 44:35 - Belief System 47:48 - Don't Be Certain (Because You're Not) 49:31 - Confirmation Bias 52:39 - Simple Does Not Equal Easy 54:08 - Shades of Grey 56:38 - Wrap Up 56:58 - Next Month: Deception Detection 57:45 - Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online: -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy   References: Damiano, C., & Walther, D. B. (2019). Distinct roles of eye movements during memory encoding and retrieval. Cognition, 184, 119-129. Robins, S. K. (2019). Confabulation and constructive memory. Synthese, 196, 2135-2151. Schacter, D. L. (2022). Constructive memory: past and future. Dialogues in clinical neuroscience. Murphy, G., Loftus, E. F., Grady, R. H., Levine, L. J., & Greene, C. M. (2019). False memories for fake news during Ireland’s abortion referendum. Psychological science, 30(10), 1449-1459. Sedikides, C., & Skowronski, J. J. (2020). In human memory, good can be stronger than bad. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 29(1), 86-91. Otgaar, H., Howe, M. L., & Patihis, L. (2022). What science tells us about false and repressed memories. Memory, 30(1), 16-21. Loftus, E. F. (1993). The reality of repressed memories. American psychologist, 48(5), 518. Anderson, M. C., & Hulbert, J. C. (2021). Active forgetting: Adaptation of memory by prefrontal control. Annual review of psychology, 72, 1-36. Loftus, E. F., & Pickrell, J. E. (1995). The formation of false memories. Psychiatric annals, 25(12), 720-725. Otgaar, H., Candel, I., Merckelbach, H., & Wade, K. A. (2009). Abducted by a UFO: Prevalence information affects young children's false memories for an implausible event. Applied Cognitive Psychology: The Official Journal of the Society for Applied Research in Memory and Cognition, 23(1), 115-125. Otgaar, H., Candel, I., Scoboria, A., & Merckelbach, H. (2010). Script knowledge enhances the development of children’s false memories. Acta Psychologica, 133(1), 57-63.

(Original Air Date: 01/10/2022)   This month Chris Hadnagy is joined by the fascinating Amy Herman. Amy is a lawyer and an art historian who uses works of art to sharpen observation, analysis, and communication skills. She developed her Art of Perception seminar in 2000 and since then has worked with the New York City Police Department, the FBI, Department of Defense, Fortune 500 companies and more. She is also a TED speaker and an author of 2 books. Her latest book, “Fixed: How to Perfect the Fine Art of Problem-Solving was just released in December of 2021.   00:00 – Intro -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ -          Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 02:39 - Amy Herman Intro 04:17 - Tell us how you got to where you are today 07:12 - How did you get to the conclusion where two different people from the same class have different needs? 10:00 - Is there an equation or secret about how an everyday person can use that skill? 13:33 - Amy's new book, “Fixed” (put full title here) 15:00 - How did you come up with the concept of this book? 18:00 - What is the hope you want for people who read this? 19:52 - How has the past 18 months changed the concepts of visual intelligence? 25:55 - Are you going to keep virtual training? 29:50 - Being more empathetic and finding common ground 32:31 - Can you explain “pertinent negative” from your book? 35:34 - Tell the story about your book cover 40:36 - Besides yours what are some of your favorite books? -          (Amy’s book) Fixed.: How To Perfect The Fine Art of Problem Solving -          (Amy’s book) Visual Intelligence: Sharpen Your Perception, Change Your Life -          The Boys In The Boat – Nine Americans and Their Quest for the Gold - by Daniel James Brown 43:27 - Who is your greatest mentor? -          Angela Merkel 45:15 - Guest Wrap Up -          Website:  www.artfulperception.com -          Twitter:  www.twitter.com/AmyhermanAOP -          Instagram: @AmyHermanAOP

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [May 22, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Patrick Laverty Intro 00:58 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 08:58 - Todays Topic: Human Hacking Book Discussion 13:52 - From "Tech" to "Storytelling" 18:51 - Experience Not Required 22:02 - The Importance of Knowing Yourself 25:43 - A Foundation in Communication 29:04 - Principles of Influence 31:32 - Leveling the Playing Field 35:35 - Elicitation Breakdown 40:22 - Understanding the Baseline 44:31 - Dress for the Job (You're Pretending to Have) 48:00 - The Forgotten Resources 49:39 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy -          Patrick Laverty -          Twitter: @plaverty9 -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by John Young. Like many security experts, John started out on the wrong side of the law by manipulating the AT&T phone system as a teenage phone phreak in New York City before he was scared straight by the FBI. His career started four decades ago in 1982, and by 1987 Young became the network director at McDonnell Douglas's $41.8 billion C-17 program. He eventually retired from IBM after a 30-year career in the corporate cyberwar trenches to launch his own company, CyberDef.   Regarded as one of America's top corporate cybersecurity experts and thought leaders, Young's published dozens of articles, appeared on countless podcasts, and is designing a video course for people based on his book so that they can thrive in cybersecurity.   [May 15, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:53 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:51 - John Young Intro 06:41 - Scared Straight 15:38 - Imposter Syndrome 16:53 - Don't Quit Your Day Job! 22:54 - Integration is Key 28:05 - The Effect of AI on Cyber Security 32:32 - Tips to Stay Ahead 38:17 - Policies, Processes and Procedures 38:37 - Book Recommendations: -          Don't Hack! – John Young 43:22 - Find John Young Online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-young-4aa083151/ -          Website: https://cyberdef.tv 43:55 - Learn to Thrive 46:42 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Tommy Honton. Tommy is a writer and experienced designer specializing in the intersection of interactivity and narrative. He has produced work around the world for audiences of all sizes and regularly lectures about design. He is also the co-creator of the award-winning escape room Stash House. [May 8, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:22 – Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                03:40 - Tommy Honton Intro                                                       04:25 - How did Escape Rooms become your career?                                       06:19 - The Hero of Your Journey                                                              08:42 - Crafting a Non-Linear Narrative                                                  15:47 - Go with the Flow                                                               19:33 - More than Words                                                             24:45 - I'm Not Just the President...                                                         29:06 - Some Stranger Things                                                      34:34 - The Florida Market and Beyond                                                  36:22 - Who would you consider your greatest mentors? -          Marty Parker -          Sean Stewart 39:00 - Book Recommendations -          Sex at Dawn - Christopher Ryan & Cacilda Jethá -          Sapiens - Yuval Noah Harari -          Blood, Seat, and Pixels - Jason Schreier -          Press Reset - Jason Schreier                         40:56 - MORTY: The Escape Room App -          Site: Morty                                                         42:41 - Find Tommy online -          Website: tommyhonton.com 43:25 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Conspiracy theories. They will talk about what makes a Conspiracy Theory and why we believe them. [May 1, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 00:59 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:45 - The Topic of the Day: The TRUTH Behind Conspiracy Theories 05:54 - What is a Conspiracy Theory? 07:39 - What's the harm? 10:20 - WHY??? 11:17 - Pattern Seekers 13:15 - Cognitive Closure 17:04 - The Role of Critical Thinking 19:18 - An Existential Element 20:41 - Don't Forget the Lizards! 22:35 - What about Bigfoot? 24:30 - Escapism 30:15 - Reading the Emotions 32:29 - Social Motive 33:31 - Emotions vs Critical Thinking 36:42 - Prove Me Wrong! 39:09 - The Takeaway: Empathy 40:57 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online: -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy   References: Abalakina-Paap, M., Stephan, W. G., Craig, T., & Gregory, L. (1999). Beliefs in conspiracies. Political Psychology, 20, 637–647. Adams, G., O’Brien, L. T., & Nelson, J. C. (2006). Perceptions of racism in Hurricane Katrina: A liberation psychology analysis. Analyses of Social Issues and Public Policy, 6, 215–235. Bilewicz, M., Winiewski, M., Kofta, M., & Wójcik, A. (2013). Harmful ideas: The structure and consequences of antiSemitic beliefs in Poland. Political Psychology, 34, 821–839. Bost, P. R., & Prunier, S. G. (2013). Rationality in conspiracy beliefs: The role of perceived motive. Psychological Reports, 113, 118–128 Crocker, J., Luhtanen, R., Broadnax, S., & Blaine, B. E. (1999). Belief in U.S. government conspiracies against Blacks among Black and White college students: Powerlessness or system blame? Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 25, 941–953. Dieguez, S., Wagner-Egger, P., & Gauvrit, N. (2015). Nothing happens by accident, or does it? A low prior for randomness does not explain belief in conspiracy theories. Psychological Science, 26, 1762–1770. Dieguez, S., Wagner-Egger, P., & Gauvrit, N. (2015). Nothing happens by accident, or does it? A low prior for randomness does not explain belief in conspiracy theories. Psychological Science, 26(11), 1762–1770. https://doi. org/10.1177/0956797615598740 DiFonzo, N., Bordia, P., & Rosnow, R. L. (1994). Reining in rumors. Organizational Dynamics, 23(1), 47–62. https://doi. org/10.1016/0090-2616(94)90087-6 Douglas, K. M., & Leite, A. C. (2017). Suspicion in the workplace: Organizational conspiracy theories and workrelated outcomes. British Journal of Psychology, 108, 486–506. Douglas, K. M., & Sutton, R. M. (2008). The hidden impact of conspiracy theories: Perceived and actual impact of theories surrounding the death of Princess Diana. Journal of Social Psychology, 148, 210–221. Douglas, K. M., Sutton, R. M., & Cichocka, A. (2017). The psychology of conspiracy theories. 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Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [April 24, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:25 - Patrick Laverty Intro 00:59 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 05:34 - Scary Little Human 07:50 - Today's Topic: The SE Framework 09:13 - Origin Story 14:15 - Social Engineering: A Complete Definition 18:03 - A Tool for Communication 19:20 - Influence is NOT Manipulation 24:15 - Code of Ethics 27:38 - Intent is Key 33:36 - Human Buffer Overflow 41:56 - Education for Everyone 43:51 - Updating When Necessary 45:14 - Next Month: Book Club 45:59 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy -          Patrick Laverty -          Twitter: @plaverty9 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Dr. Abbie Maroño. Dr. Maroño is now the Director of Education at Social-Engineer, LLC, an active member of internationally recognized research groups, and an expert consultant and advisor.  Today, Chris, Ryan and Abbie will discuss the 2023 State of Vishing Report. [April 17, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:23 - Ryan Intro 01:20 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                04:42 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 06:55 - Topic of the Day: 2023 State of Vishing Report                                     08:25 - Discussing the Data Set                                                   10:47 - Following the Trends                                                       12:47 - Limitation of Data                                                             13:28 - Negatives in Positives?                                                   15:49 - Vishing: A Definition                                                        18:10 - Understanding Vulnerabilities                                                     19:10 - Got the Time                                                       21:08 - Why Time of Day Matters                                                              26:18 - Make it Personal                                                               28:05 - Ethics are Vital!                                                  31:34 - The Academic Dilemma                                                  35:46 - Know Your Goal                                                 37:04 - Vishing Trends                                                   39:28 - Increased Understanding                                                              41:34 - Creating Vulnerability                                                     45:18 - Hope through Education                                                48:03 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org